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Old 10-11-19, 03:55 PM
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Is This A Reasonable Forum For New Technology Discussions?

Folks:

I would like to discuss some topics pertaining to technology in bicycling. They are not advertising nor pushing products, but expressing ideas.

Respectfully,

Mark Allyn
Bellingham, Washington
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Old 10-11-19, 05:46 PM
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If you don't have something to sell, a product "under development" or a website to promote, have at it. If it involves a motor, put it in Ebike.
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Curiosity engaged.

I would say, the general forum can be a bit silly at times, as you have a wide mix of cyclists viewing. If the technology is specific to one branch, such as mountain biking or gravel riding, those sub forums will have more members who think like minded... or not
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Discussing new tech in all forums can be sort of frustrating at times. Take 1x tech for example. As soon as you make a post about a 1x9 drivetrain, for instance, you will get some reasonable replies, but they can be drowned out by all of the posters who oppose the very idea of 1x drivetrains. They'll make impassioned arguments in favor of triple cranksets that they've made a lot of times before and will totally ignore the fact that no one asked for their opinion of 1x drivetrains in general.

It happens with a lot of things in cycling, such as gravel bikes. "They're a trick by the industry to make people buy bicycles! Don't be fooled. Because I ride my road bike with 700x28c tires on gravel means that you should too. That much should be obvious to any reasonable person."

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this ought to be good. no offense man, wish you luck, depends on the topic whether you might get some good info
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Old 10-11-19, 07:09 PM
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Originally Posted by maallyn View Post
Folks:

I would like to discuss some topics pertaining to technology in bicycling. They are not advertising nor pushing products, but expressing ideas.

Respectfully,

Mark Allyn
Bellingham, Washington
Spit it out, man, spit it out! We're on the edge of our electronic seats.
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Old 10-11-19, 07:15 PM
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Oh... just keep away from the Classic and Vintage subforum. Those guys.. get awfully nervous around anything < 30 years old!!!!

New cutting edge cycling technology that just came out can be fun.

Ideas on the drawing board can also be fun, as long as you're not too intent with trying to discuss and obfuscate the subject at the same time.
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Old 10-11-19, 07:17 PM
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Please. People on here are still rejecting hydraulic disc brakes...
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Don't be coy, go ahead and start a thread for the first of your topics
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Originally Posted by maallyn View Post
Folks:

I would like to discuss some topics pertaining to technology in bicycling. They are not advertising nor pushing products, but expressing ideas.

Respectfully,

Mark Allyn
Bellingham, Washington
The council convened and we approve your request. It better be good, considering you started a thread just to ask to discuss.
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Old 10-11-19, 08:39 PM
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Cannot guarantee reasonability
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Typical responses you might expect:
  • We tried this in 1982 and we didn't like it so all the people who have been doing it more and more for the last 20 years on mountain bikes are just wrong
  • This is inefficient
  • The problem you are trying to solve isn't really a problem for me, and therefore most people
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Old 10-12-19, 04:44 AM
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As this thread itself has demonstrated in answering your question, if you post something you will be more often than not told why it won't work.
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Old 10-12-19, 10:06 AM
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Originally Posted by maallyn View Post
Folks:

I would like to discuss some topics pertaining to technology in bicycling. They are not advertising nor pushing products, but expressing ideas.

Respectfully,

Mark Allyn
Bellingham, Washington
Originally Posted by livedarklions View Post
Spit it out, man, spit it out! We're on the edge of our electronic seats.
Well...?


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Old 10-12-19, 10:16 AM
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Well...?


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What Work Is Being Done For Serious Non Pneumatic Tires
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Old 10-12-19, 10:38 AM
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“Is this a reasonable forum for new technology discussions?”

Sure, but only if your skin is thick enough to sort through all of the usual curmudgeons and clowns. Far too many around here are convinced their opinions are facts and they’re not shy about letting the world know, so if you’re the sensitive type consider this a warning.

Otherwise, bring it. Thoughtful discussions of ideas both old and new are always welcome to me. There are specific sub forums which might be more appropriate if the subject is particularly narrow, but General offers a lot of latitude.

Welcome to the asylum.


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Old 10-12-19, 12:24 PM
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This is a zombie thread. The OP hasn't been back since.... yesterday. Shame on everyone for failing to notice that, and posting anyway. Don't you feel foolish?
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Originally Posted by CroMo Mike View Post
This is a zombie thread. The OP hasn't been back since.... yesterday. Shame on everyone for failing to notice that, and posting anyway. Don't you feel foolish?
Last night the OP did return to post a second topic on:

What Work Is Being Done For Serious Non Pneumatic Tires

Also with a single post, and a whirlwind flurry of responses.
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Old 10-12-19, 12:41 PM
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Cyclists, in general, are closed minded and image conscious.

So, no.
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Old 10-12-19, 12:50 PM
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Cyclists, in general, are closed minded and image conscious.

So, no.
Yet, over the last 50 years there has been a slow evolution of bikes.
  • Side-Pull Brakes
  • to Center Pull Brakjes
  • to Side Pull Brakes
  • to Cantis
  • to V-Brakes
  • to Dual Pivot Brakes
  • to Cable Acuated Disc Brakes
  • to Hydraulic Disc Brakes
  • .
  • Steel Bike Frames
  • to Lugged Aluminum frames
  • to Lugged Carbon Fiber frames
  • to Welded Aluminum frames
  • to Monocoque Carbon Frames
  • .
  • Wooden rims
  • to Steel rims
  • to Aluminum rims
  • to Aluminum/Carbon hybrid rims
  • to 100% Carbon Fiber rims
  • .
  • 36 and 48 spokes
  • to 32 spokes
  • to 28 spokes
  • to 20/24 spokes
  • to 21 spokes
  • to
  • .
  • Skinny tires
  • to Fat tires
  • to Skinny tires
  • to Fat tires
  • to Skinny tires
  • to FATTER tires.

At this point, everyone's head is spinning, and nobody can agree on what is what.
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Old 10-12-19, 01:22 PM
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Originally Posted by maallyn View Post
Folks:

I would like to discuss some topics pertaining to technology in bicycling. They are not advertising nor pushing products, but expressing ideas.

Respectfully,

Mark Allyn
Bellingham, Washington
becareful it seems most of bf is old retired pleasure riders that don't like change and are happy with the same old same oldf
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Originally Posted by CliffordK View Post
Yet, over the last 50 years there has been a slow evolution of bikes.
  • Side-Pull Brakes
  • to Center Pull Brakjes
  • to Side Pull Brakes
  • to Cantis
  • to V-Brakes
  • to Dual Pivot Brakes
  • to Cable Acuated Disc Brakes
  • to Hydraulic Disc Brakes
  • .
  • Steel Bike Frames
  • to Lugged Aluminum frames
  • to Lugged Carbon Fiber frames
  • to Welded Aluminum frames
  • to Monocoque Carbon Frames
  • .
  • Wooden rims
  • to Steel rims
  • to Aluminum rims
  • to Aluminum/Carbon hybrid rims
  • to 100% Carbon Fiber rims
  • .
  • 36 and 48 spokes
  • to 32 spokes
  • to 28 spokes
  • to 20/24 spokes
  • to 21 spokes
  • to
  • .
  • Skinny tires
  • to Fat tires
  • to Skinny tires
  • to Fat tires
  • to Skinny tires
  • to FATTER tires.

At this point, everyone's head is spinning, and nobody can agree on what is what.
Correct response: Dual pivot brakes, monocoque carbon frames, aluminum/carbon hybrid rims, 20/24 spokes, and skinny tires (with latex tubes) are the best, and any new technology need not be discussed.

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Old 10-12-19, 04:08 PM
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Originally Posted by CliffordK View Post
Yet, over the last 50 years there has been a slow evolution of bikes.
  • Side-Pull Brakes
  • to Center Pull Brakjes
  • to Side Pull Brakes
  • to Cantis
  • to V-Brakes
  • to Dual Pivot Brakes
  • to Cable Acuated Disc Brakes
  • to Hydraulic Disc Brakes
  • .
  • Steel Bike Frames
  • to Lugged Aluminum frames
  • to Lugged Carbon Fiber frames
  • to Welded Aluminum frames
  • to Monocoque Carbon Frames
  • .
  • Wooden rims
  • to Steel rims
  • to Aluminum rims
  • to Aluminum/Carbon hybrid rims
  • to 100% Carbon Fiber rims
  • .
  • 36 and 48 spokes
  • to 32 spokes
  • to 28 spokes
  • to 20/24 spokes
  • to 21 spokes
  • to
  • .
  • Skinny tires
  • to Fat tires
  • to Skinny tires
  • to Fat tires
  • to Skinny tires
  • to FATTER tires.

At this point, everyone's head is spinning, and nobody can agree on what is what.
How about a bottom bracket post?
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Old 10-12-19, 04:20 PM
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Originally Posted by pickettt View Post
How about a bottom bracket post?
You mean Square Taper doesn't still rule?

Isn't the debate on which square taper is best?

Oh... and don't forget the Swiss...
Knives & Bottom Brackets.
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Old 10-12-19, 05:30 PM
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You mean Square Taper doesn't still rule?

Isn't the debate on which square taper is best?

Oh... and don't forget the Swiss...
Knives & Bottom Brackets.
Square taper works just fine.
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