Got screamed at by a driver at 5:00 AM
03-31-19, 01:02 PM
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03-31-19, 01:11 PM
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So ... whatever. Not many people like to change their minds ... but of course, changing one's mind can also be described as "learning."
03-31-19, 01:33 PM
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I laid out the costs for her if she had managed to run down and kill my wife. (And before you go down that road, my education and profession make me uniquely qualified to come up with those numbers, and to do it quickly in my head. And I don't give a s**t if you believe that or not.) And that should scare her, even if she doesn't care much about the other consequences of running down a human being and leaving my child without a mother.
FWIW, this is not idle chatter.
FWIW, this is not idle chatter.
03-31-19, 01:36 PM
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But that's provided you can get a word in edgewise. You can't reason with a screaming lunatic.
Last resort of course. In Cally one is required to escape the situation if one can. However, if assault is imminent, I am justified to protect myself in public. Pepper gel really is a good deterrent and is less violent than fisticuffs.
Avoidance is the first choice but occasionally that is not enough.
Avoidance is the first choice but occasionally that is not enough.
In Florida its Stand Your Ground. Meaning you're not required to run away. Exactly. After 18 Seasons something has to have rubbed off.
03-31-19, 03:29 PM
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Well, we've dragged this pretty far off-course, so I'll respond to this and then be done.
There was no yelling, no cursing, no threatening. I laid out the costs for her if she had managed to run down and kill my wife. (And before you go down that road, my education and profession make me uniquely qualified to come up with those numbers, and to do it quickly in my head. And I don't give a s**t if you believe that or not.) And that should scare her, even if she doesn't care much about the other consequences of running down a human being and leaving my child without a mother.
FWIW, this is not idle chatter. My breadwinner parent was killed by a negligent commercial driver (not while biking, mind you). The resulting lawsuit and settlement pretty much cleaned out that person's insurance and put him out of business, and it was fair compensation for my other parent, who had lost her source of income. That's just the law.
These are things that drivers should think about. Hell, I drive a car, and I think about these things when I am tempted to speed, to pass another car on a dangerous road, and yes, go around cyclists.
Again, you can deal with such motorists as you wish. I usually do just brush it off. But I'm not telling you what to do. Not sure why a couple people here are so concerned with what I choose to do.
There was no yelling, no cursing, no threatening. I laid out the costs for her if she had managed to run down and kill my wife. (And before you go down that road, my education and profession make me uniquely qualified to come up with those numbers, and to do it quickly in my head. And I don't give a s**t if you believe that or not.) And that should scare her, even if she doesn't care much about the other consequences of running down a human being and leaving my child without a mother.
FWIW, this is not idle chatter. My breadwinner parent was killed by a negligent commercial driver (not while biking, mind you). The resulting lawsuit and settlement pretty much cleaned out that person's insurance and put him out of business, and it was fair compensation for my other parent, who had lost her source of income. That's just the law.
These are things that drivers should think about. Hell, I drive a car, and I think about these things when I am tempted to speed, to pass another car on a dangerous road, and yes, go around cyclists.
Again, you can deal with such motorists as you wish. I usually do just brush it off. But I'm not telling you what to do. Not sure why a couple people here are so concerned with what I choose to do.
03-31-19, 08:25 PM
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No, I'm saying it should never have gotten to the point of an interaction. The lady was trying to ditch you, yet you still followed her to her home and kept ringing the doorbell until somebody answered. And you're trying to portray that as an appropriate course of action because you were able to "set her straight".
04-01-19, 06:39 AM
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Oh, Jesus! Can you guys leave the guy alone already?
This is hardly even on the topic.
Was he bold? Yes. For good reason.
Did it work out? Yes.
So where's the problem?
What world do you guys live in?
Be a human person. You might be surprised by the results.
This is hardly even on the topic.
Was he bold? Yes. For good reason.
Did it work out? Yes.
So where's the problem?
What world do you guys live in?
Be a human person. You might be surprised by the results.
04-01-19, 09:23 AM
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04-01-19, 09:32 AM
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I guess I have a great place to ride never had a problem with motorists. Then again everyone is armed 
and you so it is best to be respectful and courteous.
and you so it is best to be respectful and courteous. 
04-01-19, 09:39 AM
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But of course your ranting about the costs of killing your wife to the woman, and the readers of this thread is just so much idle chatter since there was no collision or injury involved, nor any evidence of any attempt to "manage to run down" your wife or anybody else.
04-01-19, 11:17 AM
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I was stopped at a light at 5:00 AM this morning on a very well lit street when a driver rolled down his window to inform me that I was a "f...ing" moron for riding my bike in the street. Mind you, I was standing in the bike lane. He shouted that I should be riding on the sidewalk. As he drove away he yelled something about understanding hit and run drivers. A bit unsettling. Hopefully our paths don't cross again.
04-01-19, 12:10 PM
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Crazy bullying drivers
There's no mental health requirements for a driver's license, not to mention that a wack job driver even has a license. It never pays to engage these idiots. I chalk 99% of this behavior to plain bullying, just like in 8th grade. They never grew up.
God only knows what drug cocktail they may be on. Trying to make rational sense of what is coming out of their mouth is meaningless. Ignore and survive.
God only knows what drug cocktail they may be on. Trying to make rational sense of what is coming out of their mouth is meaningless. Ignore and survive.
04-01-19, 01:15 PM
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04-01-19, 01:29 PM
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04-01-19, 02:36 PM
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I once had a woman ignore my hand signal for turning into her lane at the beginning of a bridge in town. She totally ignored it and then when I caught up and passed her she moved her window down and started swearing at me. I was traveling to fast to hear her but going by the volume she was obviously enjoying the mooring of the "tomato boat".
It all happened so fast that I did not have the time to take her license.
It all happened so fast that I did not have the time to take her license.
04-01-19, 03:26 PM
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Opposite action
I really don't like riding in the street. You'll find me on the sidewalk or at the curb facing traffic. That way they have to see me and I can see them, I hate traffic coming up behind me, no escape if you don't see them. One instance where I was riding on the side walk on a very congested street, when I came to an intersection and attempted to cross, was almost run over by a driver looking the other way. There comment was I should be in the street, not on the sidewalk. MY return comment was that I ride on the sidewalk to avoid idiots like you and rode off. Works both ways I guess.
04-01-19, 03:40 PM
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Exactly!
That's exactly what I do. I have my phone mounted on my handlebars. If I have an issue with some one I take a picture, then call the police. Let them deal with them.
04-01-19, 04:03 PM
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May I hope you do not ride in NM New Mexico?
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Some people are like a Slinky ... not really good for anything, but you still can't help but smile when you shove them down the stairs.
Some people are like a Slinky ... not really good for anything, but you still can't help but smile when you shove them down the stairs.
04-01-19, 04:33 PM
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I feel so weird ... I am not a cyclist, apparently.
I get on my bike, i ride my bike. I get back home, I get off my bike.
I enjoy riding.
Sometimes drivers are jerks. Sometimes other cyclists are jerks, like @mjd420nova, who is going to salmon and try to force me out into traffic so he feels safe. In all cases I deal with it, I put it in the past where it already is, and i keep on enjoying my ride.
Obviously I am doing something Way wrong ... i don't see how i could ever be a BF-style rider. I just don't generate enough drama.
it seems so simple to me.
I get on my bike, i ride my bike. I get back home, I get off my bike.
I enjoy riding.
Sometimes drivers are jerks. Sometimes other cyclists are jerks, like @mjd420nova, who is going to salmon and try to force me out into traffic so he feels safe. In all cases I deal with it, I put it in the past where it already is, and i keep on enjoying my ride.
Obviously I am doing something Way wrong ... i don't see how i could ever be a BF-style rider. I just don't generate enough drama.
it seems so simple to me.
04-01-19, 04:54 PM
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I really don't like riding in the street. You'll find me on the sidewalk or at the curb facing traffic. That way they have to see me and I can see them, I hate traffic coming up behind me, no escape if you don't see them. One instance where I was riding on the side walk on a very congested street, when I came to an intersection and attempted to cross, was almost run over by a driver looking the other way. There comment was I should be in the street, not on the sidewalk. MY return comment was that I ride on the sidewalk to avoid idiots like you and rode off. Works both ways I guess.
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04-01-19, 06:18 PM
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We've all had close calls on both sides of the handlebars. There are no curbs or sidewalks in 85% of the area and seldom a bike lane unless it's one of two major roads and then only at the cross road intersection. I try to mostly ride a creekside trail that has asphalt and a yellow line in the center, which is more than I see on many roads here. I watch for those who don't see me, and avoid placing myself in a position where I can be hit. If I have to hit the ditch to avoid a distracted driver on the shoulder or just slow my pace to adjust my closest point of approach. I look for the people who pull out of driveways and intersections without looking both directions. It could be a wheelchair, a walker or stroller or just a pedestrian. I will not cross in front of anyone if they don't look in my direction, I'll stop right where they can see me, if they look.
04-01-19, 07:07 PM
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I really don't like riding in the street. You'll find me on the sidewalk or at the curb facing traffic. That way they have to see me and I can see them, I hate traffic coming up behind me, no escape if you don't see them. One instance where I was riding on the side walk on a very congested street, when I came to an intersection and attempted to cross, was almost run over by a driver looking the other way. There comment was I should be in the street, not on the sidewalk. MY return comment was that I ride on the sidewalk to avoid idiots like you and rode off. Works both ways I guess.