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Old 05-17-19, 07:48 PM
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Just one more thing to love about BD!
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Old 05-17-19, 07:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Rowan View Post
You really don't know much about the so-called development that is going on with gear items, including single up front, and 12-13 at the rear, particularly in Asia.
Predictably, you're very wrong once again. Incredibly confused even.

Not only am I very familiar with "gear items, including single up front, and 12-13 at the rear," I happen to have been riding an Asian made 1x12 for a while now.

Again, while you whine about the need for triples existing for many riders ("many" is really hyperbolic BTW) and falsely claim that there is a lack of effort by "lazy Asian manufacturers" to meet that need, triples are still being made and sold. Just see the OP's question if you are still confused by this fact.
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Old 05-17-19, 08:24 PM
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Originally Posted by goldensprocket View Post
Predictably, you're very wrong once again. Incredibly confused even.

Not only am I very familiar with "gear items, including single up front, and 12-13 at the rear," I happen to have been riding an Asian made 1x12 for a while now.

Again, while you whine about the need for triples existing for many riders ("many" is really hyperbolic BTW) and falsely claim that there is a lack of effort by "lazy Asian manufacturers" to meet that need, triples are still being made and sold. Just see the OP's question if you are still confused by this fact.
You really don't know what you are talking about, do you. You can make your claims about Asian made 1x12, but you don't tell what make it is, or where you ride. You've been a member here for a short a period, with a small number of posts, and that doesn't make you as knowledgeable as you think.
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Old 05-17-19, 08:40 PM
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Originally Posted by onyerleft View Post
I'm shocked at the number of bikes that BikesDirect offers with triple cranksets. Why so many triples?

Please don't hijack this thread with a debate about the merits of triples. If you like triples, please seek out your kindred spirits at the C&V and Touring subforums, or other websites that cater to beginners. Thank you.
Kind of a ******y way to introduce the topic, ya think?
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Old 05-17-19, 09:15 PM
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Old 05-17-19, 09:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Juggy_Gales View Post
MotoBecane OMNI STRADA This Version sells for $599 and there is another that sells for about $500
But look at the Bike and the stock specs of the Frame.. You are getting a lot for that Price..
Now.. If you Upgraded that Bike to a Shimano 105 or Ultegra Groupset gotten on a sale somewhere.. Do you
think that the bike would not substantially grow in value? They are built quite well While I don't have a picture of myself on one
I have rode an Omni Strada and it rides quite well for what you get.
Now look at this Upgraded version of the Omni Strada $1300 running Ultegra groupset.. and then Check those specs with the Giant Revolt 2. Id say it matches it quite well for significantly less money.

Though one of the Best Value Bikes I have seen to date a bike not on Bikes Direct but a small Manufacturer called Aventon Kijote Which costs about $600 and you get a lot for your money.. There is a Video of someone riding on one for $100 miles.. You Could easily upgrade that Bike to something worth in the $2000 range.
I am so confused. You said i can turn a $500-600 bike into a $2500 bike easy with a better groupset.

Your example could turn into a $2500 bike if you add $2000 in wheels, brakes, and drivetrain to the bike you linked.

What's funny is that you link the bile with an Ultegra group for $1300. So apparently a better groupset will take that $600 bike to a $1300 bike and not a $2500 bike.


Anyways, neat links.
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Old 05-17-19, 09:36 PM
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I used to love triples, until BikesDirect.
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Old 05-17-19, 10:10 PM
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OP asks why a company does something to a group of people who can only guess at the answer and doesnt want discussion why they like the idea.
Has to be in management .
The answer in business is always supply and demand sir
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Old 05-18-19, 02:38 AM
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Next up: why are there so many more bicycles than unicycles, but don't discuss the merits of two wheels vs. one.

This is kind of like an experimental form of debate: discuss the topic without addressing it.
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Old 05-18-19, 04:13 AM
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Originally Posted by bcpriess View Post
Kind of a ******y way to introduce the topic, ya think?
That's what do.
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Old 05-18-19, 06:18 AM
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Originally Posted by onyerleft View Post
...please seek out your kindred spirits at the C&V and Touring subforums, or other websites that cater to beginners.
Adolescent, self centered troll..and a bit of a knob to boot.

They stock what sells within their market niche. If you don't like what they offer..go somewhere else...in fact..be a man..break out 2 or 3 "boating units" ($1000 each) and buy a "real" bike. Next, hop on a MUP, snarl at the people on it...then post here about all the losers out there.

..get a grip..
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Old 05-18-19, 06:50 AM
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I tried to find some decent (105 or better) Shimano 3x10 shifters earlier this year and could only find NOS. Shimano does have triples but current production is all lower end 3x8 and 3x9or Tiagra 4700 series in 3x10.

They key answer to the OP is that low end components are inexpensive.


The reason I wanted 105 3x10 was for our road tandem. All other needs, I get by fine with 2x10.
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Old 05-18-19, 06:54 AM
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Given that cycling has its ups and downs in popularity, there are always a lot of people who are just beginning to get into cycling for the first time, maybe after riding as a kid and then giving up. That's the market for bikes. Everything else is specialty sales.

My guess is that the triple ring appeals to people who don't quite know what they're really going to need when the get out on their bike, and don't have the option of taking it back to the shop for an upgrade.

It's interesting to talk with people and find out which speeds they actually use. I've asked people that question, and the answers cover the gamut. One colleague, who lives near me, similar age, similar physical condition, swears that he needs all 3*n gears for the commute. I ride nearly the same route with a single speed. We both agree that one of us is crazy.
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Old 05-18-19, 08:04 AM
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In answer to your question-----------------why not********************????
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Old 05-18-19, 08:19 AM
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I guess only manly men ride fake Motobecanes with doubles. I apologize for riding bikes with triples for 30 years.
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Old 05-18-19, 08:40 AM
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Originally Posted by radroad View Post
I used to love triples, until BikesDirect.
What happen? Did BD bite you?
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Old 05-18-19, 11:15 AM
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The Rule of Three...thats why.

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Old 05-18-19, 11:29 AM
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Originally Posted by mstateglfr View Post
They probably have a bunch of triple spec'd bikes for the same reason they have a bunch of bikes rocking Ritchey ergo bars with that bump on the drops.
...cheap and plentiful stock.
This. The market for triples dried up before manufacturers stopped making them, so BD could get a lot of 3x gear for cheap.

Nothing inherently good or bad about triples ... but BD does things to save money. So, yeah, that is the answer.
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Old 05-18-19, 11:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Maelochs View Post
This. The market for triples dried up before manufacturers stopped making them, so BD could get a lot of 3x gear for cheap.

Nothing inherently good or bad about triples ... but BD does things to save money. So, yeah, that is the answer.
Shimano still makes triples for the middle through low-end lines.
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Old 05-18-19, 11:57 AM
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Originally Posted by tyrion View Post
Shimano still makes triples for the middle through low-end lines.
Pretty sure an 11-speed chain would work on a 10-speed chain ring, and the STI levr looks close enough to the upper realm that I wouldn't mind (https://bike.shimano.com/en-US/produ...agra-4700.html)

Not sure which manufacturers are speccing this build though ... maybe flat bar bikes, hybrids? other than BD I don't recall seeing a lot.

(I have a 4700 triple chain ring in a box on a shelf in my office, waiting for build I will never be able to afford.)
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Old 05-18-19, 12:20 PM
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I have an 11–speed Campagnolo triple group-set (see, I didn't say 'grouppo'), and I am not sorry.
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Old 05-18-19, 12:40 PM
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Bikes Direct sells cheap crap with names from companies that had some prestige at one point and were bought out by BD so their crap could look legit. Those concerned with what BD sells must be beginners and those who hate triples must be beginners. I get it a 2x11 is great and probably with the right cranks and cassette can get you most of those gears and yes you may have some redundancy but a 3x9 or even 3x10 can be handy and some people don't want to go all the way 1x either. I have drivetrains of all sorts from 3x to 2x and to 1x and I love them all for different reasons. As long as your drivetrain shifts crisply and smoothly that is the only thing that really matters.
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Old 05-18-19, 12:53 PM
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Because a granny ring weighs a few grams. Everything else is already in place. And for those of us who aren't carbon extremists, thinking we're in the Tour De France, (most people) having fifty percent more gearing is preferable.
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Old 05-18-19, 01:05 PM
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Because a granny ring weighs a few grams. Everything else is already in place.
Don't forget the extra cable needed to move the derailleur another 5mm.
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Originally Posted by Phil_gretz View Post
America is increasingly obese and sedentary, so triples make sense. Don't they?
You left out getting older. As one of those, I appreciate the third ring sometimes. One of my bikes has but two and, at times, really miss that t third ring on occasion.
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