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Old 02-18-20, 04:20 PM
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Rims: without holes

While looking through the site today I clicked on an ad for BlackMax bicycles. Amongst the specs for one of the products was that entry. I donít get it, rims connect to hubs donít they? What am I missing?

https://blackmaxbike.com/products/sa...0b638108&_ss=r

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Old 02-18-20, 06:37 PM
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Some wide rims (bmx and fat bikes) have lightening holes between the spoke holes.

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Old 02-18-20, 07:12 PM
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A rim needs to have at least one hole.
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Originally Posted by Gresp15C View Post
A rim needs to have at least one hole.
Why?

You can use Tannus flat free tires without the need for a valve hole.

My guess is those 20" FAT tire rims don't have the Swiss Cheese holes to make them marginally lighter, but otherwise are standard single-wall rims with spoke holes.

There are a few rims without through holes (except for the valve above) to allow tubeless tires without rim tape. A few different ways to do that. Shimano uses threaded inner holes and no outer holes on their Ultegra and Dura Ace wheels.

Some brands simply have inner holes, and fish the nipples through with magnetes.

Zipp makes spokeless wheels (or monospoke wheels if you wish).
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Originally Posted by Moe Zhoost View Post
Some wide rims (bmx and fat bikes) have lightening holes between the spoke holes.

Yep, this. E bike so no need to lighten the rims and no holes to allow light to degrade the rim tape.
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Old 02-18-20, 08:01 PM
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are those for a tubeless setup?
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Old 02-18-20, 09:09 PM
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Originally Posted by CliffordK View Post
Why?

You can use Tannus flat free tires without the need for a valve hole.

My guess is those 20" FAT tire rims don't have the Swiss Cheese holes to make them marginally lighter, but otherwise are standard single-wall rims with spoke holes.

There are a few rims without through holes (except for the valve above) to allow tubeless tires without rim tape. A few different ways to do that. Shimano uses threaded inner holes and no outer holes on their Ultegra and Dura Ace wheels.

Some brands simply have inner holes, and fish the nipples through with magnetes.

Zipp makes spokeless wheels (or monospoke wheels if you wish).
There's a big hole going through the whole thing.
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Old 02-19-20, 06:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Gresp15C View Post
There's a big hole going through the whole thing.

When it comes to the wheel, that's a hole in the whole, not in the rim.

No real point, I just wanted an excuse to write "hole in the whole.".
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Old 02-19-20, 08:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Joe Bikerider View Post
While looking through the site today I clicked on an ad for BlackMax bicycles. Amongst the specs for one of the products was that entry. I donít get it, rims connect to hubs donít they? What am I missing?

https://blackmaxbike.com/products/sa...0b638108&_ss=r

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Okay, two minutes ago I didn't know and didn't care. Now I'm upset and it's your fault. I think that you should have to buy one of those things, figure it out, and report back to us. This never would have come up if you hadn't posted it.
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Sorry.
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"Rims Without Holes" is actually the title of a self-help book. The notion is that we believe we are flawless and self-sustained, we will win the lottery or something.
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Originally Posted by Moe Zhoost View Post
Some wide rims (bmx and fat bikes) have lightening holes between the spoke holes.

My hunch, my hope, is that it's just a poorly-translated reference to the above, since the bike obviously has pneumatic tires and spokes.

But that mirrored picture of the white bike is really bugging me. Why??
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So, each rim has ONE valve hole, and only ONE valve hole.

The holes for the nipples are only in one wall of the rim.

You put each nipple through the valve hole, fish them to a nipple hole, and then proceed building the wheel from there as usual.

In exchange for this pain, no rim tape required.

(No more confusing than clippless pedals.)

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Can I get tires that never get holes?
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Originally Posted by Gresp15C View Post
A rim needs to have at least one hole.
Yes. A very large one, right in the middle.
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The old "bladeless knife without handle" sale...
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Originally Posted by mr_bill View Post
So, each rim has ONE valve hole, and only ONE valve hole.

The holes for the nipples are only in one wall of the rim.

You put each nipple through the valve hole, fish them to a nipple hole, and then proceed building the wheel from there as usual.

In exchange for this pain, no rim tape required.

(No more confusing than clippless pedals.)

-mr. bill
That nipple insertion process sounds like an interesting way to pass an entire afternoon.
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The old "bladeless knife without handle" sale...
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That nipple insertion process sounds like an interesting way to pass an entire afternoon.
Not anywhere close to as interesting as the extraction process if you break a spoke.

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So I thought I would ask the question on that web site. Got nowhere. Including a 404 when submitting a query. I hereby apologize for all the time and energy wasted by bringing up this issue.
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Eons ago when I was a kid, I remember blank rims at the LBS. The mechanic punched the desired number of holes on them with a special machine.
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So I thought I would ask the question on that web site. Got nowhere. Including a 404 when submitting a query. I hereby apologize for all the time and energy wasted by bringing up this issue.
https://www.******.com/r/cycling/com...holes_drilled/

The mavic ksyrium sl came that way. The spoke had a threaded nipple attached.
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Originally Posted by Joe Bikerider View Post
So I thought I would ask the question on that web site. Got nowhere. Including a 404 when submitting a query. I hereby apologize for all the time and energy wasted by bringing up this issue.

Apology not accepted--making crap explanations up has been way too much fun for you to need to apologize.
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Here you go: https://images.fastcompany.com/uploa...ecfdb38f_o.jpg
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I don't quite get it--are the pedals spinning magnets to drive the rear wheel?
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