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Old 09-30-19, 04:04 PM
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Originally Posted by KraneXL View Post

Dogs must be under control when it public. If you can't control them, keep them on private property away from the public. For the record, all dogs can be trained.And what if he was in a race?
A quick look at this tends to say it only apply's in 2 states and even those they say "unless held properly in leash" ..... so there's a whole argument in itself as to whether a flexi lead would be considered in law as "held properly in leash" or not .... now I'm not saying that's the way it should be or casting judgement on one side or the other ... just pointing out what the law seems to infer.
https://www.animallaw.info/topic/tab...dog-leash-laws

I not convinced all dogs can be trained either, or at least certainly not to be 100% reliable.

We've just taken ownership of a dog that was withdrawn from training as an assistance dog for the disabled because she was too "dog responsive". During her training she was attached to a wheel chair in a high street, heard another dog bark in the distance and was off in hot pursuit with the wheelchair still attached.

Over many years the charity have a consistent average of 1 in 4 dogs that don't make it through the training so if as you say "all dogs can be trained" they wouldn't have any that fail .... especially as the associated cost of the failures makes up an awfully high percentage of the charity's overall costs.
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The problem i find with the flexi-leash is when the dog is far ahead of the owner. The path is some 6ft wide, the dog is 15-20ft ahead. There is absolutely nothing the owner can do to stop the dog putting a clothes-line across the path. They're frantically reigning the dog in less than 1ft at a time...

Of course they apologise, but i say nothing. Their apology isn't accepted, because they do it all the time and it'll just happen to the next cyclist.
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Old 09-30-19, 07:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Witterings View Post
A quick look at this tends to say it only apply's in 2 states and even those they say "unless held properly in leash" ..... so there's a whole argument in itself as to whether a flexi lead would be considered in law as "held properly in leash" or not .... now I'm not saying that's the way it should be or casting judgement on one side or the other ... just pointing out what the law seems to infer.
https://www.animallaw.info/topic/tab...dog-leash-laws


I not convinced all dogs can be trained either, or at least certainly not to be 100% reliable.

We've just taken ownership of a dog that was withdrawn from training as an assistance dog for the disabled because she was too "dog responsive". During her training she was attached to a wheel chair in a high street, heard another dog bark in the distance and was off in hot pursuit with the wheelchair still attached.

Over many years the charity have a consistent average of 1 in 4 dogs that don't make it through the training so if as you say "all dogs can be trained" they wouldn't have any that fail .... especially as the associated cost of the failures makes up an awfully high percentage of the charity's overall costs.
The City I live in has a 6' leash law. Extendo-leashes are not legal or enforced. The users would lose in a Court Room.
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Old 10-01-19, 07:59 AM
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In general we're living in a modern age of "entitled dog owner culture". Fido is my child so I take it everywhere and they're allowed to do anything.

Dogs are amazing. People suck.

I was fine with the dog thing outside a breweries. But then a few weeks in a row a pair of dogs "introducing" each other get into a minute or two barking screaming tussle all around people's legs trying to enjoy their beers and human conversation. Not a fight, but a ton of raucous commotion.

Anytime I use a greenway running, walking, or going slow on the bike as a cut-thru.........there's a dog problem. Flexy leash, off leash, owner with headphones not paying attention, etc.........

I've had this interaction more than
"Could you leash your dog please, that could cause an incident?"
"**** you! Blah blah blah"
"Uhm, my child is riding their bike right behind me. So number one, language, and two......it's the law......and three, your dog causes an incident with my kids and I'll get a lawyer to own your ass".
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Originally Posted by burnthesheep View Post
In general we're living in a modern age of "entitled dog owner culture". Fido is my child so I take it everywhere and they're allowed to do anything.

Dogs are amazing. People suck.

I was fine with the dog thing outside a breweries. But then a few weeks in a row a pair of dogs "introducing" each other get into a minute or two barking screaming tussle all around people's legs trying to enjoy their beers and human conversation. Not a fight, but a ton of raucous commotion.

Anytime I use a greenway running, walking, or going slow on the bike as a cut-thru.........there's a dog problem. Flexy leash, off leash, owner with headphones not paying attention, etc.........

I've had this interaction more than
"Could you leash your dog please, that could cause an incident?"
"**** you! Blah blah blah"
"Uhm, my child is riding their bike right behind me. So number one, language, and two......it's the law......and three, your dog causes an incident with my kids and I'll get a lawyer to own your ass".
I have no problem with people believing that their dog is human as long as they don't sit them at the table next to me. Chairs are for people, and dogs eat on the ground.
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Old 10-01-19, 09:19 AM
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If people want their dogs to have the same rights as a person, they need to have the same responsibilities too. I say "game, on".

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Old 10-02-19, 02:24 AM
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Actually it was a woman walking her dog on a Flexi leash who had an issue with me and didn't believe that it's legal to ride bicycle on a sidewalk in La Jolla which is in the City of San Diego.



Although I don't normally ride on the sidewalk, there is one location in La Jolla where I often do this to avoid slowing down the motorists behind me. You can see that this is an uphill section of Torrey Pines Road between Coast Walk and Prospect Place with a long barricade placed over the right side of the road. According to my Garmin History my speed was 6 to 8 mph so it took me 1 minute to travel 0.12 mile on this sidewalk. Although cyclists can use the right-turn lane, this lane is not wide enough to accommodate a bicycle and a car side-by-side so that a cyclist going uphill at this speed will force the motorists who want to turn right to either follow at 6 to 8 mph or go into the next lane and cut across the solid white line back into the right-turn lane.

If I see a pedestrian coming in the opposite direction I would normally put one foot down or put my right hand on the fence and wait for them to walk by. However, on this occasion the pedestrian chose to move to an open space next to the sidewalk and waited for me to pass so I thought she was trying to be nice to me :-)

In the City of San Diego, bicycle riding is allowed on sidewalks except in business districts such as the one shown in the map below.



La Jolla Business District


Torrey Pines Road between Coast Walk and Prospect Place

San Diego County Bicycle Coalition FAQs - Can I ride on the sidewalk ?


Sometimes we just can't please everybody :-)

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Old 10-02-19, 02:55 AM
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Originally Posted by LJ Seals View Post
Actually it was a woman walking her dog on a Flexi leash who had an issue with me and didn't believe that it's legal to ride bicycle on a sidewalk in La Jolla which is in the City of San Diego.



Although I don't normally ride on the sidewalk, there is one location in La Jolla where I often do this to avoid slowing down the motorists behind me. You can see that this is an uphill section of Torrey Pines Road between Coast Walk and Prospect Place with a long barricade placed over the right side of the road. According to my Garmin History my speed was 6 to 8 mph so it took me 1 minute to travel 0.12 mile on this sidewalk. Although cyclists can use the right-turn lane, this lane is not wide enough to accommodate a bicycle and a car side-by-side so that a cyclist going uphill at this speed will force the motorists who want to turn right to either follow at 6 to 8 mph or go into the next lane and cut across the solid white line back into the right-turn lane.

If I see a pedestrian coming in the opposite direction I would normally put one foot down or put my right hand on the fence and wait for them to walk by. However, on this occasion the pedestrian chose to move to an open space next to the sidewalk and waited for me to pass so I thought she was trying to be nice to me :-)

In the City of San Diego, bicycle riding is allowed on sidewalks except in business districts such as the one shown in the map below.



La Jolla Business District


Torrey Pines Road between Coast Walk and Prospect Place

San Diego County Bicycle Coalition FAQs - Can I ride on the sidewalk ?
You can ride on any sidewalk except where its prohibited -- generally posted. Even so, sidewalks are for pedestrians, so they ALWAYS have the right of way. A cyclist must yield to a pedestrian.

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Old 10-02-19, 06:34 AM
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Originally Posted by LJ Seals View Post
Actually it was a woman walking her dog on a Flexi leash who had an issue with me and didn't believe that it's legal to ride bicycle on a sidewalk in La Jolla which is in the City of San Diego.



Although I don't normally ride on the sidewalk, there is one location in La Jolla where I often do this to avoid slowing down the motorists behind me. You can see that this is an uphill section of Torrey Pines Road between Coast Walk and Prospect Place with a long barricade placed over the right side of the road. According to my Garmin History my speed was 6 to 8 mph so it took me 1 minute to travel 0.12 mile on this sidewalk. Although cyclists can use the right-turn lane, this lane is not wide enough to accommodate a bicycle and a car side-by-side so that a cyclist going uphill at this speed will force the motorists who want to turn right to either follow at 6 to 8 mph or go into the next lane and cut across the solid white line back into the right-turn lane.

If I see a pedestrian coming in the opposite direction I would normally put one foot down or put my right hand on the fence and wait for them to walk by. However, on this occasion the pedestrian chose to move to an open space next to the sidewalk and waited for me to pass so I thought she was trying to be nice to me :-)

In the City of San Diego, bicycle riding is allowed on sidewalks except in business districts such as the one shown in the map below.



La Jolla Business District


Torrey Pines Road between Coast Walk and Prospect Place

San Diego County Bicycle Coalition FAQs - Can I ride on the sidewalk ?


Sometimes we just can't please everybody :-)

I couldn't believe JUST how mad she was .... I mean the sheer tirade of relentless abuse that spewed from her mouth ... OOOOhhh and the language she used .... despicable/

Your precious feelings must have been really hurt after being subjected to such a verbal onslaught ... did you have to go home and lie down for a while to get over it??

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Old 10-02-19, 07:07 AM
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Originally Posted by LJ Seals View Post
Actually it was a woman walking her dog on a Flexi leash who had an issue with me and didn't believe that it's legal to ride bicycle on a sidewalk in La Jolla which is in the City of San Diego.



Although I don't normally ride on the sidewalk, there is one location in La Jolla where I often do this to avoid slowing down the motorists behind me. You can see that this is an uphill section of Torrey Pines Road between Coast Walk and Prospect Place with a long barricade placed over the right side of the road. According to my Garmin History my speed was 6 to 8 mph so it took me 1 minute to travel 0.12 mile on this sidewalk. Although cyclists can use the right-turn lane, this lane is not wide enough to accommodate a bicycle and a car side-by-side so that a cyclist going uphill at this speed will force the motorists who want to turn right to either follow at 6 to 8 mph or go into the next lane and cut across the solid white line back into the right-turn lane.

If I see a pedestrian coming in the opposite direction I would normally put one foot down or put my right hand on the fence and wait for them to walk by. However, on this occasion the pedestrian chose to move to an open space next to the sidewalk and waited for me to pass so I thought she was trying to be nice to me :-)

In the City of San Diego, bicycle riding is allowed on sidewalks except in business districts such as the one shown in the map below.



La Jolla Business District


Torrey Pines Road between Coast Walk and Prospect Place

San Diego County Bicycle Coalition FAQs - Can I ride on the sidewalk ?


Sometimes we just can't please everybody :-)
I see a bike lane on the other side of those jersey barriers. What's wrong with using it? Sometimes you just can't please everybody.

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Originally Posted by LJ Seals View Post
Actually it was a woman walking her dog on a Flexi leash who had an issue with me and didn't believe that it's legal to ride bicycle on a sidewalk in La Jolla which is in the City of San Diego.

Although I don't normally ride on the sidewalk, there is one location in La Jolla where I often do this to avoid slowing down the motorists behind me.

Sometimes we just can't please everybody :-)

It may be legal, but you sure are inconveniencing pedestrians more than you would inconvenience drivers approaching a stop light to take a turn. The turn lane is very clearly marked for through bicycle traffic. That's just a dumb reason to take to the very narrow sidewalk, the cars in the turn lane are likely going to be slowing anyway even if there is no bike there.

Oh, and shame on you for posting a video of this woman just to get the last word in on an argument. She was wrong about a weird law, so what? You were wrong not to yield, which in this case would clearly require you to come to a full stop.
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Originally Posted by LJ Seals View Post

In the City of San Diego, bicycle riding is allowed on sidewalks except in business districts such as the one shown in the map below.

San Diego County Bicycle Coalition FAQs - Can I ride on the sidewalk ?
I didn't pick up on it initially it was only after Daniel4 pointed it out but there is a bicycle lane adjacent to the sidewalk with clear markings in the right hand turn lane, the link you provided clearly says "Riding on sidewalks not allowed if there is an adjacent bike lane or bike path" so it now appears that you were totally in the wrong and if anyone seemed mad or rude in the video .... I'd probably say it was you.

Where I so often complain about some cyclists attitudes it's the minority that are rude, selfish and arrogant that give the rest of us a bad name.
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I live in La Jolla and ride that section of road occasionally. I ride on the road and that section of road generally has a lot of car traffic but I have not had any problems taking the lane provided for cyclists and motorists are very accommodating.

With respect to the rules, each city and the county has their own. As stated, "riding on sidewalks not allowed if there is an adjacent bike lane or bike path: Solana Beach"

La Jolla would fall under San Diego and note that it is, Solana Beach about 12 miles north of LJ, where riding on the sidewalk is not allowed if there is a bike lane.
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Hey, dogs did not ask for any of this.
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I live in La Jolla and ride that section of road occasionally. I ride on the road and that section of road generally has a lot of car traffic but I have not had any problems taking the lane provided for cyclists and motorists are very accommodating.

With respect to the rules, each city and the county has their own. As stated, "riding on sidewalks not allowed if there is an adjacent bike lane or bike path: Solana Beach"

La Jolla would fall under San Diego and note that it is, Solana Beach about 12 miles north of LJ, where riding on the sidewalk is not allowed if there is a bike lane.
I actually do it both ways.


On this occasion there was a slower cyclist in front of me and I wasn't tired so I could go faster. If I wasn't there the motorists would still have to wait for him so I wasn't slowing anybody down.

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Originally Posted by LJ Seals View Post
I actually do it both ways.

Youtube - Cycling Torrey Pines Road between Coast Walk and Prospect Place

On this occasion I wasn't tired so I could go faster and there was a slower cyclist in front of me. If I wasn't there the motorists would have to wait for him anyway so I wasn't slowing anybody down.
I'd rather slow a car than crowd a pedestrian on a narrow sidewalk any day of the week, especially in a pulling up to the stoplight situation.

I learned a while ago that there's no way to avoid making a pedestrian nervous when they have to get around you on a narrow sidewalk. If you keep going, they think you're going to run into them, if you stop, they're not sure you aren't going to mug them. Meantime, all your slowing of the driver is going to probably amount to is a couple seconds longer before they can stop at the light.
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Originally Posted by Witterings View Post
I didn't pick up on it initially it was only after Daniel4 pointed it out but there is a bicycle lane adjacent to the sidewalk with clear markings in the right hand turn lane, the link you provided clearly says "Riding on sidewalks not allowed if there is an adjacent bike lane or bike path" so it now appears that you were totally in the wrong and if anyone seemed mad or rude in the video .... I'd probably say it was you.

Where I so often complain about some cyclists attitudes it's the minority that are rude, selfish and arrogant that give the rest of us a bad name.
It's not a dedicated bike lane. It's just a right-turn lane that may be used by bicycles.

I think the markings on the road simply say that "Bicycle may use full lane" and not "Bicycle must use this lane".



BICYCLE MAY USE FULL LANE

This photo was taken on Highway 101 in North County San Diego.

I once got two flat tires riding in the bike lane here and I've read that other people had the same problem so this could be the reason for letting cyclists use a full lane.

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... if anyone seemed mad or rude in the video .... I'd probably say it was you.

Where I so often complain about some cyclists attitudes it's the minority that are rude, selfish and arrogant that give the rest of us a bad name.
I thought she looked pretty mad even before I started talking to her.

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Originally Posted by LJ Seals View Post
It's not a dedicated bike lane. It's just a right-turn lane that may be used by bicycles.

I think the markings on the road simply say that "Bicycle may use full lane" and not "Bicycle must use this lane".



BICYCLE MAY USE FULL LANE

This photo was taken on Highway 101 in North County San Diego.

I once got two flat tires riding in the bike lane here and I've read that other people had the same problem so this could be the reason for letting cyclists use a full lane.
So what? The markings on the road and the sign tell motorists cyclists are going to be there. Are there any signs on the sidewalk to say cyclists can use it?

Why risk the safety of a road user more more vulnerable than you by riding on the sidewalk when you can be on the road?
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Originally Posted by LJ Seals View Post
I thought she looked pretty mad even before I started talking to her.
Gotta say, if I were a pedestrian on that sidewalk, I'd be pretty annoyed with an adult choosing to ride on it. I also don't understand why you think she's done anything to deserve you plastering her face on an internet forum.
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