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Old 08-06-19, 01:16 AM
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Originally Posted by WizardOfBoz
Tim, I agree that there's a moral blind spot in many companies regarding respect for the human. That said, if you sign on for a job knowing the requirements, then my view is you're honor-bound to fulfill em as best you can. So if the copier company hires you with the proviso "You'll be on call 24/7", you kind of know the rules beforehand. And a copier or a fax machine in a hospital admissions department may indeed be mission critical. That said, I think that there's Fair Labor Standards payment and overtime requirements that kick in if they demand your availability under some conditions.

I recall a friend of mine, let's call him Roy, having a discussion with the boss (call him Bob).
Bob: Roy, We're gonna need to send you to Saudi Arabia for the XYZ project for the next six months.
Roy: Bob, I don't believe I care to go to Saudi Arabia.
Bob (becoming excited): Roy, you may not have a choice!
Roy (in his very relaxed, unhurried, calm voice): Bob, I always have a choice.
That ended the conversation.
That brought back a memory.

About 15 years ago ... I'd been with a company for 8 or so years, my hours were gradually increasing from the agreed upon 38 hours a week, and I'd just spent about a year working 50-60 hour weeks getting a project done for the company I worked for. I enjoyed the work, the project was a success, so I hadn't minded. But by the end of that project I was tired and looking forward to returning to a more sane 38 hours a week for a while.

Then the company threw a pep talk dinner for our department. We'd done great work, the boss was so proud of us. Rah, rah, rah. And he ended it with saying something along the lines that the next project was going to be bigger and better and would require something of a sacrifice from all of us. We'd all have to pull together, put in more hours and if we did, this new project would be a grand success.

About 2 months later I was cycling around Australia for 3 months with plans to return to university when I got back to Canada.

I had a choice.



And bringing it around to this thread, I've also got a choice of which bicycle I want to ride and what kind of ride I want to do. I know other cyclists have similar choices available to them, and I really don't care one way or the other which choice they've made.
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Old 08-06-19, 03:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Happy Feet
On a bent you get a better view of the bumpers
There's someone I follow on youtube who is riding a trike around the world. According to him one of the disadvantages of a trike is having your face at exhaust pipe level. Particularly in SE Asian cities.
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Old 08-06-19, 09:02 AM
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Originally Posted by ksryder
I'm curious what OP thinks you can see at 12 mph that you can't see at 20.
You see the same things; just a blur at 20 mph, however.
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Old 08-06-19, 09:05 AM
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Ride as much or as little, as long or as short as you feel. Just ride (and stop worrying about what others think).

Eddy Merckx with an assist from me.
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Old 08-06-19, 10:15 AM
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Originally Posted by rydabent
I really enjoy my relaxed style of cycling.
Good to know. This is most likely the goal for almost all cyclists- they want to enjoy their style of cycling. Why anyone would disparage you for cycling how you cycle is beyond me. Conversely, why you would disparage others for cycling how they cycle is beyond me.
Its like you are looking for a fight where there isnt one.
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Old 08-06-19, 10:24 AM
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Originally Posted by mstateglfr
Good to know. This is most likely the goal for almost all cyclists- they want to enjoy their style of cycling. Why anyone would disparage you for cycling how you cycle is beyond me. Conversely, why you would disparage others for cycling how they cycle is beyond me.
Its like you are looking for a fight where there isnt one.
Adopted a dog a few years ago and started working with a dog trainer for a few weeks on obedience. We would visit her at her farm a couple miles out of town where there were dogs and cats and horses and cattle etc. (The trainer thought it was useful for the dogs to have to learn to obey in spite of interesting-smelling distractions.)

One of the animals was a donkey. His name was Jote. (Spanish pronunciation of the "j".) Donkey Jote.

I love dumb literary puns.

Still not as dumb as this thread, though.
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Old 08-06-19, 10:29 AM
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Originally Posted by ksryder
Adopted a dog a few years ago and started working with a dog trainer for a few weeks on obedience. We would visit her at her farm a couple miles out of town where there were dogs and cats and horses and cattle etc. (The trainer thought it was useful for the dogs to have to learn to obey in spite of interesting-smelling distractions.)

One of the animals was a donkey. His name was Jote. (Spanish pronunciation of the "j".) Donkey Jote.

I love dumb literary puns.

Still not as dumb as this thread, though.
Puns are terrible. If you insist on posting any more livestock puns, I may be tempted to put you in the horsepital.
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Old 08-06-19, 10:40 AM
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Originally Posted by livedarklions
Puns are terrible. If you insist on posting any more livestock puns, I may be tempted to put you in the horsepital.
Apologies for my shear audacity. I'll return to the mane topic at once.
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Old 08-06-19, 10:54 AM
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Ewe are horrible.
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I hate playing Tex Hold 'Em with a pig because I can't read his porker face.
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Somebody going to steer this thread back into the corral?
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Alpaca my things and get out of here.
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Originally Posted by rydabent

This small rant is meant for the very few that think speed, cadence, and the kit, are the holy grail of cycling.
I actually ride for the Grail! I am the cyclist errant!

Who will join me on my quest? Must ride slowly so that we may espy the unexplored nooks and crannies near bike-friendly routes.
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Old 08-06-19, 11:32 AM
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Originally Posted by ksryder
One of the animals was a donkey. His name was Jote. (Spanish pronunciation of the "j".) Donkey Jote.

I love dumb literary puns.
There is a guy on these fora with one leg. His screen name is Juan Foote.


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Old 08-06-19, 11:56 AM
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Originally Posted by livedarklions
I actually ride for the Grail! I am the cyclist errant!

Who will join me on my quest? Must ride slowly so that we may espy the unexplored nooks and crannies near bike-friendly routes.
If you complete five Dirty Kanza 200s you get a custom crystal chalice, which is called the Gravel Grail.

Here's mine. Cutting down the mightiest tree in the forest with a herring was a PITA.

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Old 08-06-19, 01:13 PM
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Originally Posted by livedarklions
bye bye
Yep, Banned before the Ignore.
Well done Mods.

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Old 08-06-19, 02:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Bandera
Yep, Banned before the Ignore.
Well done Mods.

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Thanks for the heads up, because I had him on ignore, I didn't know it looked like I had the gift of prophecy.
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It was impressive though -- 14 days from join date to ban date.
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Old 08-06-19, 02:31 PM
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Originally Posted by ksryder
It was impressive though -- 14 days from join date to ban date.
Banned: literal trope - permanent - sock of banned member
Not impressive at all, just a Serial Sock making a disagreeable noise waiting for the hook to set yet again once more.
BF is rife with Sock Puppets Trolling away. Thanks mods for your thankless work in flushing them out/down.

Now back to the OP's 19th Nervous Breakdown Sing Along:

"You're the kind of rider you meet at certain dismal, dull affairs
Center of a pack, riding much too fast, racing up and down the hills
Well, it seems to me that you never see too much going fast
And though you've tried you just can't hide your Oakleys are edged with bugs
You better stop, look around
Here it comes, here it comes, here it comes, here it comes
Here comes rydabent's one hundred and nineteenth nervous breakdown
Oh, who's to blame, that bent's just too lame
Going slow don't seem to work
It only seems to make matters worse. Oh please......"


-Apologies to Jagger/Richards

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Old 08-06-19, 03:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Koyote
"Something you need to understand"


No, I really don't.
This is kinda my opinion.
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Did I miss something? Did anyone ask, 'Who is this 'we' you speak of, rydabent? Did someone give you permission to speak for him/her?'

I don't object to anyone speaking for themselves, but speaking for someone else without permission doesn't seem right to me.
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Old 08-06-19, 09:53 PM
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Originally Posted by canklecat
Okay. I don't disagree. I think...

That's why when I ride the MUP I regard myself on a conventional bike as lower on the priority rung. I always defer to walkers, joggers, kids and dogs, folks on city bikes or recumbents. The MUPs are designed for casual users, not wannabe racerboys. If I'm in such a big hurry to get somewhere that 15 mph isn't fast enough I'll move over to the city streets. Fortunately the roadie club I hang out with has the same philosophy and we slow down on the MUPs when it's necessary to use it to get from one public thoroughfare to another.

But I'm wondering whether you're reacting to other local cyclists competing for scarce resources, or to perceptions of elitism online. If the former you have a valid concern. Every user of navigable surface way -- including cyclists and pedestrians -- should enjoy those resources equitably.

But if the latter, heck, who cares what people think on cussin' and discussin' forums? They/we don't represent any majority of cyclists. We're just the loudmouths with too much time to waste online.
+1 I basically agree on all points raised.
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Originally Posted by Bandera
Yep, Banned before the Ignore.
Well done Mods.

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Pretty obvious he was. Hence my egging him on. Like shooting fish in a barrel.
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Old 08-07-19, 07:52 AM
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Who's banned? Not the OP. He's active in other threads.
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who's banned? Not the op. He's active in other threads.
literal trope - permanent - sock of banned member
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