Health hazards of chain lube
#226
Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: NE Tennessee
Posts: 917
Bikes: Giant TCR/Surly Karate Monkey/Foundry FireTower/Curtlo Tandem
Mentioned: 4 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 169 Post(s)
Liked 83 Times
in
61 Posts
Ok... So after a handful of pages, what is the chain lube that has caused all of the ruckus?

#227
my bikes have chrome
Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: Tucson, AZ
Posts: 4,008
Bikes: Schwinn Volare ('78); Raleigh Competition GS ('79)
Mentioned: 29 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 747 Post(s)
Liked 626 Times
in
312 Posts
Parrafin.
__________________
A race bike in any era is a highly personal choice that at its "best" balances the requirements of fit, weight, handling, durability and cost tempered by the willingness to toss it and oneself down the pavement at considerable speed. ~Bandera
A race bike in any era is a highly personal choice that at its "best" balances the requirements of fit, weight, handling, durability and cost tempered by the willingness to toss it and oneself down the pavement at considerable speed. ~Bandera

Likes For Fahrenheit531:
#228
Knurled Nut
Join Date: Jun 2018
Location: New England
Posts: 14,860
Bikes: Serotta Atlanta; 1994 Specialized Allez Pro; Giant OCR A1; SOMA Double Cross Disc; 2022 Allez Elite mit der SRAM
Mentioned: 62 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 7833 Post(s)
Liked 8,366 Times
in
4,674 Posts

#230
Knurled Nut
Join Date: Jun 2018
Location: New England
Posts: 14,860
Bikes: Serotta Atlanta; 1994 Specialized Allez Pro; Giant OCR A1; SOMA Double Cross Disc; 2022 Allez Elite mit der SRAM
Mentioned: 62 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 7833 Post(s)
Liked 8,366 Times
in
4,674 Posts

#231
Passista
Join Date: Jul 2005
Posts: 7,430
Bikes: 1998 Pinarello Asolo, 1992 KHS Montaña pro, 1980 Raleigh DL-1, IGH Hybrid, IGH Utility
Mentioned: 5 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 811 Post(s)
Liked 561 Times
in
308 Posts
Am I the only one here who suspects this might be part of an elaborate scheme by some big bike manufacturer to reintroduce shaft-drive bikes?

#232
Full Member
I wonder where Aaron (or Laural Tomchick) got this information. First, Simple Green does not contain 2-butoxyethanol (2-BE) according to their SDS. Second, 2-BE, although it can be absorbed through the skin, is of low toxicity to humans. Third, 2-BE is not regulated by the EPA as a hazardous waste. Fourth, sodium metasilicate, being a caustic chemical, is not very friendly to your skin. Most cleaners labeled as butyl-free will be highly alkaline so be careful when you use them. Also, they they may damage aluminum components.
I browsed Aaron's site and applaud their energy towards an environmentally conscious life, though I was not able to find the particular statement that you attributed to them. Still, this is one more example of how misinformation is plaguing our modern world.
Here's a link to the Simple Green Safety Data Sheet
As a side note: Aaron's site has a picture of Thomas Stevens on their index page but don't identify this fascinating man who did an around the world trip in the late 1800s on his Columbia ordinary.
I browsed Aaron's site and applaud their energy towards an environmentally conscious life, though I was not able to find the particular statement that you attributed to them. Still, this is one more example of how misinformation is plaguing our modern world.
Here's a link to the Simple Green Safety Data Sheet
As a side note: Aaron's site has a picture of Thomas Stevens on their index page but don't identify this fascinating man who did an around the world trip in the late 1800s on his Columbia ordinary.
https://simplegreen.com/downloads/SD...oseCleaner.pdf
The MSDS for Simple Green in the USA has different ingredients:
https://cdn.simplegreen.com/download...oseCleaner.pdf
True, they do not currently show 2-BE listed. I will research this more to see if this was a past ingredient. But know that it is quite common these days for a chemical or drug to be banned in one country for health reasons, and a company keeps right on using it in other countries.

#233
Half way there
Join Date: Sep 2015
Location: North Carolina
Posts: 2,874
Bikes: Many, and the list changes frequently
Mentioned: 5 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 958 Post(s)
Liked 828 Times
in
496 Posts
The link you posted is for Simple Green Australia:
https://simplegreen.com/downloads/SD...oseCleaner.pdf
The MSDS for Simple Green in the USA has different ingredients:
https://cdn.simplegreen.com/download...oseCleaner.pdf
https://simplegreen.com/downloads/SD...oseCleaner.pdf
The MSDS for Simple Green in the USA has different ingredients:
https://cdn.simplegreen.com/download...oseCleaner.pdf
True, they do not currently show 2-BE listed. I will research this more to see if this was a past ingredient.
But know that it is quite common these days for a chemical or drug to be banned in one country for health reasons, and a company keeps right on using it in other countries.

#234
Farmer tan
No, I wondered if anybody else knew anything about this. I did look online and didn't find anything, but my google-fu, isn't the best. It seems like nobody else has heard this, so I am tempted to go back to the bike shop and ask them about it.
I don't want to name the product unless I get some corroborating evidence. Companies are known to go after people who diss them online. Also it would be unfair to the company if it is not true.
I think I am leaning to the side of there being nothing to it. So I won't say anything more.
If anybody has anything to add about more eco friendly and healthy chain lubes I would be happy to hear it.
I don't want to name the product unless I get some corroborating evidence. Companies are known to go after people who diss them online. Also it would be unfair to the company if it is not true.
I think I am leaning to the side of there being nothing to it. So I won't say anything more.
If anybody has anything to add about more eco friendly and healthy chain lubes I would be happy to hear it.
That's healthy.

Likes For f4rrest:
#235
cyclotourist
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: calgary, canada
Posts: 1,464
Mentioned: 2 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 442 Post(s)
Liked 204 Times
in
129 Posts
The link you posted is for Simple Green Australia:
https://simplegreen.com/downloads/SD...oseCleaner.pdf
The MSDS for Simple Green in the USA has different ingredients:
https://cdn.simplegreen.com/download...oseCleaner.pdf
True, they do not currently show 2-BE listed. I will research this more to see if this was a past ingredient. But know that it is quite common these days for a chemical or drug to be banned in one country for health reasons, and a company keeps right on using it in other countries.
https://simplegreen.com/downloads/SD...oseCleaner.pdf
The MSDS for Simple Green in the USA has different ingredients:
https://cdn.simplegreen.com/download...oseCleaner.pdf
True, they do not currently show 2-BE listed. I will research this more to see if this was a past ingredient. But know that it is quite common these days for a chemical or drug to be banned in one country for health reasons, and a company keeps right on using it in other countries.

#236
Super Moderator
Illicit drug talk and other things are WAY off topic. Closed.
__________________
Bikes: Old steel race bikes, old Cannondale race bikes, less old Cannondale race bike, crappy old mtn bike.
FYI: https://www.bikeforums.net/forum-sugg...ad-please.html
Bikes: Old steel race bikes, old Cannondale race bikes, less old Cannondale race bike, crappy old mtn bike.
FYI: https://www.bikeforums.net/forum-sugg...ad-please.html
Last edited by Homebrew01; 06-15-19 at 06:43 PM.
