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Old 04-21-19, 01:16 PM
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People taking their issues out on cyclists

Nice day to bring the bike out after winter storage. Pulled into a plaza parking lot which was 99% empty to drink some water. An old lady in a car pulls right up to me, "Get the F out of my way, you da__ ppl with your bikes." I moved anyway and she drives off. Then I realized the problem. She wanted to make a u-turn. Of course 200 empty spots wasn't enough room for her. I was taking up 2 feet of space alongside the curb.
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People seem to sense when you haven't been on a bike for a while, notice your unsteadiness, and then choose that moment to lash out. Such cowardly creatures, humans can be, when they see someone they think they can push around without any chance of themselves being harmed.

In her defense though, she probably feels a lot like I do when I see people out in the road walking, jogging, or like this guy, in a power chair, WHEN THERE'S A PERFECTLY GOOD SIDEWALK A FOOT AWAY.

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Old 04-21-19, 02:41 PM
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I'm stopped leaning on a concrete curb lining the grass at the end of the parking lot. There's nothing open today, Easter. Maybe she pissed off because she pulled into the plaza and the liquor store and beer store are closed.

I don't see anything wrong with that guy on the electric wheelchair. If he wore a helmet, he could always tell the officer .. Sorry ... I thought I took my bike out.

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Old 04-21-19, 02:53 PM
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There's just nasty miserable people out there. Just be glad they are not in your family and move on.
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Old 04-21-19, 03:08 PM
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A cyclists is an easy target for somebody who is encased in 3000 pounds of steel.
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Old 04-21-19, 03:13 PM
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Originally Posted by oldnslow2 View Post
There's just nasty miserable people out there. Just be glad they are not in your family and move on.
You'd hope that would be always the case. .. ...

Some relatives might deliberty cause some sort of inconvenience to another relative when they spot that other person out on their cycle riding about.
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Old 04-21-19, 03:13 PM
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Originally Posted by b88 View Post
I'm stopped leaning on a concrete curb lining the grass at the end of the parking lot. There's nothing open today, Easter. Maybe she pissed off because she pulled into the plaza and the liquor store and beer store are closed.

I don't see anything wrong with that guy on the electric wheelchair. If he wore a helmet, he could always tell the officer .. Sorry ... I thought I took my bike out.
Do you live in Ontario?
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Old 04-21-19, 03:17 PM
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I wouldn't have moved one inch. If I were there first, then it's her problem to navigate around things that are in front of her.

If you were sitting in that same spot, while in your car, would you have moved if asked to? I'm guessing not, and I wouldn't blame you.
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Old 04-21-19, 03:22 PM
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There is sickness in the land as evidenced by the opioid epidemic, road rage incidents as well as other reasons. Under other reasons I don't think some people can learn of the 1% who can be awarded bonuses or salaries of millions, more than most of us will ever earn in a lifetime without some resentment. Furthermore there seems to be little impulse control these days. Many people behave like juveniles with little thought of consequences.
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Old 04-21-19, 05:02 PM
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I am retired and have the luxury of choosing the days I ride. I choose to avoid the automorons today and walked with my dog at the dog park.
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Old 04-21-19, 05:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Lemond1985 View Post
People seem to sense when you haven't been on a bike for a while, notice your unsteadiness, and then choose that moment to lash out. Such cowardly creatures, humans can be, when they see someone they think they can push around without any chance of themselves being harmed.

In her defense though, she probably feels a lot like I do when I see people out in the road walking, jogging, or like this guy, in a power chair, WHEN THERE'S A PERFECTLY GOOD SIDEWALK A FOOT AWAY.

A lot of the motorized chairs are actually quite a bit faster than walking pace, so the logic of putting them in the street is pretty much the same as for bicycles. He even has a rear view mirror.

He's right where he should be.
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Old 04-21-19, 05:15 PM
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I got yelled at yesterday for taking the lane-

2 or more lanes going one way, mostly no shoulder, parked cars & timed traffic lights so you can ride at least the speed of traffic.

After honking the woman rolled down her window and said "Share the road, man."

She sounded exactly like 'the dude', but without the chill.
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Old 04-21-19, 05:23 PM
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Originally Posted by livedarklions View Post
A lot of the motorized chairs are actually quite a bit faster than walking pace, so the logic of putting them in the street is pretty much the same as for bicycles. He even has a rear view mirror.

He's right where he should be.
I dunno, I would consider him a pedestrian myself. Hopefully he's not one of those militant "take the lane" vehicular power-chairing types.
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Old 04-21-19, 06:09 PM
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Originally Posted by woodcraft View Post

After honking the woman rolled down her window and said "Share the road, man."
I've learned that "share the road" means different things to cyclists and drivers. To us, it means we can all follow a set of rules that allow us to co-exist. To them, it means you should get out of their way when you're holding them up.

I wish I were kidding when I say this, but I'm not.
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Old 04-21-19, 06:11 PM
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Originally Posted by b88 View Post
Nice day to bring the bike out after winter storage. Pulled into a plaza parking lot which was 99% empty to drink some water. An old lady in a car pulls right up to me, "Get the F out of my way, you da__ ppl with your bikes." I moved anyway and she drives off. Then I realized the problem. She wanted to make a u-turn. Of course 200 empty spots wasn't enough room for her. I was taking up 2 feet of space alongside the curb.
I wouldn't have been so polite, but then again, maybe she wouldn't be old to me. As I get older I don't suffer fools as well as I used to.
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Old 04-21-19, 06:43 PM
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Originally Posted by BlazingPedals View Post
I've learned that "share the road" means different things to cyclists and drivers. To us, it means we can all follow a set of rules that allow us to co-exist. To them, it means you should get out of their way when you're holding them up.

I wish I were kidding when I say this, but I'm not.

Yeah, I think what she meant was "get on the sidewalk".

In this instance, there is no good bike route across town. The other choices are awkward and unsafe.

At least she saw me.
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Originally Posted by Lemond1985 View Post
People seem to sense when you haven't been on a bike for a while, notice your unsteadiness, and then choose that moment to lash out. Such cowardly creatures, humans can be, when they see someone they think they can push around without any chance of themselves being harmed.

In her defense though, she probably feels a lot like I do when I see people out in the road walking, jogging, or like this guy, in a power chair, WHEN THERE'S A PERFECTLY GOOD SIDEWALK A FOOT AWAY.
The motorized wheelchair belongs on the road, in my humble. Faster than walking, easier to deal with intersections and curbs.

As for jogging, lots of people do it because asphalt on the road is easier on the knees than concrete on the sidewalks.
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Old 04-21-19, 09:25 PM
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Last week monday I drove into a plaza. As I entered I could see a car up ahead blocking the way when there were lots of parking spots around. When I was right behind it, I drove around the car and parked mine. Then as I walked to where I wanted to go, I pointed at available parking spaces and told the driver to park the car instead of blocking everybody's way.
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Old 04-22-19, 05:52 AM
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The city I live has a Facebook group and now that the nice weather is starting to come I can see the same old debate starting to pop up on the board. Our city is a fairly bike friendly city and we also have over 200 miles of MUP's. People don't seem to understand the difference between a cyclist who is riding at faster speeds versus the casual bike rider going along at a 12 mph pace. I bike commute but I only average 12 -14 mph on my 7 mile route and I use primarily the MUP's because I can. MUP's have a speed limit which most road cyclist well exceed so they tend to stick to the roads. Its a nice mix for the different riding styles and needs. Every year there are people who complain about the cyclist on the roads and can't understand why they aren't using the MUP's and then there are the other people who get mad at bike riders on the MUP's and want them to off an on the roads.
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Originally Posted by chephy View Post
The motorized wheelchair belongs on the road, in my humble. Faster than walking, easier to deal with intersections and curbs.

As for jogging, lots of people do it because asphalt on the road is easier on the knees than concrete on the sidewalks.
Well heck, why don't we just rip out all the sidewalks, since apparently nobody wants to use them, for one perfectly legitimate reason or other. Maybe convert them into bike lanes?
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Old 04-22-19, 06:51 AM
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The motorized wheelchair belongs on the road, in my humble. Faster than walking, easier to deal with intersections and curbs.
Right. We don't know how long that sidewalk continues. If it ends, the transition to the street could be difficult at that point. In suburban sprawl I have seen sidewalks simply end at grassy plots with no ramps.

In large cities, people in chairs and scooters are often forced to use the street because motorists park in crosswalks, blocking curb cuts. That also creates a danger for people with strollers. It's gotten so out of hand in my 'hood that the parking authority has ramped up enforcement.
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Well heck, why don't we just rip out all the sidewalks, since apparently nobody wants to use them, for one perfectly legitimate reason or other. Maybe convert them into bike lanes?


Sidewalks absolutely suck for any motorized wheels, and the joggers are too few to be a real problem.

The gentleman in the wheelchair does not appear to be impeding you in any way. Why are you insisting he should be on a sidewalk that isn't designed well for what he's doing? Do you also think motorized scooters belong on the sidewalk? What's the difference?

Sidewalks are for walking--it's in the name.
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She probably has encountered bad cyclists before for her to lash out. Maybe she got buzzed by cyclists when she was out walking her dog on the trail! Cyclists are far from being innocent be it on the road or on the trail. Makes me wonder how many pissed off drivers are pissed off due to their encounter with past cyclists' actions. It's sorta like cause-effect reaction.
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She probably has encountered bad cyclists before for her to lash out. Maybe she got buzzed by cyclists when she was out walking her dog on the trail!
Maybe she was dropped on her head as an infant. Maybe she was sniffing fingernail polish.

I seriously don't believe it when people tell me they encounter more bad bicycling than they do bad driving. Bad driving is just so common we don't even remember the incidents.
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I slow right down on mup's when I approach people, say hi, thank those that move over for me etc. On the other hand, when approaching the couples walking two abreast in the bike lanes on my favorite road, where there is a greenway and path right beside them, I do not move over. I let them know I am not going to swerve into traffic for them. Actually only had the one encounter where the walkers did not step up unto the path as I approached. But they moved when I stopped in front of them.
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