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kdeleon 06-26-19 09:22 PM

Kickstand?
 
So I'm getting back into biking after many years. I'm looking to get a nicer bike (leaning towards a Sirrus). Anyway, I see in the higher end models most people don't put some kind of kickstand, or at least that is what it seems. I understand for home people have some kind of stand or holder. But what does everyone do when outside their home. Like don't you stop somewhere or if you travel and don't have your home stand. Or maybe people do have kickstands and I just missed it.

Can you recommend a way to stand the bike away from the home base? And if it is a kickstand, maybe a specific model.

thumpism 06-26-19 09:26 PM

Rear mount such as a Greenfield is useful and nearly universal. Newer bikes with disc brakes have frame fitting bosses that might interfere with mounting these.
https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...f8189e1675.jpg

TacosGalore 06-26-19 09:39 PM

how about an ..
 

topeak flashstand?


kdeleon 06-26-19 09:47 PM


Originally Posted by TacosGalore (Post 20999251)

topeak flashstand?


I had something like this before but a big one, so not portable. So have you traveled with it or do you have to pack it every time you ride and think you may stop?

veganbikes 06-26-19 09:54 PM

If I am going somewhere I will want to lock up my bike and if I am doing that the kickstand wouldn't be used and if I am making a short stop and will be near my bike I generally just lean it against the rubber of the rear wheel and it acts as a natural kickstand. The time that doesn't work well is sometimes with racks and a lot of times with fenders.

The only time I would want a kickstand is maybe on a heavy bike like an e-bike or cargo bike or if they had one that integrated nicely and was designed for the bike like say the old Scott SUBs. Two bolts are way better than one and unfortunately few bikes have a two bolt stand so the one bolt can come loose and the kickstand could move around and get caught somewhere or make noise or deploy when you really don't want it to. Plus schlepping the extra weight for a little convenience once and while just doesn't jive with me.

Rje58 06-26-19 09:58 PM

My wife and I have the Greenfield rear stands on all our bikes. We use them every time we ride. Even just taking a break on the side of the road, we find them useful so we can walk around a bit and move away from the bike without having to find something to lean it against, or laying it down. I also find it useful when I am doing solo rides and I need to make an adjustment out on the road, change out a tail light, etc.

TacosGalore 06-26-19 11:54 PM

Oh
 

Originally Posted by kdeleon (Post 20999260)
I had something like this before but a big one, so not portable. So have you traveled with it or do you have to pack it every time you ride and think you may stop?

I havenít actually used it my self but since you mentioned you were looking for away home stand. I remember searching the web and stumbling upon it awhile back. I believe it dose the job for its size.

jpescatore 06-27-19 03:55 AM

I have kickstands on some one of my bikes, two I don't. I'm not a purist about it, but found almost invariably there is somewhere to lean the bike or I'm locking it up at bike rack - so never bothered on the last 2 bikes.

If not, there is usually a curb in a parking lot that you can lean your pedal on and the bike stands up just fine. If there is no curb, you can put your helmet down and make it act as a curb.

wolfchild 06-27-19 04:10 AM

You don't need a kickstand. Just lean your bike against a wall or a tree or a post or lay it on the ground.

GlennR 06-27-19 04:43 AM


Originally Posted by wolfchild (Post 20999417)
You don't need a kickstand. Just lean your bike against a wall or a tree or a post or lay it on the ground.

http://glenn-ring.com/emonda/preserve.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/lSVZOtX.jpg

FlMTNdude 06-27-19 04:50 AM

https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...80859c1ad.jpeg

The only time I ever use a kickstand is loading and unloading my bike for commuting. This is my version, bike is shown without panniers. Kickstands can tip a bike too easily, either with wind or cargo weight.

gringomojado 06-27-19 05:39 AM

Get and use kickstands, don't be a "purist" (snob)! Next you will be shaving (if you are male) your legs!

Kovkov 06-27-19 05:56 AM

Pletscher esge.

Kapusta 06-27-19 06:38 AM

I just lean the bike against something.

Wall
Tree
Fence
Railing
Sign post
Telephone pole
Stack of old pallets

boozergut 06-27-19 06:42 AM

I love the Greenfield kick stand. As it gets hotter stops become more frequent. By the time I stop Im dripping sweat, my glasses are fogged up, and bugs are biting. I don't like groping for a tree, big rock, wall etc. Flip the stand down and towel off!

BobbyG 06-27-19 06:49 AM

I have three bikes. My two commuters have kickstands by the rear wheel. My old road bike has none. I lean it against things or against a curb, I will flip it over and rest it on the seat and bars., or sometimes lay it down, but not on the "drive side" so the rear deraillier cage won't be pushed out of alignment.

If you must lean your bike, please be mindful of other's possessions and property, i.e. cars, windows, decorative railings, murals, etc.

Rollfast 06-27-19 07:08 AM

I have a dual (forked) kickstand on Tempest. I put a custom paint job on my frames, why tear it up and leave it lying around like detritus? I still have a spare stand in reserve, and I find it very awkward to not be able to just flick it down and up again with my left foot. With a dual stand you simply move the bike forward and it goes up. Simplemente. A rear stand doesn't look like it will handle having a load over the back wheel to me, so it's not practical with baskets/panniers/saddlebags IMO.

GlennR 06-27-19 07:11 AM


Originally Posted by gringomojado (Post 20999459)
Get and use kickstands, don't be a "purist" (snob)! Next you will be shaving (if you are male) your legs!

What? Women can't shave their legs too?

fietsbob 06-27-19 07:26 AM


" (leaning towards a Sirrus). "
may I suggest you lean towards a model with a mount for a kickstand , mount for short chainstay sport/race style bikes

would be by the rear Left, some now bolt directly on with 2 bolts Trek - Bontrager is doing that for the world market..
this from www.pletscher.ch

https://www.pletscher.ch/images/cont...ds/p5_pic2.jpg


alternatives are something you bring with you Click-Stand Home Page and the upstand https://upstandingbicycle.com/ ..

Slightspeed 06-27-19 07:55 AM

Somebody on the Eroica ride this year had a Clickstand at the Lighthouse stop, and lots of people were checking it out. Seems to work for them. I think they were riding a tandem. I haven't had a kickstand on a bike since 5th grade. There is always a tree, post, fence, rock, or something to lean against. That being said, I got a nice big scratch on the top tube of my fancy carbon road bike from leaning against an aluminum flag pole. I put the saddle against the pole, and a gust of wind or something slid the bike from the pole, it fell, and slid along the pole taking paint with it. Stuff happens. Still not a fan of stands, but I don't ride loaded touring bikes or make a lot of stops.

jefnvk 06-27-19 08:08 AM

Greenfield rear kickstand is what I use, on everything but my disc brake bike (doesn't fit) or the vintage ones with built in stands.

If you want one, get one. Don't let people shame you into not using one, it is one of those topics that the "purists" can't resist telling you how wrong you are for not doing it their way. Contrary to what they will have you believe, bikes fall over propped against stuff just as much as they fall over on a properly installed and adjusted kickstand for me, which is relatively infrequently in both cases.

ksryder 06-27-19 08:10 AM


Originally Posted by gringomojado (Post 20999459)
Get and use kickstands, don't be a "purist" (snob)! Next you will be shaving (if you are male) your legs!

This combination of bizarre punctuation, snobbery disguised as anti-snobbery, and casual misogyny, is peak bikeforums.

FiftySix 06-27-19 08:20 AM

I like kickstands. Much like I like centerstands on motorcycles. But then I ride rather pedestrian types of bicycles where a kickstand is more of a help than a hindrance.

fietsbob 06-27-19 08:34 AM

Green field makes a rear triangle clamp on , adapter to use the center stand they already made a zillion of..

The Swiss Approach is lighter, to perform the same task..

https://www.pletscher.ch/images/cont...s/p10_pic1.jpg

kdeleon 06-27-19 01:53 PM

All,
Thanks for all the suggestions and experiences. This was really helpful. Seems like Greenfield is pretty popular and I'm leaning to look into Clickstand. But for now, I think I will go with the lean method except for home where I will get some kind of stand.

xroadcharlie 06-27-19 02:28 PM

I was using a steel rear kickstand, but the bike fell over too easily no matter how I adjusted it. My new bike has a single leg center kickstand that is much lighter, more stable, and adjustable.

With 9 "Things" on my handlebar, a rear rack & trunk bag, Light, Water bottle, and the aforementioned kickstand, I could care less about being a biking purist. If I will use it I wouldn't give it a second thought.

LesG 06-27-19 02:58 PM

Not sure which Sirrus but if carbon fiber here's a couple of choices.

https://upstandingbicycle.com/what-is-the-upstand/

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B074T8V8PH...v_ov_lig_dp_it

gringomojado 06-27-19 05:51 PM

Do the pros on The Tour of France use kickstands? That should settle it.
gm

gringomojado 06-27-19 05:52 PM

The pros shave legs though!
gm

Moe Zhoost 06-27-19 06:04 PM


Originally Posted by gringomojado (Post 21000742)
Do the pros on The Tour of France use kickstands? That should settle it.
gm

No, they have a team car with a guy that jumps out to hold the bike up.

I eschewed kick-stands for 40 years, thinking that they were not for "real" cyclists. I recently mounted a Greenfield on my hybrid, because I got tired of having to find a suitable thing to serve as a leaning device. It works great.


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