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Old 08-05-19, 09:11 PM
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Stuck Foldy Lock Classic Help Please

Video here https://drive.google.com/file/d/1q9P...?usp=drive_web

Hey guys I have a Foldy Lock like this below and been using it for the past year. 3 weeks ago I locked the bike at my gfs house I left it there for a week and a half. So when I went to unlock the key would not turn at all. I did some research online I first tried some specialty bike oil, wiggling it around tried spare keys tried some more oil and nothing. Few days later I came back tried some WD 40 in large quatities nothing. I tried banging the key with in it and no turn. I tried again a few days later and same results. I am getting desperate and donít know what to do? I contacted the company and they told me it has never happened and they sent me a replacement but they canít help remove the lock on the bike. Somebody please help thank you you
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Old 08-06-19, 12:54 AM
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Did you try penetrating oil? It's not the same as lubricating oil. Penetrating oil can free up jammed, oxidized and corroded bits and pieces.

Or, if they sent you a new lock, just cut the one that's jammed. A hacksaw is probably the cheapest.

Or check the Lock Picking Lawyer channel on YouTube, and other videos for defeating locks. You might pick up some tips on non-destructively removing the lock.
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Old 08-06-19, 04:24 AM
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If it wonít turn no picking will do the job. My guess is the cylinder has some corrosion and the pins are hanging up. Try drilling out the core. Alternatively a grinder with a cutoff wheel will simply and quickly do the job.
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Old 08-06-19, 06:26 AM
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Random thoughts about your issue:

I woudn't think that only 10 or so days out in the weather would cause the lock cylinder to freeze up like that. It's definitely a imprecise match between key and cylinder.

Does it feel like the key is going in all the way. From what I see in the video, it doesn't look like full insertion. Of course lubrication and banging would sort this out.

On the other hand, it may be in too far. Try pulling it out just a hair while wiggling it.

Have you tried the key the other way round? I have a key that doesn't work one way but if I rotate it 180 degrees and try again it works fine? Then again, trying 3 different keys like you did should result in success.

It looks like you will just have to cut it off. In doing so you will get a good sense of the degree of difficulty it is, although if it is too easy you may regret having bought this particular lock. Do a video of the removal and post it as a product review to benefit others.

The tough question: Since you've had this experience, can you trust the replacement lock to function correctly. I'd have constant worry, when locking up in public, that it won't work when I return.
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Old 08-06-19, 09:08 PM
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Thanks guys for the advice, the company did send me a New Lock but I am kinda of inexperience of how to cut it up, if I do want to cut the lock I don't know how to without damaging the bike? Its no simple bolt cutter right? Somebody said hack saw? How would I cut the lock with it? ironically bought this lock to prevent theft because I live in NYC and prevent theft because I had cheaper ulock and thieves would always cut it or break it.

Answering to Moe Zhoost, The Key looks like it does go all the way in, I tried the other way around since the key is the same on both sides, I have spare keys (3 Keys in total) for the Lock and I tried those with no luck at all.

Before I tried the last resort of cutting the lock any other recommendations and I do remember it did rain really hard 1 day looks like water maybe has gone inside the lock mechanism. I see someone mention penetrating I did use DuPont Teflon Easy Entry Lock Lubricant & WD40?
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Old 08-07-19, 09:40 AM
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Originally Posted by johny24 View Post

I see someone mention penetrating I did use DuPont Teflon Easy Entry Lock Lubricant & WD40?
No, those are not penetrating oils, although WD-40 does make a penetrating oil. The normal WD-40 is not though.

Liquid Wrench, PB Blaster, 3-IN-ONE, Kano Kroil Penetrating Oil, are all penetrating oils.
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Old 08-07-19, 08:27 PM
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I will try a penetrating oil and see what happens
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Old 08-08-19, 05:38 AM
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Old 08-10-19, 01:08 PM
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Once you take off that lock get rid of the new one they sent you and go out and buy an actual quality folding lock from ABUS. They made the first folding lock and are the only company that can make a good quality lock of any sort. I do not say that lightly, the other lock companies are owned by parent companies or are cheap copies and they use inferior metals and processes to make them. ABUS is owned by ABUS, all of their factories are their own factories producing nothing but ABUS product and they use virgin steel that is tempered and heat treated in their machines to their specifications. ABUS doesn't make locks to just pass lock tests they make locks to keep your stuff locked up and keep working for long periods.

Sadly a lot of lock makers say ok we need a lock that can hold up to 30 seconds of repeated hammer strikes to get a little sticker and then 31 seconds rolls by and the lock is broken because they only needed to just barely pass the test and it is rated the same as a high quality locks. Foldylock in their video uses cheap bulk chain from Home Despot or some place similar and says our lock is stronger in their own video. Of course yes most things are more secure than cheap chains like that, that aren't lock chains and not really designed to stand up to much of any sort of attack because most folks aren't using it like that.
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Old 08-11-19, 03:52 PM
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Not even Abus can provide a key without a copy of the key or the key code. Youtubers seem to be able to break the Abus folding locks pretty easily, no matter who owns the company.
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Old 08-22-19, 07:25 PM
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Originally Posted by philbob57 View Post
Not even Abus can provide a key without a copy of the key or the key code. Youtubers seem to be able to break the Abus folding locks pretty easily, no matter who owns the company.
So Abus locks are no good?? Then what Lock is 🤷🏽*♂️
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Old 08-22-19, 07:35 PM
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All locks are a compromise. Look at enough videos of bike locks being defeated and it's apparent that for most of us it's a waste of money to spend more than necessary.

I settled on a couple of decent, moderately priced On Guard and Kryptonite U-locks. The On Guard is a little heftier and the shackle is a little longer, so it goes on my hybrid/errand bike.

After removing the frame mount clip, the Kryptonite Mini-7 fits in a jeans pocket, inside the waistband of my baggy shorts, or even a jersey pocket with some sagging. I'll take it for some group rides if we plan on a restaurant or pub stop.

If I'm on a bike I don't want to lose, the bike goes with me or I don't go inside. Most of my bikes cost only $200 or so. They're good bikes and I wouldn't want to lose them. But I also don't want to worry so much or resign myself to an overpriced, under-performing lite-lock, or a lock that weighs as much as my carbon road bike.
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Old 08-25-19, 06:53 PM
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I hear ya! its about slowing the thief and making it more difficult...
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Old 08-29-19, 05:39 AM
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An angle grinder will make the job easier. I had a key break off in a Kryptonite Evolution series IV. I went to Home Depot and rented a grinder, purchased the cut off wheel and went to down. Took a few minutes with sparks everyone (downtown Toronto at midnight), no one said a thing. Kryptonite even paid me for the rental and cut off wheel. They would have paid a "professional" to cut it off but it was faster for me to do it.

A friend had a Stokes lock, same deal, key wouldn't work, rented the angle grinder again, already owned the cut off wheel and cut it off. It was actually harder to cut than the Kryptonite. Then I bought my own angle grinder.

Yes, it is scary to cut around your frame, you don't want to slip. Be patient, cut a little a time, take rests in between and you will be done in no time. Good luck.
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