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Old 10-24-19, 03:47 PM
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Are these bars too high?

EDIT: PLEASE SEE THE UPDATED PIC AT POST #38 . I've had that Nashbar touring frame & fork in a box since December 2009 before I decided to start building up the frameset. It's been years since I rode with drop bars. So, I wanted to know, if I install the stem that high, are the bars too high?


I'm also thinking of pushing the saddle a bit forward and turn up the bars a little. This is the 54cm model (which can take the Michelin Cross Max 42mm tires, actually marked 40c lol and 53mm SKS Bluemels fenders I have on there although there isn't huge clearance in the middle of the rear fender). I'm guessing I might have been maybe better with a 53cm but they only had a 52cm (which did not take large tires from what I read) below the 54cm size.

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Old 10-24-19, 03:52 PM
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Um... You are asking bicycle fit-specific questions and all you show us is a picture of the bike? How on Earth are we supposed to decide whether this bike is properly fitted to your body and riding technique by looking at its picture?
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Old 10-24-19, 04:08 PM
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If you're not exceeding any safety limit marks on your equipment then no, it is not too high if you are comfortable.
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Old 10-24-19, 04:22 PM
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Something is not quite right with your fork crown race, unless it's some kind of suspension.
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Old 10-24-19, 05:46 PM
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Imagine a gym full of people doing toe touches. Some can just barely touch their toes, some can barely touch their knees and some can flatten their palms against the floor. Now come up with a single seat-to-handlebar plan that will suit all of those people.
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Old 10-24-19, 05:51 PM
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Oh no, another drop bar thread.
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Old 10-24-19, 06:01 PM
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Originally Posted by hybridbkrdr View Post
I've had that Nashbar touring frame & fork in a box since December 2009 before I decided to start building up the frameset. It's been years since I rode with drop bars. So, I wanted to know, if I install the stem that high, are the bars too high?


I'm also thinking of pushing the saddle a bit forward and turn up the bars a little. This is the 54cm model (which can take the Michelin Cross Max 42mm tires, actually marked 40c lol and 53mm SKS Bluemels fenders I have on there although there isn't huge clearance in the middle of the rear fender). I'm guessing I might have been maybe better with a 53cm but they only had a 52cm (which did not take large tires from what I read) below the 54cm size.
Is it comfortable to you ??...Have you gone for a ride to test it out how it feels ??... Bike fit is a personal thing and it's something that can only be done by you alone by going out for a ride.
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Old 10-24-19, 06:05 PM
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I can't tell if your saddle is too high, either.
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Old 10-24-19, 06:58 PM
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Wow that seat tube seems super relaxed, like 71degrees relaxed. I'm guessing it's an optical illusion.
And that seatpost looks like there is a ton of setback, not sure if it's an illusion.

As for bar height, that has already been answered. Still felt like piling on though, so...how would any of us know if the bars are too high for you?
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Old 10-24-19, 07:13 PM
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The bars are fine, but something looks wrong with the crown race. Shouldn't it be butting up against the head tube?
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Old 10-24-19, 07:21 PM
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Originally Posted by wphamilton View Post
The bars are fine
How did you determine that the "bars are fine" without knowing anything about the rider? Are you psychic or something?

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Old 10-25-19, 05:33 AM
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It looks like the OP is just test fitting the stem and bars. (Note lack of cables.) Yes, the fork isn't fully installed in the headtube and the headset isn't adjusted. You can see that the top tube angle is not right, either.

Personally, I wouldn't have that many spacers beneath the stem. Neither would I rotate the bars back. It's fine in that sense.

Maybe not a setback seatpost, as the seat tube is pretty slack already.

My thoughts. It depends on how you intend to ride this. Leisurely toodling through the countryside? The small seat-to-bar drop is fine.
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Old 10-25-19, 06:35 AM
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Originally Posted by ab_antiquo View Post
How did you determine that the "bars are fine" without knowing anything about the rider? Are you psychic or something?

maybe the OP was asking if that was too many spacers to be safe? As in his question had nothing to do with fit?
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Old 10-25-19, 06:49 AM
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Fitting has to start with getting your body positioned relative to the bottom bracket. That means both saddle height and fore/aft position. After that's done, you can move on to stem length and height.

The stem looks like it's horizontal, so it has a -17 degree angle. Using a huge spacer with this stem angle is not the best way to get the bars up to that height. Use a 0 degree or maybe a +6 and less spacer.

The bar height for a touring bike might be higher than a racing bike, but If you really need the bars that high, then maybe some stretching exercises are in order.
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Try it. If you like it, you're done.

If not, it's possible to move all those spacers above the bar -- looks like that'd drop the bars 3" or so. If the stem is a 4-bolt type, that's trivial to do, otherwise, it might depend on how much slack is in the cables. You can also adjust the bar angle if you like -- it looks good to me, buy YMMV.

All that assumes the bike is properly assembled to begin with (which, as noted, it wasn't when the picture was taken).
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Originally Posted by ab_antiquo View Post
How did you determine that the "bars are fine" without knowing anything about the rider? Are you psychic or something?

He wants to know if there is anything abnormal about his bike's configuration. There isn't - you commonly see bikes set up that way. OP didn't ask about fit.
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Old 10-25-19, 08:55 AM
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Originally Posted by horatio View Post
Something is not quite right with your fork crown race, unless it's some kind of suspension.
Yeah, what's going on there ?
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Old 10-25-19, 09:01 AM
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The seat setback looks ridiculous. Your bum is nearly over the rear axle. And the hoods are past the front axle. WTH
The bike is too SMALL, 56cm at the least.
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Spacers under the head tube? A novel way of adding height and slacking out your geometry. Seriously, that's not right. That seat tube angle would look normal without that gap below the head tube. It looks like it was actually set up this way because the saddle looks fairly level with this setup. Can you explain what is going on with this?
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Old 10-25-19, 09:25 AM
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Originally Posted by wphamilton View Post
He wants to know if there is anything abnormal about his bike's configuration. There isn't - you commonly see bikes set up that way. OP didn't ask about fit.

Again, how do you know he didn't ask about fit? His post is ambiguous.
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Old 10-25-19, 09:27 AM
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With this preliminary setup,

it's hard to imagine why you think you would have been better on a smaller frame.

Bars level with saddle is common for touring bikes.
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Originally Posted by ab_antiquo View Post

Again, how do you know he didn't ask about fit? His post is ambiguous.
Because if you have an ambiguity between a reasonable question and a stupid one, it's generally good policy to go with the reasonable one. Why would anyone assume he was asking if it was a good fit for him if he didn't provide us with any information regarding his measurements?

Google "principle of charity". Unfortunately, about half of all internet comments would be eliminated if people actually practiced it. TL/DR version--don't assume the person you're talking to is an idiot.
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Originally Posted by wphamilton View Post
The bars are fine, but something looks wrong with the crown race. Shouldn't it be butting up against the head tube?
Ah, that is what's causing the seat tube to look so slack too! Nice eye.
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