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Old 05-20-20, 08:47 AM
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New Bike Shortage

They are probably a number of posts about this issue, but wanted to take a different approach as I'm new to buying a hybrid for use in Florida. Aren't the bike manufacturers continuing to make new bikes? Going to the various bike manufacturing websites I note how they have none in stock or all sold out. How long does it take to manufacture and replenish their stock? My second thought. One of the reason for the shortage of bikes is because of CV19 and all the people purchasing bikes as it's one of the available forms of exercise. So how many thousands have purchased their bikes and have depleted all the inventory nationwide? But as the manufacturers build new bikes that pool of buyers will not be buying again? They won't buy a new bike every year? Like me, I had a 20 year old GT that needed so much in repairs it was cheaper to buy new. So I'm hoping that sales will be back once the new inventory is available and there won't be the massive pool of bike purchases as what's occurring right now. So when would there be decent deals again? Late summer, early fall?
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They are probably a number of posts about this issue,
There are.
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Aren't the bike manufacturers continuing to make new bikes?
Most, if not all, are made in China and production was shutdown in January.

Most LBS say they won't have new inventory until August.
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Didn't realize the China aspect. What brands are made in China or perhaps would the question then be what brands are not made in China? I will not purchase a bike made in China. I've looked at Specialized, Trek, Fuji, Raleigh, Cannondale, and Scott. All online. Any made here in the USA or even Europe? I'd rather walk then support anything made in China. I know almost everything is made there. But have to start somewhere with not supporting a Country that gave us the Wuhan virus.
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Nothing is made here, everything comes on a slow boat from the far east

Even a custom frame built in the USA is useless without a groupset..,..

4 months is a realistic estimate

It's really unfortunate the USA isn't run by adults anymore, this whole situation was handled much better by other countries
If you won't purchase a bike from China maybe you need to find another hobby.
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Originally Posted by Sunman54 View Post
Didn't realize the China aspect. What brands are made in China or perhaps would the question then be what brands are not made in China? I will not purchase a bike made in China. I've looked at Specialized, Trek, Fuji, Raleigh, Cannondale, and Scott. All online. Any made here in the USA or even Europe? I'd rather walk then support anything made in China. I know almost everything is made there. But have to start somewhere with not supporting a Country that gave us the Wuhan virus.
You can maybe count on 1 finger the number of major brands not made in China.

If you want a made in USA, you'll most likely need a hand made bike from a custom builder.

BTW, my Trek Emonda SLR was a Project One build and the frame was made in the USA... they no longer are.

Finally the way sales are going you soon won't be able to get a bike even one made in China.
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If you can wait a few months, there's likely to be a raging buyer's market in used bikes, as folks who bought now during the virocalypse get bored and sell. Not everyone, hopefully, and if we're lucky there'll be more cyclists in the future to form a greater constituency looking for better/safer roads, bike lanes, and trails.
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Originally Posted by Sunman54 View Post
Didn't realize the China aspect. What brands are made in China or perhaps would the question then be what brands are not made in China?
When time travel is finally perfected, you can go back a couple of decades and pick from a much greater selection of US-made bikes.
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When time travel is finally perfected, you can go back a couple of decades and pick from a much greater selection of US-made bikes.
Don't forget to buy some Microsoft, Facebook and Google stock.
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Originally Posted by Sunman54 View Post
Didn't realize the China aspect. What brands are made in China or perhaps would the question then be what brands are not made in China? I will not purchase a bike made in China. I've looked at Specialized, Trek, Fuji, Raleigh, Cannondale, and Scott. All online. Any made here in the USA or even Europe? I'd rather walk then support anything made in China. I know almost everything is made there. But have to start somewhere with not supporting a Country that gave us the Wuhan virus.
Just out of curiosity, but how long did you boycott American products after the swine flu epidemic (originated on U.S. Pig farms) of 2009?
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Originally Posted by Sunman54 View Post
Didn't realize the China aspect. What brands are made in China or perhaps would the question then be what brands are not made in China? I will not purchase a bike made in China. I've looked at Specialized, Trek, Fuji, Raleigh, Cannondale, and Scott. All online. Any made here in the USA or even Europe? I'd rather walk then support anything made in China. I know almost everything is made there. But have to start somewhere with not supporting a Country that gave us the Wuhan virus.
There was an experiment done a couple years ago, a family agreed not to buy anything made in China for a month during the Christmas season. They wanted to buy their daughter a teddy bear but the only one they could find was a German made Steiff bear that cost $75. They couldnít even find any Christmas lights, they had to bodge together their own from bits and pieces at great cost.

If you want you can probably find something made in Taiwan, thatís not really China and they probably dislike China as much as you do.
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They wanted to buy their daughter a teddy bear but the only one they could find was a German made Steiff bear that cost $75.
Maybe they were a German family? If I wanted a US-made teddy bear I'd get one from Vermont Teddy Bear Co.
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There was an experiment done a couple years ago, a family agreed not to buy anything made in China for a month during the Christmas season. They wanted to buy their daughter a teddy bear but the only one they could find was a German made Steiff bear that cost $75.
Wonder how hard they looked:

https://www.vermontteddybear.com/?ut...demark-Branded
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Sweet. Thereís still the question of where the parts to build the bear are coming from (probably still China). And a $50 bear is still around 5 times more than what most people would care to pay. But itís a nice bear. Technically you could probably avoid all Chinese made goods if you had unlimited income but it would still be a huge hassle.
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I think Detroit Bikes is the largest US frame maker still making bikes in the USA.

https://detroitbikes.com

But if you can wait, there are now so many people out of work that many bikes will probably start showing up at Pawnshops or Craigslist soon.
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Sweet. Thereís still the question of where the parts to build the bear are coming from (probably still China). And a $50 bear is still around 5 times more than what most people would care to pay. But itís a nice bear. Technically you could probably avoid all Chinese made goods if you had unlimited income but it would still be a huge hassle.
The economy is so global at this point if you want to avoid Chinese goods you'd have to make sure you don't own a car (funny when people think gm or ford are "American", any more than a Honda is)

You sure as heck can't have a TV or mobile device, and you can barely even have shoes!

No matter the budget, there's China in your car and your electronics
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The economy is so global at this point if you want to avoid Chinese goods you'd have to make sure you don't own a car (funny when people think gm or ford are "American", any more than a Honda is)

You sure as heck can't have a TV or mobile device, and you can barely even have shoes!

No matter the budget, there's China in your car and your electronics
My Subaru was built in Indiana while a Ford F150 is made in Mexico.

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The economy is so global at this point if you want to avoid Chinese goods you'd have to make sure you don't own a car (funny when people think gm or ford are "American", any more than a Honda is)

You sure as heck can't have a TV or mobile device, and you can barely even have shoes!

No matter the budget, there's China in your car and your electronics
The debate is American worker or American Company, my Honda Accord was built in Ohio vs a Ford Fusion that's built in Mexico even then the parts come from all over the world
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Sweet. Thereís still the question of where the parts to build the bear are coming from (probably still China). And a $50 bear is still around 5 times more than what most people would care to pay. But itís a nice bear. Technically you could probably avoid all Chinese made goods if you had unlimited income but it would still be a huge hassle.
The company has been around since the early 80s. And if oneís criteria is not buying anything that does not have foreign made materials one is going to have very few possessions. My custom ti frame was designed and manufactured 12 miles from my home in Philadelphia and colored by a painter/glazer in the state. No doubt that the tubing came from outside the U.S.

BTW...Take a look at the OPís short post history. Didnít seem to concerned before this thread.

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The debate is American worker or American Company, my Honda Accord was built in Ohio vs a Ford Fusion that's built in Mexico even then the parts come from all over the world
It's easy to cherry pick though; I have GMs built in Ohio and Michigan while my mom has a Honda Fit made in Mexico. All companies are global now.
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The debate is American worker or American Company, my Honda Accord was built in Ohio vs a Ford Fusion that's built in Mexico even then the parts come from all over the world
I remember issues with the spare tire well in those fusions being used to smuggle contraband into the USA

That was before ford killed off all it's cars except the mustang
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Originally Posted by Tacoenthusiast View Post
The economy is so global at this point if you want to avoid Chinese goods you'd have to make sure you don't own a car (funny when people think gm or ford are "American", any more than a Honda is)

You sure as heck can't have a TV or mobile device, and you can barely even have shoes!

No matter the budget, there's China in your car and your electronics
Right, I mean if you want to give up your iPhone and your Android phone and find yourself a nice antique rotary dial you might be able to avoid Chinese made. But then I don’t think any phone company uses old school POTS anymore, they’ve all gone VOIP so I guess you’ll still have to do without a phone. 🙂
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Originally Posted by indyfabz View Post
The company has been around since the early 80s. And if oneís criteria is not buying anything that does not have foreign made materials one is going to have very few possessions. My custom ti frame was designed and manufactured 12 miles from my home in Philadelphia and colored by a painter/glazer in the state. No doubt that the tubing came from outside the U.S.

BTW...Take a look at the OPís short post history. Didnít seem to concerned before this thread.

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I still have a fully American built Trek and Cannondale and reluctantly sold my American built Litespeed a few years back. But even those bikes all have foreign made components and they all make bikes overseas now. Itís just a little naive to be saying youíre going to boycott Chinese products, especially bikes. Nearly impossible to do.
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It's easy to cherry pick though; I have GMs built in Ohio and Michigan while my mom has a Honda Fit made in Mexico. All companies are global now.
I looked at 4 cars in my search Accord (Ohio), Camry (Kentucky), Fusion (Mexico), Malibu (Detroit) I did not cherry pick, it's what I actually shopped and test drove.
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Originally Posted by Sunman54 View Post
Didn't realize the China aspect. What brands are made in China or perhaps would the question then be what brands are not made in China? I will not purchase a bike made in China. I've looked at Specialized, Trek, Fuji, Raleigh, Cannondale, and Scott. All online. Any made here in the USA or even Europe? I'd rather walk then support anything made in China. I know almost everything is made there. But have to start somewhere with not supporting a Country that gave us the Wuhan virus.
You can get custom frames in US and probably stock frames. I don't think DT swiss products are made in china but I may be wrong now.
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I looked at 4 cars in my search Accord (Ohio), Camry (Kentucky), Fusion (Mexico), Malibu (Detroit) I did not cherry pick, it's what I actually shopped and test drove.
The 'made in america' stuff really means assembled in america. The parts are wholly or partly made in china.
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