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Old 01-02-20, 09:50 PM
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Originally Posted by KC8QVO View Post
What I asked was:


The question was to the group to illustrate how they are able to achieve those numbers.

As far as my riding goes, I was wanting a comparison to see the above, and the other way around - a comparison for those that are hitting high miles the other end of the spectrum (not sure that really matters or is of interest, but the comparison is at least a 2-way street here).

As to my goal for next year - I set that back at 1500. I think that is a reasonable number that fits how I ride. There is no need for competition, other than some riding motivation. What I would like to try to do differently this year is to not loose my riding shape. I am in Ohio and the 2 worst winter weather months are historically January and February = now on. If I can make it through those months with a few 15-30 mile rides that would be great. Even better would be some weekend "day tours" in the 40-60 range. We'll see how it works out.

I did make some gear changes (namely warm boots with SPD cleats) that allow cold weather riding comfort. Down in to the 30's I'm a lot more comfortable. So that right there is a huge bonus for stretching the riding season. I don't know how much colder I could ride, though. If temperatures were in the mid-40's or above I would consider a day tour (lows in the mid-40's, highs 50-60). If highs are in the mid-40's (lows hopefully around or above freezing) then that would hold my miles back to a smaller 15-30mi ride.

Sorry if I misunderstood the point of this thread, but part of the process of getting my miles higher has been getting faster. It's kind of a circular thing, the more you ride the faster you get, and the faster you get the more you can ride in a given time.

Like I said, I keep track of miles because it motivates me a bit to push the speed, but it's all about having a fitness program I find fun.
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Originally Posted by KC8QVO View Post
I have been registered with Strava for years, however I never had a way to upload data to it. I got my Edge 1000 about 3-4 years ago but never had it "set up" with WiFI etc. I started messing around with that this Fall and got the auto-sync to Strava worked out. I actually like having that ability. Before I shut down my Edge 1000 after a ride Garmin Connect and Strava have the ride data.

The other thing of note here is I have my Strava locked down. All I use it for is personal logging. I also like, for the most part, that the data assists the Heat Map creation. I don't care for the "community" aspect and comparison to other riders - which is why I have it locked out. So for data collection for my use and the creation of the heat map it's pretty cool.

I use Komoot because it gives me real time speed while recording my ride. I just find that most of the data I get from Strava isn't what I'm interested in. Komoot is more bare bones, but it gives me exactly what I'm looking for.
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Old 01-02-20, 10:05 PM
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Originally Posted by shelbyfv View Post
If you record on Strava you get both "moving time" and "elapsed time." If you have somehow turned off auto-pause, I suppose that might be different. Normally "moving time" is used to figure average speed. Doesn't mean you have to do it that way. This 59 mile ride was about 30 minutes difference, moving vs elapsed.
Well son of aboich...



The strava data does show "moving time" vs. "elapsed time". I never knew that. Then again, admittedly I have never pulled the data from Strava - only the computer.

What did catch my attention is seeing the speed average drop when I was stopped. That's how I figured out the speed average was based on the total time on the unit.

However, that having been said - according to the ride on Strava - the average speed was 11.2mph and on the computer was 9.64mph. I find that interesting. It does go to support the point I made a few posts up about the last ride I did averaging close to 10mph over a 22mi ride with stops. The point I made was in this example (the same ride with the metrics here) that my ride average wasn't as low as the 7mph annual "average speed" - including the stops. The data here should show that quite clearly.

It is interesting that Strava separates the moving vs. stopped metrics, whereas the computer does not have an option to display it yet the recording source for both is the same. Maybe I am missing something?

For the record, in the trip profile I use I do have the "auto pause" disabled. I don't recall setting that, but that is what it is - off. Because the all up averages are most important to me that is what I will leave it set to.

It is, also, interesting to note that there are slight differences in the numbers between Strava and the computer. The trip time for example - 2 hours, 16 minutes, 7 seconds on the computer vs. Strava showing 2 hours, 16 minutes, 10 seconds for the "elapsed time". The speed average, though, is based off of moving time on Strava and all up time on the computer, so those are different calculations entirely - not just the same result displayed 2 different ways.



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Originally Posted by KC8QVO View Post
I guess the way I consider "ride time" is the time I jump on the bike at the start all the way to the time I get off the bike at the end, over the course of 1 day.

In that example "ride time" is accounting for every second between those two points in time - whether I am in the saddle pedaling or not.

Is there a more usual or customary definition of "ride time" that goes in to everyone's numbers?

I guess that goes back to my first post in the thread and my explanation of the "average" I came up with being, perhaps, "bogus". The reason I call it "bogus" is there are variables in the creation of the time metric in the "average" that invalidate the accuracy of it. All of the "time" (according to how I defined it here - from the time I start a ride to the time I end a ride, no pausing) was not accounted for in my 7mph or so average. I don't think the time not in there, over the course of the calendar year, would shift the average that much, but it would drop. The time commitment, or maybe I should restate that to "time consumption", to "riding" means every slow down on a ride is accounted for. If you have 15 minutes down on a loaded trip to repair a flat that is 15 minutes you don't get back. That is where I wanted to see others' numbers that hit high miles. I still question the time in those high mile reports - what variables are they, and are they not, taking in to account for? If auto-pause is being used - what percentage higher time are those riders actually seeing? (those questions don't need answers, that is just what is in my mind as I compare all the numbers in the thread)



Yep. Quantifying it and comparing it is interesting.

Since we're compiling numbers for our own purposes, there's really no right or wrong way to look at it. To give an example, my sons live about 38 miles from me, so I often ride to where they live, hang out and have lunch with them and then ride home. I definitely pause the timer while I'm hanging out.
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Originally Posted by KC8QVO View Post
It is interesting that Strava separates the moving vs. stopped metrics, whereas the computer does not have an option to display it yet the recording source for both is the same. Maybe I am missing something?
Strava uses it's own algorithms for everything. My moving time on Strava is virtually never the same as the moving time recorded on the device, unless I never come to a stop.
Stop for 15, 20, or 30 seconds, Strava will just tack it back on to the moving time.Yesterday I did my 100km to start the month, and stopped at the bike shop to hang out and eat
lunch about 2/3 of the way through the ride. I was stopped for about an hour, and Strava took 3 and a half minutes of that time and slapped it right back on my moving time.
If you begin to pay attention at all to moving vs. elapsed time, Strava will get creative on you about 95% of the time. That said, I don't want the timer to keep running while I'm
stopped for lunch. I'm not in the middle of PBP. I can stop whenever I want.
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Originally Posted by DrIsotope View Post
When the question is simple, the answer is simple: don't stop riding. Twenty miles a day, every single day will put a rider over 7k miles for the year. I don't ride every day, so I make up by having a per-ride average of around 35 miles.
This. I averaged 4-5 rides a week, average ride distance around 42 miles. I don't do a lot of short rides, if I'm gonna get suited up, I'm usually on the bike for at least two hours, with minimal stops.
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Originally Posted by Notso_fastLane View Post
As noted, I lived in Tucson, where biking 12 months/year is much more feasible than just about anywhere else in the US.
I might have said 8-9 months a year. Saying it's cooler than Phoenix mid-May through mid-September isn't saying much.

Originally Posted by KC8QVO View Post
I am in Ohio and the 2 worst winter weather months are historically January and February = now on. If I can make it through those months with a few 15-30 mile rides that would be great. Even better would be some weekend "day tours" in the 40-60 range. We'll see how it works out.
Of course, you could always move to Tucson!
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Originally Posted by pdlamb View Post
I might have said 8-9 months a year. Saying it's cooler than Phoenix mid-May through mid-September isn't saying much.
Yeah, but I'm one of those crazy people that actually enjoys Tucson summers. I wait until 1-ish in the afternoon in the summer months to go riding. That way, I get the trail all to myself!

And all but the first Tucson-Phx ride I did were in August.
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I am looking over my ride data from 2019 and am setting a mileage goal for 2020. I know there are people that ride in the 7,000+ mile range in a year out there and I am curious how that is possible.

My average speed came out to 7.012mph for the year. This speed is factored off the trip time on my computer vs total miles. The trip time is somewhat of a bogus number because that largely includes stopped time, yet on some rides I did pause it (for example - fixing a flat I paused the trip timer through that period). So the 7.012mph is not a moving average, it is a time vs distance average across the year.

Using that speed average and saying that an average day's ride is in the 8 hour ballpark, for hitting 7,000 miles for the year that would require a bit over 123 days riding - with a mileage average around 56-57 miles per ride.

How is that humanly possible?

Therein lies my question. Those of you that are riding way up there in miles - what do your numbers show? How are you able to dedicate the time to your riding to achieve those numbers?
My biggest year was 14588.4 km (9064.8 mi) but I've done several in the 9-11,000 km ranges.

7.012 mph is 11.3 km/h ... do you take really long breaks?

The minimum total speed (not moving speed) for randonneuring/audax events is 15 km/h (9.3 mph) so first I'd suggest trying to pick up your speed.

Now, using 15 km/h (9.3 mph), to reach 7000 miles, you'd need 753 hours. Riding 3 hours a day, that's 251 days. You've still got another 105 days just in case.
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I had over 11,000 miles this year. Only because for the first time ever, I kept track of inside miles. And I did a U.S. coast to coast race. And long distance is the only bike thing I'm faintly good at. It will be interesting to see where the mileage falls this year, as I don't have the race or that goal to work toward.
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I had over 11,000 miles this year. Only because for the first time ever, I kept track of inside miles. And I did a U.S. coast to coast race. And long distance is the only bike thing I'm faintly good at. It will be interesting to see where the mileage falls this year, as I don't have the race or that goal to work toward.

You did a what race?! Holy crap! How long did that take?
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You did a what race?! Holy crap! How long did that take?
I finished in 28 days, 5 hours and change. It was a (mostly) fun adventure!
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Originally Posted by gif4445 View Post
I finished in 28 days, 5 hours and change. It was a (mostly) fun adventure!

Pics or it didn't happen.

Kidding, I just want to see pics.
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Looks like the Yorktown Monument, so must have been the Trans Am Race? Very nice.
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I've been on Strava for five years and have done no less than 10K miles a year. My high was a little over 13K in 2017. Never again. I am a teacher/coach on the middle school level so I have plenty of time off. But 13K is a lot of miles no matter what. Some of it seemed like work as I rode all but about 25 days that year. I live in Georgia so I can ride all year.

I've got 12 bikes that I split the mileage on, so my rides average wildly from 13 mph to 20+. I did 10,600 in '19 with 266 active days and 487,000 ft of climbing. I am creative in getting my mileage. I will ride a lot of places to meet my wife. Sometimes, I will ride back also. A couple of weeks ago I rode to Auburn, AL. (about 60 miles) to meet her after she did some Christmas shopping. It was about to rain, so I rode back with her.

I'm 57 with no kids so I can ride whenever I want to. That's probably the biggest reason I get so many miles.
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Looks like the Yorktown Monument, so must have been the Trans Am Race? Very nice.
Yes it was.
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Originally Posted by KC8QVO View Post
Well son of aboich...



The strava data does show "moving time" vs. "elapsed time". I never knew that. Then again, admittedly I have never pulled the data from Strava - only the computer.

What did catch my attention is seeing the speed average drop when I was stopped. That's how I figured out the speed average was based on the total time on the unit.
Even better is to install the "Elevate" app plugin for Strava (formerly known as Stravistix): You'd get a screen in the stats that eg. looks like the below -- you'll have Average Speed, plus your "Full Time Avg Speed"

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Originally Posted by KC8QVO View Post
..... How is that humanly possible? .....
If you're wondering how 7,000+ miles a year is humanly possible, try wrapping your mind around 86,573 miles (237 miles/day, average) in 365 days. It was done by Amanda Coker on May 15, 2017 and is currently the Guinness World Record for most cycling miles ridden in a single year. She went on to break the Guinness World Record for the fastest person to reach 100,000 miles, which she did in 423 days; 77 days sooner than the 500 day record (Tommy Godwin, 1939) which stood for 77 years.That's her standing next to me in my avatar. She's the tall one.It was taken the day she broke the 29,603 mile, woman's world record (Billie Fleming, 1939) which she did in 130 days.

My stats aren't quite as impressive. Normally, I do above 10,000 miles (I'm retired) but 2019 wasn't a good year for my cycling stats with 8,005 miles logged. Lots of rained out and other bad weather days, more doctor's visits than usual and getting older (73) had a lot to do with the decline in mileage. I'm keeping my fingers crossed that this year will see a rise in mileage.
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I was able to ride over 7,000 miles in 2016 and 2017. I rode every day of the year in 2017 and ended up with 7,445 miles. I did not get sick that entire year, which is difficult for a school teacher. The last two years I have over 6,000 miles. Spinal stenosis and illnesses kept me off my bike around 30 days each of the last two years.
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My wife and I are both retired and live in Florida, so we ride year round. I'm turning 70 this year and she will be 67. We ride 40 to 50 miles a day, 4 days a week, but on the other 3 days still do neighborhood rides of 6 to 12 miles. After flirting with 10,000 miles for several years, we set to a goal pass 10,000 in 2019. We ended up with 11,178. I think we used the goal as a motivation to get out the door. Not sure what we will do this year. My wife is the real animal. In addition to riding she does several difficult classes at the gym every week, sometimes going twice a day. She also does quite a bit of line dancing. She never seems to get tired and I'm betting could easily ride several thousand more miles than her hubby.
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what i consider high mileage year.

So i use my bikes for primary transportation all the time. I commute every day. If i choose to hop the bus for part of it i still get about 12 miles of riding. if i skip the bus i range between 16-24 miles a day. Also been adding 40-65 mile days every week or two. Last June was a month i wanted to see what i did. I did 543 miles that month not counting short around town rides. My average speeds have been about 10.2 mph for rides longer than 2 hours. I have not kept a perfect log but for 2019 my best estimate is between 2200 and 2400 mile for the year.
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Originally Posted by John_V View Post
If you're wondering how 7,000+ miles a year is humanly possible, try wrapping your mind around 86,573 miles (237 miles/day, average) in 365 days. It was done by Amanda Coker on May 15, 2017 and is currently the Guinness World Record for most cycling miles ridden in a single year. She went on to break the Guinness World Record for the fastest person to reach 100,000 miles, which she did in 423 days; 77 days sooner than the 500 day record (Tommy Godwin, 1939) which stood for 77 years.That's her standing next to me in my avatar. She's the tall one.It was taken the day she broke the 29,603 mile, woman's world record (Billie Fleming, 1939) which she did in 130 days.

My stats aren't quite as impressive. Normally, I do above 10,000 miles (I'm retired) but 2019 wasn't a good year for my cycling stats with 8,005 miles logged. Lots of rained out and other bad weather days, more doctor's visits than usual and getting older (73) had a lot to do with the decline in mileage. I'm keeping my fingers crossed that this year will see a rise in mileage.

Great post, but one question. Why 29,603 miles?
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Bikes: 2022 Trek Émonda SLR 6 eTap, 2018 Trek Domane ALR 5, 1974 Batavis Tour de l’Europe

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I did 8,416 miles last year with 472 hours of moving time. I am semi-retired so have the luxury of riding during the day. I had a split of 60% outdoor (mostly solo) and 40% indoor (mostly Zwift). I try to ride outdoors whenever the weather permits (for me about 50°F and above). This was my first full time year of riding in 40+ years
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