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bran1986 04-29-20 10:48 AM

Brake upgrade?
 
After riding more I am starting to realize the brakes on my new Specialized Allez are not the best; I kind of expected this, as most reviews mentioned the brakes as a weak point. The current brakes on the bike are Tektro caliper brakes.

Just curious if I would need to upgrade both the caliper and pads, or if I could get away with throwing on some stickier brake pads?

taco2ewsday 04-29-20 11:45 AM

What's your budget.

New brake pads will be the cheaper first option, compressionless housing brake cable would be a second step and finally new calipers

bran1986 04-29-20 11:50 AM

I don't really have a budget, just looking for something with a bit more stopping power for around town (traffic lights, stop signs, etc.) If I can get away with just replacing the pads, that would be great.

Oneder 04-29-20 12:38 PM

Pads can be very expensive and probably won't do much if there is not good tension. Amazon has one v brake kit for 25 bucks and one for 40 bucks, both are all inclusive. I got the 40 buck one recently but it did't arrive yet. Should be adequate but if not then one shamino btr4000 brake for front or back is 15 bucks more, so still much cheaper than if you got all the parts separately.

JayKay3000 04-29-20 01:24 PM

This is a really good thread on the subject you're asking, lots of ideas - Shimano vs tektro road calipers

I also found the review that in cycling weekly that talks about how the brakes don't have good initial feel. The same review goes on to say the stock wheels are on the heavy side and your shifters are claris so tiagra might be an upgrade path - I added that last bit.

I think your frame has the carbon fork so the frame is shared throughout most of the lineup which means the frame is worth putting money into.

Make sure the brakes are setup the best they can be before needlessly throwing money at the issue.

InvertedMP 04-29-20 01:49 PM

I have a 2020 Allez Elite. I’ve owned it for maybe 2 months. About 2 weeks ago I took the Axis 1.0 calipers off and put on Ultegra calipers. They made a noticeable difference in stopping power as far as braking authority. I had little confidence in the feeling of the stock Axis 1.0s. Ultegra calipers feel so much better, I highly recommend them.

wsteve464 04-29-20 05:20 PM

Upgrade to a disc fork and brakes.

CAT7RDR 04-29-20 05:52 PM


Originally Posted by InvertedMP (Post 21445822)
I have a 2020 Allez Elite. I’ve owned it for maybe 2 months. About 2 weeks ago I took the Axis 1.0 calipers off and put on Ultegra calipers. They made a noticeable difference in stopping power as far as braking authority. I had little confidence in the feeling of the stock Axis 1.0s. Ultegra calipers feel so much better, I highly recommend them.

I had Tektro on my Kestrel and upgraded to Ultegra 6800. Truly night and day difference as far as gripping power on my Aluminum rims. Gave me more confidence in the mountains.

BCDrums 04-29-20 07:30 PM


Originally Posted by bran1986 (Post 21445508)
Just curious if I would need to upgrade both the caliper and pads, or if I could get away with throwing on some stickier brake pads?

You might start with some Kool Stop salmon pads. If they don't do the trick for you, you can use them to improve whatever brakes you put on next.

Moe Zhoost 04-30-20 05:36 AM


Originally Posted by bran1986 (Post 21445618)
I don't really have a budget, just looking for something with a bit more stopping power for around town (traffic lights, stop signs, etc.) If I can get away with just replacing the pads, that would be great.

I've never had to do panic stops for traffic lights or stop signs. Are you saying that your brakes are not up to the gradual slowing required for these devices?

Kapusta 04-30-20 07:04 AM

Biggest changes would come from better pads and compression less brake housing (if that is not what you already have.

As far as getting new calipers, I’ve had Tektro, Cane Creek, and Ultegra calipers. Once they are all running good pads and housing, there is a performance difference, it is not all that much IMO.

bran1986 04-30-20 10:03 AM


Originally Posted by JayKay3000 (Post 21445768)
This is a really good thread on the subject you're asking, lots of ideas - Shimano vs tektro road calipers

I also found the review that in cycling weekly that talks about how the brakes don't have good initial feel. The same review goes on to say the stock wheels are on the heavy side and your shifters are claris so tiagra might be an upgrade path - I added that last bit.

I think your frame has the carbon fork so the frame is shared throughout most of the lineup which means the frame is worth putting money into.

Make sure the brakes are setup the best they can be before needlessly throwing money at the issue.

Thanks for the information. You are correct, this particular bike has the carbon fork. A big reason I purchased this bike is because I felt it was a bargain for the frame/fork you are getting.

I just got the bike a few weeks ago but am already loving it. I can definitely see upgrading to Tiagra or better in the future, but for now the Claris work perfectly fine for me.

Brakes were looked over by the bike shop and myself and seem to be adjusted well.

bran1986 04-30-20 10:07 AM


Originally Posted by Moe Zhoost (Post 21446815)
I've never had to do panic stops for traffic lights or stop signs. Are you saying that your brakes are not up to the gradual slowing required for these devices?

I should have been a bit more clear. I meant traffic lights and intersections in general. I ride in a city that is on a huge upswing and is getting busier by the day. I would just feel more confident with a little more bite if a panic stop were needed.

bran1986 04-30-20 10:08 AM

Thanks for the suggestions everyone. I think I will start with the Kool Stop Salmon pads recommended in here and then move on to the Ultegra calipers if needed.


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