Go Back  Bike Forums > Bike Forums > General Cycling Discussion
Reload this Page >

DIY Electrolytes Drink

Notices
General Cycling Discussion Have a cycling related question or comment that doesn't fit in one of the other specialty forums? Drop on in and post in here! When possible, please select the forum above that most fits your post!

DIY Electrolytes Drink

Old 11-26-19, 10:32 AM
  #51  
MoAlpha
 
Join Date: Jun 2015
Location: Land of Pleasant Living
Posts: 11,182

Bikes: Shmikes

Mentioned: 57 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 9203 Post(s)
Liked 5,101 Times in 2,719 Posts
Originally Posted by livedarklions
Jeez, when I was a nurse, I met plenty I didn't respect.

I find some of the pretend lawyers apportioning fault in the A&S forum pretty funny.
To be honest, I have met a few bad ones too, like the sadistic one who withheld the patients' bad potassium levels until attending rounds in the cardiac care unit when I was an intern, but I have disliked far more physicians.

Around here, everyone's an amateur lawyer. We go around saying stuff like "dispositive" and "tabula in naufragio" in daily conversation.
MoAlpha is offline  
Old 11-26-19, 10:46 AM
  #52  
livedarklions
Tragically Ignorant
 
livedarklions's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2018
Location: New England
Posts: 15,437

Bikes: Serotta Atlanta; 1994 Specialized Allez Pro; Giant OCR A1; SOMA Double Cross Disc; 2022 Allez Elite mit der SRAM

Mentioned: 62 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 8089 Post(s)
Liked 8,919 Times in 4,966 Posts
Originally Posted by MoAlpha
To be honest, I have met a few bad ones too, like the sadistic one who withheld the patients' bad potassium levels until attending rounds in the cardiac care unit when I was an intern, but I have disliked far more physicians.

Around here, everyone's an amateur lawyer. We go around saying stuff like "dispositive" and "tabula in naufragio" in daily conversation.
I've always liked "eggshell skull" because it sounds weirdly medical.
livedarklions is offline  
Old 11-26-19, 12:17 PM
  #53  
indyfabz
Senior Member
 
indyfabz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Posts: 36,698
Mentioned: 206 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
Quoted: 16968 Post(s)
Liked 12,509 Times in 5,925 Posts
Originally Posted by livedarklions

I find some of the pretend lawyers apportioning fault in the A&S forum pretty funny.
"The motorist should be charged with premediated murder!" is one of my favorites.
indyfabz is offline  
Old 11-26-19, 01:03 PM
  #54  
livedarklions
Tragically Ignorant
 
livedarklions's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2018
Location: New England
Posts: 15,437

Bikes: Serotta Atlanta; 1994 Specialized Allez Pro; Giant OCR A1; SOMA Double Cross Disc; 2022 Allez Elite mit der SRAM

Mentioned: 62 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 8089 Post(s)
Liked 8,919 Times in 4,966 Posts
Originally Posted by indyfabz
"The motorist should be charged with premediated murder!" is one of my favorites.

There's some "it's the bicyclist's fault" all the time people as well. I think we could both predict a few poster's position on who's at fault in any crash without knowing any of the facts.

There's also a couple who just bend over backwards to blame the woman, whether she's driving, riding or walking.
livedarklions is offline  
Old 11-26-19, 04:49 PM
  #55  
MoAlpha
 
Join Date: Jun 2015
Location: Land of Pleasant Living
Posts: 11,182

Bikes: Shmikes

Mentioned: 57 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 9203 Post(s)
Liked 5,101 Times in 2,719 Posts
Originally Posted by indyfabz
"The motorist should be charged with premediated murder!" is one of my favorites.
Ever see the Twitter account ,"Bad Legal Takes?" I understand about a third of it, but it's clear people have very wrong ideas about the law.
MoAlpha is offline  
Old 11-26-19, 05:18 PM
  #56  
kingston 
Jedi Master
 
kingston's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Lake Forest, IL
Posts: 3,719

Bikes: https://stinkston.blogspot.com/p/my-bikes.html

Mentioned: 42 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1758 Post(s)
Liked 479 Times in 309 Posts
I lot of long distance cyclists I know use ENDUROLYTES
80mg Sodium (as Sodium Chloride)
120mg Chloride (as Sodium Chloride)
100mg Calcium (as Chelate)
50mg Magnesium (as Chelate)
50mg Potassium (as Chelate)
0.5mg Manganese (as Chelate)
Doesn't seem like it would be too hard to mix up something similar for a lot less than 40 a dose. I prefer Fritos or a pickle.
kingston is offline  
Old 11-26-19, 05:32 PM
  #57  
Chinghis
Full Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: Southern California
Posts: 445

Bikes: Historical: Schwinn Speedster; Schwinn Collegiate; 1981 Ross Gran Tour; 1981 Dawes Atlantis; 1991 Specialized Rockhopper. Current: 1987 Ritchey Ultra; 1987 Centurion Ironman Dave Scott Master; 1992 Specialized Stumpjumper FS

Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 189 Post(s)
Liked 147 Times in 91 Posts
Sekanjabin: Dissolve 4 cups sugar in 2 1/2 cups of water; when it comes to a boil add 1 cup wine vinegar. Simmer 1/2 hour. Add a handful of mint, remove from fire, let cool. Dilute the resulting syrup to taste with ice water (5 to 10 parts water to 1 part syrup). The syrup stores without refrigeration.
There ya go - Medieval Gatorade. There are other, more precise recipes, but you get the idea. Vinegar for the electrolytes, mint for taste. I've also made it with honey, I think.
Chinghis is offline  
Old 11-26-19, 05:49 PM
  #58  
MoAlpha
 
Join Date: Jun 2015
Location: Land of Pleasant Living
Posts: 11,182

Bikes: Shmikes

Mentioned: 57 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 9203 Post(s)
Liked 5,101 Times in 2,719 Posts
Originally Posted by Chinghis

There ya go - Medieval Gatorade. There are other, more precise recipes, but you get the idea. Vinegar for the electrolytes, mint for taste. I've also made it with honey, I think.
Vinegar may have a trace amounts of minerals, but it is not a source of electrolytes,

Last edited by MoAlpha; 11-26-19 at 05:53 PM.
MoAlpha is offline  
Old 11-27-19, 06:29 PM
  #59  
Chinghis
Full Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: Southern California
Posts: 445

Bikes: Historical: Schwinn Speedster; Schwinn Collegiate; 1981 Ross Gran Tour; 1981 Dawes Atlantis; 1991 Specialized Rockhopper. Current: 1987 Ritchey Ultra; 1987 Centurion Ironman Dave Scott Master; 1992 Specialized Stumpjumper FS

Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 189 Post(s)
Liked 147 Times in 91 Posts
It is a weak electrolyte. Works for me.
Chinghis is offline  
Old 11-27-19, 07:48 PM
  #60  
UniChris
Senior Member
 
UniChris's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2017
Location: Northampton, MA
Posts: 1,856

Bikes: 36" Unicycle, winter knock-around hybrid bike

Mentioned: 15 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 901 Post(s)
Liked 383 Times in 274 Posts
Originally Posted by MoAlpha
Vinegar may have a trace amounts of minerals, but it is not a source of electrolytes,
Not the main biologically useful ones. Works in a battery though.

What the recipe is missing is the sodium and potassium.

Of course in actual medieval times they'd probably have made a weak ale.
UniChris is offline  
Likes For UniChris:
Old 11-28-19, 01:13 AM
  #61  
Metieval
Senior Member
 
Metieval's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Ohio
Posts: 2,772

Bikes: Road bike, Hybrid, Gravel, Drop bar SS, hard tail MTB

Mentioned: 7 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1172 Post(s)
Liked 274 Times in 192 Posts
Originally Posted by Sy Reene
Gatorade also has some flavoring.
Gatorade has LOADS of sugar.
"One 20-ounce Gatorade contains a whopping 34 grams of sugar, 36 grams of carbohydrates and almost 150 calories. "

People are addicted to their sugar though.

Originally Posted by Sy Reene
A canister of Gatorade powder btw equates to about a cost of $.20/bike bottle.. nowhere near $1.
Maybe it isn't about money?
Metieval is offline  
Old 11-28-19, 01:15 AM
  #62  
Metieval
Senior Member
 
Metieval's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Ohio
Posts: 2,772

Bikes: Road bike, Hybrid, Gravel, Drop bar SS, hard tail MTB

Mentioned: 7 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1172 Post(s)
Liked 274 Times in 192 Posts
Originally Posted by noglider
@Miele Man, where do I get potassium?
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...0?ie=UTF8&th=1

or from Swansons, or vitamin shoppe, or Lucky vitamin, or your local healthfood store.
Metieval is offline  
Old 11-28-19, 08:45 AM
  #63  
Sy Reene
Advocatus Diaboli
 
Sy Reene's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: Wherever I am
Posts: 8,278

Bikes: Merlin Cyrene, Nashbar steel CX

Mentioned: 14 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
Quoted: 4498 Post(s)
Liked 1,398 Times in 902 Posts
Originally Posted by Metieval
Gatorade has LOADS of sugar.
"One 20-ounce Gatorade contains a whopping 34 grams of sugar, 36 grams of carbohydrates and almost 150 calories. "

People are addicted to their sugar though.

Maybe it isn't about money?
If you use the powder, nothing forces you use full strength recipe. Further up in this thread you'll find mine. As a recipe starter, I don't see anything wrong with using gatorade as one ingredient.

I never said it was about the money; simply disputing the claim that gatorade costs $1 a bottle.
Sy Reene is offline  
Likes For Sy Reene:
Old 11-28-19, 09:20 PM
  #64  
UniChris
Senior Member
 
UniChris's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2017
Location: Northampton, MA
Posts: 1,856

Bikes: 36" Unicycle, winter knock-around hybrid bike

Mentioned: 15 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 901 Post(s)
Liked 383 Times in 274 Posts
Originally Posted by Metieval
Gatorade has LOADS of sugar.
"One 20-ounce Gatorade contains a whopping 34 grams of sugar, 36 grams of carbohydrates and almost 150 calories. "
You say that like it's a bad thing...

For something to quaff on an ordinary sedentary day, of course, it is.

But of the for intended purpose, the sugar is actually vital - you don't fully absorb electrolytes without it. Gatorade is not (and is not represented to be) the same formula as oral rehydration salts, but the ideas are not unrelated. Gatorade is relatively low on electrolytes compared to the sugar, so I spike it with a nuun tablet or other sources. But as it's its likely going to stay down in those behind-the-curve circumstances where just water would make you hurl.

And the in the cycling context when people are shooting gels and gobbling other carbs, that sugar fits right in.

I wouldn't bother on a shorter or off season ride though. If I'm out all day in summer, my typical progression is water, water with nuun, gatorade with nuun, water with nuun, just water as the sun comes up and then goes back down. Early or late in the season when not sweating as much that typically doesn't get beyond the first or second step,

Last edited by UniChris; 11-28-19 at 09:25 PM.
UniChris is offline  
Likes For UniChris:
Old 11-28-19, 10:17 PM
  #65  
Metieval
Senior Member
 
Metieval's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Ohio
Posts: 2,772

Bikes: Road bike, Hybrid, Gravel, Drop bar SS, hard tail MTB

Mentioned: 7 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1172 Post(s)
Liked 274 Times in 192 Posts
Originally Posted by UniChris
You say that like it's a bad thing...
In the context of replies, I was replying to the context of flavoring. It was no longer about hydration at that point.

Context! more beneficial that ingesting processed and refined sugars.
Metieval is offline  
Old 11-30-19, 07:55 AM
  #66  
Clipped_in
Rubber side down
 
Clipped_in's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Teh Quickie Mart
Posts: 1,754

Bikes: are fun! :-)

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 5 Post(s)
Liked 179 Times in 94 Posts
Originally Posted by Chinghis
There ya go - Medieval Gatorade. There are other, more precise recipes, but you get the idea. Vinegar for the electrolytes, mint for taste. I've also made it with honey, I think.
I'll just leave these right here:


Clipped_in is offline  
Likes For Clipped_in:
Old 11-30-19, 01:35 PM
  #67  
wolfchild
Senior Member
 
wolfchild's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Mississauga/Toronto, Ontario canada
Posts: 8,279

Bikes: I have 3 singlespeed/fixed gear bikes

Mentioned: 24 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 3778 Post(s)
Liked 2,136 Times in 1,101 Posts
Originally Posted by Metieval
Gatorade has LOADS of sugar.
"One 20-ounce Gatorade contains a whopping 34 grams of sugar, 36 grams of carbohydrates and almost 150 calories. "
Hard working body needs calories...Some of my homemade drinks which I bring on my rides have over 400 calories per serving. My homemade energy bars have about 450 calories per serving...I can easily ingest over 1000 calories on a 4-5 hour ride.
wolfchild is offline  
Old 11-30-19, 01:54 PM
  #68  
Senrab62 
It's the little things
 
Join Date: Jan 2016
Location: Chicagoland
Posts: 735

Bikes: Too many, yet not enough

Mentioned: 4 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 256 Post(s)
Liked 276 Times in 127 Posts
Originally Posted by HerrKaLeun
sure, the Standard American Diet is what keeps us alive and healthy.
Huh? No it doesn't keep us healthy.
Senrab62 is offline  
Old 11-30-19, 03:01 PM
  #69  
HerrKaLeun
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2017
Location: Madison, WI
Posts: 1,923

Bikes: Giant Toughroad SLR1 and Motobecane Sturgis NX

Mentioned: 10 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 900 Post(s)
Liked 230 Times in 167 Posts
Originally Posted by Senrab62
Huh? No it doesn't keep us healthy.
I should have included sarcasm marks...

I responded to someone claiming food alon gives us all the minerals we need. That is technically true if we consume naturally grown food that was't bread for other properties (i.e. sweet taste, stickiness for backing etc.). that also assumes we drink natural water with more minerals. Most of today's food is altered for other properties and not for nutrients. For example a modern tomato is sweet, wild tomatoes are not. And the soils get poorer and poorer due to extremely high yields of mono-cultures. Also people drink unnatural water (filtered, often distilled) with way fewer minerals than our ancestors had. (i realize drinking today's surface water untreated wouldn't be healthy either). So our modern diet isn't necessarily great for minerals. And that is before we talk about fastfood and cookies.
HerrKaLeun is offline  
Old 11-30-19, 03:19 PM
  #70  
wolfchild
Senior Member
 
wolfchild's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Mississauga/Toronto, Ontario canada
Posts: 8,279

Bikes: I have 3 singlespeed/fixed gear bikes

Mentioned: 24 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 3778 Post(s)
Liked 2,136 Times in 1,101 Posts
Originally Posted by livedarklions
For the forty thousandth time, different people have varying digestive tolerances during exercise. What you do could be a complete disaster for someone else. I deliberately don't recommend doing what I do on very long rides because it would probably make most people sick. I frequently stop for a pretty big meal halfway into a 140 mile ride. It works very well for me. I'm sure there are people who probably should just focus on carb intake because anything else is likely to make them feel really bad.
I am the same way. I have eaten cheeseburgers, pizza, milkshakes and all kinds of other heavy stuff on my longer rides and never had a problem with my digestion. I function best on "calorie dense real foods"....Energy gels, Gatorade , supplements and other forms of pure sugar just doesn't work for me and I get no energy from eating any of that crap. I need real food which has fats, protein and carbs and then I am all good. I prefer to bring my homemade stuff on my rides but sometimes I will stop and buy something along the way...I don't recommend that other people follow my style of eating, most people would have a gut explosion if they tried eating what I eat.
wolfchild is offline  
Old 11-30-19, 03:26 PM
  #71  
wolfchild
Senior Member
 
wolfchild's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Mississauga/Toronto, Ontario canada
Posts: 8,279

Bikes: I have 3 singlespeed/fixed gear bikes

Mentioned: 24 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 3778 Post(s)
Liked 2,136 Times in 1,101 Posts
Originally Posted by HerrKaLeun

I responded to someone claiming food alon gives us all the minerals we need. That is technically true if we consume naturally grown food that was't bread for other properties (i.e. sweet taste, stickiness for backing etc.). that also assumes we drink natural water with more minerals. Most of today's food is altered for other properties and not for nutrients.
Food alone is enough to give your body all the nutrients it needs, there is no need for any supplements...and no it doesn't have to be naturally grown and organic. Regular food purchased fresh at your local grocery store and prepared at home is all that your body needs. There is also no need to eat a perfectly balanced diet every single day, human body is a lot smarter than that.
wolfchild is offline  
Old 11-30-19, 03:40 PM
  #72  
HerrKaLeun
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2017
Location: Madison, WI
Posts: 1,923

Bikes: Giant Toughroad SLR1 and Motobecane Sturgis NX

Mentioned: 10 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 900 Post(s)
Liked 230 Times in 167 Posts
Originally Posted by wolfchild
Food alone is enough to give your body all the nutrients it needs, there is no need for any supplements...and no it doesn't have to be naturally grown and organic. Regular food purchased fresh at your local grocery store and prepared at home is all that your body needs. There is also no need to eat a perfectly balanced diet every single day, human body is a lot smarter than that.
you don't use salt (sodium) and none is added in the food you eat? That must mean you only eat unprocessed food.

i eat mainly unprocessed food (well, i cut and cook food, which is processing too). i don't know if i really need it, but my supplements I add in tiny amounts are lite-salt (sodium/potassium), magnesium and kelp (for iodide). i just mix it in some regular food I make.
HerrKaLeun is offline  
Old 11-30-19, 06:18 PM
  #73  
livedarklions
Tragically Ignorant
 
livedarklions's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2018
Location: New England
Posts: 15,437

Bikes: Serotta Atlanta; 1994 Specialized Allez Pro; Giant OCR A1; SOMA Double Cross Disc; 2022 Allez Elite mit der SRAM

Mentioned: 62 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 8089 Post(s)
Liked 8,919 Times in 4,966 Posts
Originally Posted by HerrKaLeun
I should have included sarcasm marks...

I responded to someone claiming food alon gives us all the minerals we need. That is technically true if we consume naturally grown food that was't bread for other properties (i.e. sweet taste, stickiness for backing etc.). that also assumes we drink natural water with more minerals. Most of today's food is altered for other properties and not for nutrients. For example a modern tomato is sweet, wild tomatoes are not. And the soils get poorer and poorer due to extremely high yields of mono-cultures. Also people drink unnatural water (filtered, often distilled) with way fewer minerals than our ancestors had. (i realize drinking today's surface water untreated wouldn't be healthy either). So our modern diet isn't necessarily great for minerals. And that is before we talk about fastfood and cookies.
Originally Posted by HerrKaLeun
you don't use salt (sodium) and none is added in the food you eat? That must mean you only eat unprocessed food.

i eat mainly unprocessed food (well, i cut and cook food, which is processing too). i don't know if i really need it, but my supplements I add in tiny amounts are lite-salt (sodium/potassium), magnesium and kelp (for iodide). i just mix it in some regular food I make.

None of this assertion has any basis in fact. If you feel like this stuff works for you, fine. But when you assert other people need to, I call bs.
livedarklions is offline  
Old 11-30-19, 07:49 PM
  #74  
HerrKaLeun
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2017
Location: Madison, WI
Posts: 1,923

Bikes: Giant Toughroad SLR1 and Motobecane Sturgis NX

Mentioned: 10 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 900 Post(s)
Liked 230 Times in 167 Posts
Originally Posted by livedarklions
None of this assertion has any basis in fact. If you feel like this stuff works for you, fine. But when you assert other people need to, I call bs.
There is a chance the supplements are not needed. Especially since I eat vegetables, and liver etc. But since all the food I eat comes without salt, I feel at least salt is needed. Even animals in nature crave salt...

At least I buy the supplements the cheapest way and not in magic bottles.
HerrKaLeun is offline  
Old 11-30-19, 07:51 PM
  #75  
Flip Flop Rider
Senior Member
 
Flip Flop Rider's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2016
Location: South Carolina Upstate
Posts: 2,084

Bikes: 2010 Fuji Absolute 3.0 1994 Trek 850

Mentioned: 3 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 755 Post(s)
Liked 543 Times in 312 Posts
Originally Posted by Metieval
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...0?ie=UTF8&th=1

or from Swansons, or vitamin shoppe, or Lucky vitamin, or your local healthfood store.
the one linked is simply salt tablets
Flip Flop Rider is offline  

Thread Tools
Search this Thread

Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service - Do Not Sell or Share My Personal Information -

Copyright © 2023 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.