TiHabanero

Received the Boure Pro shorts last Saturday and have been using them all week. I purchased them specifically for the thin, almost traditional chamois. I have plenty of expensive shorts with 10mm and 15mm chamois, and they work fine, but make me feel odd down there. Too much stuff for my liking. Got to thinking about the Protog shorts from long ago and how comfortable they were. Then I pulled out an old pair of Boure bibs from 1998. The Chamois it completely shot and worn through, but they are still very comfortable! Took that old worn out pair on a 40 mile ride and ordered a new pair of Boure Pro shorts, not bibs as I no longer like bibs.

The new shorts are just marvelous. Comfortable, not hot like the thick chamois shorts, and the cut is the first pair of shorts I have had that do not fold over in the front. Heartily recommended for those that prefer a thin chamois.

For what it's worth, I ride a 1986 Turbo saddle, not exactly well padded!

kingston 

I bought a pair of Boure Elite bibs last season and don't like them at all, so they don't work for everyone. Glad they work for you. I really wanted to like them.

canklecat

Chamois/padding thickness comfort depends on my saddle and riding position.

One of my road bikes has a saddle with a large cutout for perineum relief. Occasionally I use it with an aero bar. It's most comfortable with thinner or less dense padding. Pads that are too thick/dense defeat the purpose of the cutout and it feels pretty much like a solid saddle. It's most comfortable with the Aero Tech Pro shorts with their minimal black/tan pads, which are pretty much just microfiber fabric about the thickness of a wash cloth and little loft or density. The Boure UltraSuede pads would probably do nicely with that bike/saddle.

The other bike has a solid saddle. I need thicker or denser pads to be comfortable for rides longer than 20-30 miles, about like the pads in the Black Bibs and similar pads.

But some rides I don't notice any difference until the 40 mile mark. That's when a mismatch of shorts and saddle can make the final 5-10 miles a PITA.

BCDrums

Ti, I wear the Boure shorts, I have two pair. True that the synthetic chamois is thin, but I never thought about it. They are just very comfortable. Previously I wore Pearl Izumi, and the Boure are much better made. Heavy fabric, keeps the gifts in place! Also, no problem adhering to Rule 53.

Will buy again, would recommend to a friend.

TiHabanero

BCDrums, I had to look up Rule 53. I have two pairs of shorts where the crackal reagion is worn thin. Roller shorts only. lol

The heat factor and the softness of the chamois really do it for me. Way cooler down there and the ultra suede feels good against the skin. Not for everyone for sure, but I am happy they work for me.

TiHabanero

Kingston, the Elite shorts did not appeal to me after reading the description of the chamois and compression fabric the shorts panels are made from. The Pearl Izumi shorts I have are compression fabric, and I find them hot. Yes, I love hot weather, but don't like hot shorts! The Pro model description reminded me of the old Protogs, Vigorelli, and Descente shorts I had in the past, and in reality are very, very similar to the Boure bibs I got back in 1998. Good stuff does not need to change much to be remain good stuff.

philbob57

Boure will probably put a new pad into your bibs at a very reasonable cost, if low-cost bibs make you want to use them. They also will sew in their pad to someone else's shorts.

As with anything where fit is important, there's no one size fits all. I'm also a Boure fan.

kingston 

I exchanged emails with Drew at Boure and he suggested the Elites over the Pros. I agree that they seem like my shorts from the 90's, just not in a good way. I like the thin chamois, and there's nothing really wrong with the material, but everything else about the bibs are less comfortable than most of my other shorts. There are too many panels with seams in the wrong places, too much material on the suspender part of the bib and I'd forgotten how much I didn't like those rubber grippers that pull the hair out of my thighs (maybe I should start shaving my legs?). Like I said, I really wanted to like them, and I'm glad they work for some people, I just think PI Pro and Voler Black Label bibs are much more comfortable for about the same price. I haven't ridden in them this season, so I just pulled them out to give them another try tomorrow.

JohnDThompson 

Are you aware that Kucharik will replace chamois for a reasonable cost? Worth considering if the rest of the garment is in reasonable condition. I had them replace the chamois in my old Protogs shorts a couple years ago and they're like new. They'll even sew in a traditional leather chamois if that's what floats your boat.

https://www.kucharikclothing.com/repairs.php