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Did Chris King throw quick release under the bus?

Old 05-23-20, 09:25 PM
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Did Chris King throw quick release under the bus?

While I wasn't paying attention, it looks like all of the quick-release versions of hubs have disappeared from their website, and their wheel builds also appear to be through-axle only.

Are their any retrofit options, or is quick-release obsolete and dead in the water technology as far as their stuff goes?
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Old 05-23-20, 09:37 PM
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Even a lot of the CO OP stuff is through axle. I don't own anything with it. Do you dislike it?

I know the fascination with vintage bikes with horizontal drops has never appealed to me. Certain skewers don't work properly with vintage roadies and those types of drops.
And unless the bike is higher end why would I want to upgrade it?

Don't know, just thinking.......
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Old 05-24-20, 05:35 AM
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The R45 hubs are still QR and the R45D have a QR axle option. https://chrisking.com/collections/hubs-all
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I bet lack of demand.

in 2020 a QR frame costs much less than a CK hub. Not many people will build a bike that way. At least not enough to justify keeping a production line open.
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“We made the tough decision in 2019 to reduce our assortment to continue making current and forward-facing product. Along with this reduction, we had to make the choice to stop making a handful of headset sizes and hubs.
This quote is from a CYCLINGTIPS article on Chris King discontinuing Campagnolo freehubs, so it wouldn't surprise me if the quick release is going by the way of the dodo for this company.
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A niche (CK) manufacturer discontinues supporting another smaller manufacturers (sorry Campagnolo) design doesn’t mean the end of QR, although, with everyone going disc, thru axles will be the dominant format for a while.

I have thru axles on my mtn bike, and while I understand the idea behind them, QR is just simpler to deal with.

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Originally Posted by dsaul View Post
The R45 hubs are still QR and the R45D have a QR axle option. https://chrisking.com/collections/hubs-all
They have two generations of R45D hubs. I have the first gen, which have quick-release as one option (and 6-bolt disc attachments). The current one is centerlock (a good thing) and appears to no longer offer the QR axle-option:




Ideally, I would like to have hubs that allow interconversion between both, so I could use it on my current bike (from 2014) and future bikes (I agree through-axle is probably better, but what can I do?).

I think through-axles with disc brakes is significantly safer and superior to QR, so I can understand the decision they made. It would be nice if they were backward-compatible in the way many other boutique hub manufacturer's axles are.

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Originally Posted by wgscott View Post
They have two generations of R45D hubs. I have the first gen, which have quick-release as one option (and 6-bolt disc attachments). The current one is centerlock (a good thing) and appears to no longer offer the QR axle-option:




Ideally, I would like to have hubs that allow interconversion between both, so I could use it on my current bike (from 2014) and future bikes (I agree through-axle is probably better, but what can I do?).

I think through-axles with disc brakes is significantly safer and superior to QR, so I can understand the decision they made. It would be nice if they were backward-compatible in the way many other boutique hub manufacturer's axles are.
100 x 9mm is QR
The rear has an option for 135 x 10mm, which is also QR

The print on the left side of the page specifies that they are convertible between QR and thru axle.
"Easily convertible axles 100mm x 9mm QR or 100mm x 12mm thru axle front options."

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Originally Posted by dsaul View Post
100 x 9mm is QR
The rear has an option for 135 x 10mm, which is also QR
Oh. Sorry.

That is good news.

I should have looked at that more carefully. (For the built-up wheels, they don't offer the option on the web page.)

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White Industries is still making QR stuff and Paul Components is still making some really nice QR skewers. If CK leaves you out in the cold WI has your back.
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