Road Grit; Belt drive or Dry Lube?
#1
Full Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: Aug 2004
Posts: 456
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 19 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
Road Grit; Belt drive or Dry Lube?
I have been using a lubricant I made my self with PTFE powder, which works really good. But it does suck dirt and grit. Then I was reading about the new technology in chain lube. But there is only a couple of lubes that are actually dry enough to not hold onto road grit.
I AM CONSIDERING HOW TO BUILD A NEW CYCLETRUCK ALSO.
“Molten speed wax” sounds good but how long does it actually stay in the chain? “15,000km [9300 miles] longevity number quoted for Molten Speed Wax” sounds impossible. But maybe that is just the chain life not the application life.
$20 a pound and you have to use a slow cooker to apply it to the chain, sounds reasonable if it lasts even half that long. But I just can't help but think there is something wrong with it; like I may need an “ultra-sound” cleaner? To apply it several times over that 9000+ miles?
Ceramic-Speed's UFO Drip lube [12,000km or 7400 miles] claims that dirt bounces off. But all these need maintenance cleaning and re-lubing, once a week or after each ride. Being a winter commuter without a garage, I hate dealing with my bike in the dark wet cold.
[google this article: “[url=https://cyclingtips.com/2018/03/fast-chain-lube-that-saves-you-money/]Seeking the holy grail: A fast chain lube that saves you money”]
I would build a chain cover but I have a rear derailleur. So I was thinking about belt drives. A timing belt would just start jumping off the pulley if it were exposed to road grit. So what about a Gates belt drive? Does the grit come off fast enough in wet conditions??
I just put a motor on my cycletruck, so I want to know if a Gates belt can handle the ordeal? How far would they last?
I AM CONSIDERING HOW TO BUILD A NEW CYCLETRUCK ALSO.
“Molten speed wax” sounds good but how long does it actually stay in the chain? “15,000km [9300 miles] longevity number quoted for Molten Speed Wax” sounds impossible. But maybe that is just the chain life not the application life.
$20 a pound and you have to use a slow cooker to apply it to the chain, sounds reasonable if it lasts even half that long. But I just can't help but think there is something wrong with it; like I may need an “ultra-sound” cleaner? To apply it several times over that 9000+ miles?
Ceramic-Speed's UFO Drip lube [12,000km or 7400 miles] claims that dirt bounces off. But all these need maintenance cleaning and re-lubing, once a week or after each ride. Being a winter commuter without a garage, I hate dealing with my bike in the dark wet cold.
[google this article: “[url=https://cyclingtips.com/2018/03/fast-chain-lube-that-saves-you-money/]Seeking the holy grail: A fast chain lube that saves you money”]
I would build a chain cover but I have a rear derailleur. So I was thinking about belt drives. A timing belt would just start jumping off the pulley if it were exposed to road grit. So what about a Gates belt drive? Does the grit come off fast enough in wet conditions??
I just put a motor on my cycletruck, so I want to know if a Gates belt can handle the ordeal? How far would they last?
Last edited by jawnn; 05-01-19 at 01:51 PM.
#2
Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Portland, OR
Posts: 12,902
Bikes: (2) ti TiCycles, 2007 w/ triple and 2011 fixed, 1979 Peter Mooney, ~1983 Trek 420 now fixed and ~1973 Raleigh Carlton Competition gravel grinder
Mentioned: 129 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 4802 Post(s)
Liked 3,923 Times
in
2,552 Posts
If you can use a belt, you can also use an 1/8" chain. I find good $20 1/8" chains used on one set of cogs and a good chainline go for say16,000 miles ridden year 'round and in all weather in western Oregon. Oh, this is with wet lube, Finish Line MTB. I don't think there is any magic in the formula. I just see this as a non issue. (Unless immaculate looks and clean hands are important.)
You say you have a derailleur but are considering a belt drive. I'm confused. On my good bikes with derailleurs, I use TriFlo which gets very dirty to the look and touch but picks up little road grit. Wipe the chain clean, apply the TriFlo, rotate the cranks, wipe clean again. Done.
Ben
You say you have a derailleur but are considering a belt drive. I'm confused. On my good bikes with derailleurs, I use TriFlo which gets very dirty to the look and touch but picks up little road grit. Wipe the chain clean, apply the TriFlo, rotate the cranks, wipe clean again. Done.
Ben
#4
Full Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: Aug 2004
Posts: 456
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 19 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
If you can use a belt, you can also use an 1/8" chain. I find good $20 1/8" chains used on one set of cogs and a good chainline go for say16,000 miles ridden year 'round and in all weather in western Oregon. Oh, this is with wet lube, Finish Line MTB. I don't think there is any magic in the formula. I just see this as a non issue. (Unless immaculate looks and clean hands are important.)
You say you have a derailleur but are considering a belt drive. I'm confused. On my good bikes with derailleurs, I use TriFlo which gets very dirty to the look and touch but picks up little road grit. Wipe the chain clean, apply the TriFlo, rotate the cranks, wipe clean again. Done.
Ben
You say you have a derailleur but are considering a belt drive. I'm confused. On my good bikes with derailleurs, I use TriFlo which gets very dirty to the look and touch but picks up little road grit. Wipe the chain clean, apply the TriFlo, rotate the cranks, wipe clean again. Done.
Ben
Last edited by jawnn; 05-01-19 at 01:52 PM.
#6
WALSTIB
Now there's someone that takes their chainlube seriously. Let that be a lesson to us all.
#7
Cycleway town
Tyre and bumper shine (silicon oil)
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
johngwheeler
Bicycle Mechanics
29
08-30-17 08:13 AM