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Old 05-25-19, 08:10 AM
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I never understood the appeal of announcing to the world you're no longer participating. Just disappear gracefully. Why make a big song and dance over it? Is it so you can inevitably get roasted and haughtily declare, "See? I'm right!"?
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Old 05-25-19, 08:23 AM
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Originally Posted by BobbyG View Post
A co-worker showed me the softball forums he participates in. I believe snark, spite and bullying are pre-requisites there. While there is some occasional unpleasantness here, bikeforums has very little to worry about. Thanks to our moderators and the fact that cycling generates more endorphins than softball.
IT forums are the same. Bikeforums has nothing on them!! I'm in IT and have been for years, but have never got up the courage to ask something on an IT forum. I'll search and read responses, but even if I still have questions the thread will likely have deteriorated into a "what are you? a complete idiot?" thing within about 4 posts, so I won't dare to ask for clarification.
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Old 05-25-19, 08:48 AM
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Originally Posted by JW Fas View Post
I never understood the appeal of announcing to the world you're no longer participating. Just disappear gracefully. Why make a big song and dance over it?

Is it so you can inevitably get roasted and haughtily declare, "See? I'm right!"?
Yet on the Fifty-Plus Forum, the disappeared are remembered fondly, and sought out, for example, Anyone hear from STAPFAM these days??
Originally Posted by jppe View Post
STAPFAM was a regular here for a long time but it’s been quite a while since he’s posted
Originally Posted by berner View Post
I've wondered about the bloke myself.Also 10Wheels has nor been heard from in about the same length of time.
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What about the guy who organized the 50+ jersey purchase the last few times?
Originally Posted by qcpmsame View Post
I miss Solveg's posts, and Tom Bombadill always had something interesting to say, too. Easthill in another member I miss...

There were many people that helped me out when I first joined up here. Denver, Stapfam, Jim from Boston, Jim Mueller, Easthill, Miss Kenton, the various Diegos, and a host of others, all got me off to a good start here.

I had some great mentors when I joined up, everyone here was supportive and encouraging to me...

Bill
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This is a great thread.
Originally Posted by qcpmsame View Post
Either quoting a member, or using a "Mention" with the "@" character ahead of their screen name is flushing the, Once Forgotten members out of their holes...

Bill
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Anyone hear from STAPFAM these days??

For those Fifty-Plus and older, I'm reminded of that frequently repeated 1960 TV version of Peter Pan with Mary Martin, in which Tinkerbelle was fading away, and Peter Pan pleaded with the TV audience,"If you believe, clap your hands; don't let Tink die."
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This thread is just wonderful. And yeah, Stapfam is one of the people who I do miss a little here. But it has been excellent to see some other people posting here who haven't in a while.

Any chance they can stick around for a while?
Keep clapping.
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Old 05-25-19, 08:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Machka View Post
IT forums are the same. Bikeforums has nothing on them!! I'm in IT and have been for years, but have never got up the courage to ask something on an IT forum. I'll search and read responses, but even if I still have questions the thread will likely have deteriorated into a "what are you? a complete idiot?" thing within about 4 posts, so I won't dare to ask for clarification.
Funny bc it's 100% true; and IT guys must also play a lot of softball.

I can't remember exactly how the saying goes, but it's a "programming wisdom" thing: "To get the right answer to a question, post the wrong answer on the internet, and stand back."
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Old 05-25-19, 09:03 AM
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Stay in long enough, and you will come to recognize that pretty much every internet forum is the same. Why wouldn't it be? The posts are (mostly) made by people, and while there are a whole lot of those, there aren't really that many unique types. So regardless of the pursuit, every forum will be populated by a series of tropes: the internet tough guy, the guy who only makes snarky/witty remarks, the guy yelling to USE THE SEARCH FUNCTION, the guy constantly driving up his post count, etc. But most notably, the thing that gets under the skins of those who have been around a while but still haven't learned to follow the Way of Elsaź (that is: Let It Go) the shiny brand new member who just wants to ask a question. It does not occur to them that the same pool of questions has been asked hundreds upon hundreds of times. The just want to know why something isn't working, or how to make something work better.

Internet forums are like a sociological experiment conducted by no one. I often wonder how the online persona meshes with the real-world person. I met a fellow BF member in person for the first time a few years ago, and he made a remark something along the lines of, "You know, you're exactly what I imagined from your posts." I still have no idea if that was intended as a compliment, but I absolutely took it as one. I wouldn't post anything here I wouldn't say aloud to anyone. Some other members? I don't think the same would be true.
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Originally Posted by Machka View Post
Email notification? What email notification???

I turned the email notification off ages ago.

Putting a person on the ignore list means that when you read a thread, you don't see their responses ... unless someone else quotes them. So if the OP had you on ignore, he would not see your post, but he would see it here because I quoted you.

So if you suspect that someone has another person on ignore ... quote the "ignored" person. That way the person who put that person on ignore won't miss out on the ignored person's thread.
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Old 05-25-19, 09:23 AM
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Originally Posted by JW Fas View Post
I never understood the appeal of announcing to the world you're no longer participating. Just disappear gracefully. Why make a big song and dance over it? Is it so you can inevitably get roasted and haughtily declare, "See? I'm right!"?
The appeal derives from the same pompous attitude that drives announcing the poster's alleged astuteness by being the first to post "****" or the popcorn eating smilie on threads in which they have nothing to offer. Somewhat related to the tendency by some of the same posters to shout "troll" at those they suspect of unworthy contributions to BF.
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Originally Posted by bikeme View Post
This forum seems to have a few know-it-all, snarky bullies on it that make it unpleasant to use.
Originally Posted by DrIsotope View Post
Stay in long enough, and you will come to recognize that pretty much every internet forum is the same. Why wouldn't it be?

The posts are (mostly) made by people, and while there are a whole lot of those, there aren't really that many unique types.

So regardless of the pursuit, every forum will be populated by a series of tropes: the internet tough guy, the guy who only makes snarky/witty remarks, the guy yelling to USE THE SEARCH FUNCTION, the guy constantly driving up his post count, etc....

Internet forums are like a sociological experiment conducted by no one. I often wonder how the online persona meshes with the real-world person.

I met a fellow BF member in person for the first time a few years ago, and he made a remark something along the lines of, "You know, you're exactly what I imagined from your posts."

I still have no idea if that was intended as a compliment, but I absolutely took it as one. I wouldn't post anything here I wouldn't say aloud to anyone. Some other members? I don't think the same would be true.
I have posted (link) about meeting other members of BF face to face, but here is one I would not want to meet:
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In 2013, I got involved in one of the most hostile brouhahas I have ever read on BikeForums…about paragraphs! My adversary shall remain nameless.

On a now-closed thread ["How Do You Communicate on Forums vs Face-to-Face"]in a reply to a long, unbroken post I wrote:
Originally Posted by Jim from Boston
Paragraphs, please.

PS: I did read your post, in its entirety.
Originally Posted by xxx
I wouldn't spend near as much time with you in person, let alone stop for paragraphs. ****, I might even let go of punctuation in person, except when you feel the heel of my boot hit your chin
Complete with a graphic illustration.


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Old 05-25-19, 10:31 AM
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That's the toe of a boot hitting a lip, so yes, obviously, the guy was a complete moron.
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Old 05-25-19, 10:33 AM
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I wouldn't spend near as much time with you in person, let alone stop for paragraphs. ****, I might even let go of punctuation in person, except when you feel the heel of my boot hit your chin
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Complete with a graphic illustration
Originally Posted by Maelochs View Post
That's the toe of a boot hitting a lip, so yes, obviously, the guy was a complete moron.
The picture of the hit is of the follow through.

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Old 05-25-19, 11:45 AM
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HTFU and grow some thicker skin. If you can't put up with annoying people on internet forums how are you ever going to deal with annoying people in real world ??
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Pretty dull place if everyone was nice and cordial toward one another. It's a great place to ask bike-related questions and learn something, but also great for the drama.
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.[color=#333333]The picture of the hit is of the follow through.
Well ... since it is Pro Wrestling ... it is all absolutely 100 percent real.
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Chief Jay Strong bow ... Bruno Sammartino ....
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IT forums are the same. Bikeforums has nothing on them!! I'm in IT and have been for years, but have never got up the courage to ask something on an IT forum. I'll search and read responses, but even if I still have questions the thread will likely have deteriorated into a "what are you? a complete idiot?" thing within about 4 posts, so I won't dare to ask for clarification.
Maybe we could have an IT subforum here instead?
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The ignore list is a wonderful thing.
It's not that wonderful , you put the persons name on it but you still see the persons name just not the post .
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Originally Posted by bikeme View Post
This forum seems to have a few know-it-all, snarky bullies on it that make it unpleasant to use. It's no surprise, forums of all topics have them. In response, I will no longer engage them and instead try to be nice, encouraging, and helpful to others.
Good plan. Words to live by. 👍
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The problem when someone like fietsbob is the 1st to reply to your thread, his vague incoherence dilutes down the relevancy of the original question. It is especially counter-productive on the mechanics forum where I am often seeking real feedback but not as a novice. Many of us are reasonably accomplished mechanics already.

Also certain members feel compelled to act like authorities on topics where they have strong opinions contrary to the OP. It is pretty toxic to the process of finding real, creative solutions to problems.

The recent thread about down tube shifting in the general cycling forum was a good example. A select few very opinionated posters took it upon themselves to opine in a most dogmatic way that ultimately made them sound petty & irrelevant.
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I enjoy a little snark and sarcasm. I certainly have some of that in me, but I won't let it define me. I also like the people who really do know-it-all. Know-it-most is probably a better way to put it. I have learned from those folks. Heck, I have built bikes based in part off information I received from them here. Every forum, and I am active on many, has some insufferable jackwipes. It's easy enough not to engage them. I suffer from periods of migraines. I could go look back at the tenor of my posts over a set period and be able to tell if I was suffering migraines. I am here for several reasons. Entertainment, education, enlightenment, encouragement and enjoyment. While I don't always hit the mark, I try to frame my posts with an eye toward that.

It's truly a good forum OP, don't let those with a nasty disposition dissuade you.
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That's why we can't have guns here.
We can't?
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I had a question before even finishing your first sentence but you knew it was coming didn't you? Is it ok to throw in some well meaning sarcastic humor if, like myself, there is usually no SME content to share?
Bucky Kat,
Would you please use the sarcasm font when needed? Smiles, MH
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The ignore list is a wonderful thing.
Indeed, 43 and counting in an increasing tempo on BF of nasty trolling, baiting sock-puppets and an appallingly deep and pervasive Dunning-Kruger effect on so many BF Posters. Other than that: Good to Go.

PS: If I don't respond to your follow-on posts you are already likely Ignored, or should/will be.

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Indeed, 43 and counting in an increasing tempo on BF of nasty trolling, baiting sock-puppets and an appallingly deep and pervasive Dunning-Kruger effect on so many BF Posters. Other than that: Good to Go.

PS: If I don't respond to your follow-on posts you are already likely Ignored, or should/will be.

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Hillyman,
As a long time resident in Bloomington, you likely know me. Worked at the Bike Garage and just about every other shop in town. I still have the painting from the 1991 ride hanging on the wall of my front room. PM me off line, would like to find out more about you. Smiles, MH
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Originally Posted by hillyman View Post
Testing 1,2,3
Sorry, the utterly banal is quickly passed over w/o a thought.

To be truly Ignore-able takes a deep and dedicated commitment to deliberate troll-ish divisiveness, being an obvious poisonous sock-puppet, complete ignorance of the topic at hand as well as a fanatic commitment to that ignorance, deliberate ill-feeling, personal animosity, repeated posting on the same old diatribe over and yet over again and yet over again, long winded pointless endless incoherent/un-readable rambles as well as full blown 41-ism and/or being a member of the C&V Period Correct Police.

And yet 43 so far......not so bad, considering.

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