Hand signals?
#1
Senior Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: NV
Posts: 600
Bikes: 2021 Litespeed T5 105, 1990 Gios Compact Pro 105
Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 167 Post(s)
Liked 325 Times
in
182 Posts
Hand signals?
So I was passing a couple - guy in front and a woman behind him. As I was coming up on her left and passing, she did what I took to be a signal - tapped her left top of her thigh then pointed downward. I just rode by. Was she telling me I could pass on the left?
#2
Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Kentucky
Posts: 2,546
Bikes: 06 Lemond Reno, 98 GT Timberline mtn.bike
Mentioned: 7 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 408 Post(s)
Liked 675 Times
in
422 Posts
I've found that if a rider is pointing downward, they are pointing to something that you may want to avoid. Pothole, part of a broken branch, piece of glass, etc. No idea what it means along with tapping to top of the thigh.
Likes For freeranger:
#4
Senior Member
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Lebanon (Liberty Hill), CT
Posts: 8,449
Bikes: CAAD 12, MASI Gran Criterium S, Colnago World Cup CX & Guru steel
Mentioned: 6 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1717 Post(s)
Liked 1,267 Times
in
731 Posts
I've been riding for 40 yrs and I have no idea what that means. I agree that pointing down means there's something in the road to be avoided.
#5
Juicy
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Carpentersville, IL
Posts: 168
Bikes: Waterford, Surly Long Haul Trucker,
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 6 Times
in
4 Posts
I agree with what has already been written. She was pointing to something on the ground. I don't tap my thigh but I point to the ground and shake my hand trying to get the attention of riders behind me if I spot something on the ground.
__________________
This space for rent, reasonable rates.
This space for rent, reasonable rates.
Likes For Rowdy:
#8
Senior Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: NV
Posts: 600
Bikes: 2021 Litespeed T5 105, 1990 Gios Compact Pro 105
Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 167 Post(s)
Liked 325 Times
in
182 Posts
I give up. Probably numb hands. I assumed she knew I was coming up by having a take-a-look mirror but didn't check / see it.
#9
1/2 as far in 2x the time
Join Date: Nov 2013
Location: Northern Bergen County, NJ
Posts: 1,935
Bikes: Yes, Please.
Mentioned: 13 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 499 Post(s)
Liked 285 Times
in
222 Posts
A level, exaggerated forward waving motion with the left hand, is the standard way of indicating " safe to go around me on the left."
Ok?
#10
Senior Member
Join Date: Jul 2018
Location: Annapolis, MD
Posts: 157
Bikes: BMC Teammachine SLR02 Disc, Cannondale CAAD 4
Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 77 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 16 Times
in
10 Posts
I was behind a guy on a group ride once. We approached a right turn and he held up his left hand and and raised his fist to the sky. I was quite perplexed until I realized he was giving the (correct) hand signal for a right turn while driving a car. Never seen a cyclist do that, though. I think he was new.
Likes For JasonD67:
#11
Senior Member
Join Date: Nov 2014
Location: Eugene, Oregon, USA
Posts: 27,586
Mentioned: 217 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 18032 Post(s)
Liked 4,346 Times
in
3,246 Posts
I was behind a guy on a group ride once. We approached a right turn and he held up his left hand and and raised his fist to the sky. I was quite perplexed until I realized he was giving the (correct) hand signal for a right turn while driving a car. Never seen a cyclist do that, though. I think he was new.
Of course, some of those group rides are with the over-50 crowd.

Last edited by CliffordK; 07-20-19 at 10:59 AM.
#12
I'm the anecdote.
Join Date: Apr 2019
Location: S.E. Texas
Posts: 1,823
Bikes: '12 Schwinn, '13 Norco
Mentioned: 9 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1110 Post(s)
Liked 1,176 Times
in
795 Posts
I use hand signals for turn indicators when cars are present. Today, I gave the ol' right turn signal with my left arm when I came up to an intersection where I had no stop sign and the car at that intersection did have a stop sign.
It goes back to my motorcycle days and your right hand is for the throttle and front brake. Due to motorcycles, I always move my front brake lever to the right handlebar.
Motorcycle hand signals in the webpage below.
5 Things to Keep in Mind when Motorcycle Group Riding ? Motorcycle Central
It goes back to my motorcycle days and your right hand is for the throttle and front brake. Due to motorcycles, I always move my front brake lever to the right handlebar.
Motorcycle hand signals in the webpage below.
5 Things to Keep in Mind when Motorcycle Group Riding ? Motorcycle Central
#13
Senior Member
Join Date: Nov 2014
Location: Eugene, Oregon, USA
Posts: 27,586
Mentioned: 217 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 18032 Post(s)
Liked 4,346 Times
in
3,246 Posts
I have wondered about the difference of using right vs left for right turns. Using the arm on the "road side" may be more visible to vehicles, although pointing where one is wishing to turn is very clear to everyone.
I'd use both arms, but I don't like riding without hands (an experiment gone wrong many years ago).
I usually only signal right when it would "make a difference". Cars pulling out of a road I'm turning into, cars coming up from behind, and could make the turn around me, etc.
For left turns, I usually verify the path is clear before making my move, but still am more likely to use a left signal if there are cars somewhere back there.
I'd use both arms, but I don't like riding without hands (an experiment gone wrong many years ago).
I usually only signal right when it would "make a difference". Cars pulling out of a road I'm turning into, cars coming up from behind, and could make the turn around me, etc.
For left turns, I usually verify the path is clear before making my move, but still am more likely to use a left signal if there are cars somewhere back there.
#14
Senior Member
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: Alpharetta, GA
Posts: 15,280
Bikes: Nashbar Road
Mentioned: 71 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2934 Post(s)
Liked 341 Times
in
228 Posts
Patting the hip, by some "serious" roadies, means go ahead and draft. Pointing down may have been her embellishment giving you permission to move up closer.
I'd have taken it to be a request to stay behind for now. But personally, when I'm not riding with your group I don't care much about your signals and I don't take direction at all - my judgment is almost always better than a random group rider's is. I'd have done the same thing you did. Just pass and quickly get clear of whatever it is that they had going on.
I'd have taken it to be a request to stay behind for now. But personally, when I'm not riding with your group I don't care much about your signals and I don't take direction at all - my judgment is almost always better than a random group rider's is. I'd have done the same thing you did. Just pass and quickly get clear of whatever it is that they had going on.
#15
Every day a winding road
That is the universal signal for passing gas and to avoid the area. She was doing you a huge favor.
#16
vespertine member
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: Land of Angora, Turkey
Posts: 2,476
Bikes: Yes
Mentioned: 22 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 687 Post(s)
Liked 220 Times
in
163 Posts
The pointing might have been a standard road hazard signal. If I'm just riding along on some road and see another cyclist not too far back, I start pointing out hazards and gravel - because 1) I care about my fellow cyclists, and 2) it shows that I'm aware of their presence and 'serious' enough that they can choose to pass, or draft, without worrying that I'm going to erratically move off my line.
People I ride with signal - a lot. Then again, we have a lot of hazards, and we also like to demonstrate that the vast majority of cyclists are law-abiding citizens who follow the rules of the road.
Likes For wipekitty:
#17
Senior Member
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Lebanon (Liberty Hill), CT
Posts: 8,449
Bikes: CAAD 12, MASI Gran Criterium S, Colnago World Cup CX & Guru steel
Mentioned: 6 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1717 Post(s)
Liked 1,267 Times
in
731 Posts
I was behind a guy on a group ride once. We approached a right turn and he held up his left hand and and raised his fist to the sky. I was quite perplexed until I realized he was giving the (correct) hand signal for a right turn while driving a car. Never seen a cyclist do that, though. I think he was new.
#18
Senior Member
Join Date: Jul 2018
Location: Annapolis, MD
Posts: 157
Bikes: BMC Teammachine SLR02 Disc, Cannondale CAAD 4
Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 77 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 16 Times
in
10 Posts
I've always just pointed with the arm on that side to which I'm turning. I don't think 98% of drivers or other cyclists have any idea that a raised left arm means a right turn.
Likes For JasonD67:
#20
Sunshine
Join Date: Aug 2014
Location: Des Moines, IA
Posts: 16,126
Bikes: '18 class built steel roadbike, '19 Fairlight Secan, '88 Schwinn Premis , Black Mountain Cycles Monstercross V4, '89 Novara Trionfo
Mentioned: 121 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 10492 Post(s)
Liked 6,932 Times
in
3,911 Posts
Drivers needed to do it because their left arm was the only one available to stick out a window for signal visibility.
A cyclist doesnt have that issue.
I ride with a youth mentor program where there are 35 teens and a couple dozen adults. We teach hand signals each year at the start and officially teach that either a left arm up or a right arm pointed right is acceptable. I silently pout each year though. Left arm up for cycling is unnecessary.
Likes For mstateglfr:
#21
Full Member
Join Date: Aug 2014
Posts: 469
Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 196 Post(s)
Liked 135 Times
in
85 Posts
I was behind a guy on a group ride once. We approached a right turn and he held up his left hand and and raised his fist to the sky. I was quite perplexed until I re
alized he was giving the (correct) hand signal for a right turn while driving a car. Never seen a cyclist do that, though. I think he was new.
alized he was giving the (correct) hand signal for a right turn while driving a car. Never seen a cyclist do that, though. I think he was new.
Was he wearing a helmet and was his bike wearing a kickstand?
Likes For Bmach:
#23
Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: SW Fl.
Posts: 5,574
Bikes: Day6 Semi Recumbent "FIREBALL", 1981 Custom Touring Paramount, 1983 Road Paramount, 2013 Giant Propel Advanced SL3, 2018 Specialized Red Roubaix Expert mech., 2002 Magna 7sp hybrid, 1976 Bassett Racing 45sp Cruiser
Mentioned: 17 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1050 Post(s)
Liked 750 Times
in
486 Posts
Even if they do know a raised 90deg bend left arm means turn right- it's an unnecessary signal for cyclists.
Drivers needed to do it because their left arm was the only one available to stick out a window for signal visibility.
A cyclist doesnt have that issue.
I ride with a youth mentor program where there are 35 teens and a couple dozen adults. We teach hand signals each year at the start and officially teach that either a left arm up or a right arm pointed right is acceptable. I silently pout each year though. Left arm up for cycling is unnecessary.
Drivers needed to do it because their left arm was the only one available to stick out a window for signal visibility.
A cyclist doesnt have that issue.
I ride with a youth mentor program where there are 35 teens and a couple dozen adults. We teach hand signals each year at the start and officially teach that either a left arm up or a right arm pointed right is acceptable. I silently pout each year though. Left arm up for cycling is unnecessary.
TAPPING BUTT can also mean the same as flicking fingers or flicking arm = I'm done pulling. POINTING after the tap could indicate to pass on this side.
#24
In Real Life
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Down under down under
Posts: 52,152
Bikes: Lots
Mentioned: 141 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 3203 Post(s)
Liked 592 Times
in
326 Posts
I was behind a guy on a group ride once. We approached a right turn and he held up his left hand and and raised his fist to the sky. I was quite perplexed until I realized he was giving the (correct) hand signal for a right turn while driving a car. Never seen a cyclist do that, though. I think he was new.
__________________
Rowan
My fave photo threads on BF
Century A Month Facebook Group
Machka's Website
Photo Gallery
Rowan
My fave photo threads on BF
Century A Month Facebook Group
Machka's Website
Photo Gallery
#25
Mother Nature's Son
Join Date: Mar 2016
Location: Sussex County, Delaware
Posts: 2,994
Bikes: 2014 Orbea Avant MD30, 2004 Airborne Zeppelin TI, 2003 Lemond Poprad, 2001 Lemond Tourmalet, 2014? Soma Smoothie
Mentioned: 14 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 804 Post(s)
Liked 1,288 Times
in
743 Posts
I believe it is perfectly acceptable to just point in the direction you are turning with the arm/hand on the side in the direction you are turning. I also move the arm, from the elbow, up and down as approaching. I find that a lot of motorists wil nod or wave in thanks for signaling your intentions. I do it for myself and for the motorist. I do no signaling if there is no traffic.