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Old 07-04-20, 01:04 PM
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Zip Ties on New Bike

Iíve been out of cycling for almost 20 years and bought a new Marin Muirwoods from a local bike shop. Once I got home I noticed zip ties are used for holding cables in place. I understand that for $800 it isnít a top of the line model. However, I am a little surprised at using zip ties for holding cables is normal for this price range. Maybe it is, I do t know. Is it?
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It's to hold full-length housings. Not a bad thing, it works.
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Do those zip ties go through bosses or around a frame tube? I think zip ties going through bosses are great. Good zip ties will last a loooooong time and being used like this makes cable maintenance/changing easy breezy.
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Originally Posted by woodcraft View Post
It's to hold full-length housings. Not a bad thing, it works.
Duct tape would work too, but it's pretty naff, cheap and nasty.

And disappointing. But probably should have noticed this before buying.
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Originally Posted by DwightChris49 View Post
Iíve been out of cycling for almost 20 years and bought a new Marin Muirwoods from a local bike shop. Once I got home I noticed zip ties are used for holding cables in place. I understand that for $800 it isnít a top of the line model. However, I am a little surprised at using zip ties for holding cables is normal for this price range. Maybe it is, I do t know. Is it?
I've got the 2017 Muirwoods in all black that i've re-geared and converted to a grocery/hauler. It has the same zip ties for the housed cables and hydraulic lines.

If you ever have to replace one, make sure you get the same thick sized zip-ties. I replaced a missing zip-tie for the hydraulic brake tube and got a serious kink the nearly cut the hydraulic tubing-- the narrow zip-tie I had used as a replacement was cutting into, and kinking the tubing. Luckily, a mechanic caught the hazard during a tune-up, and an on-the-road disaster was averted.
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Old 07-04-20, 02:02 PM
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That is pretty normal now. Are they mounted on a sticky back?
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Old 07-04-20, 02:29 PM
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Originally Posted by FiftySix View Post
Do those zip ties go through bosses or around a frame tube? I think zip ties going through bosses are great. Good zip ties will last a loooooong time and being used like this makes cable maintenance/changing easy breezy.
The zip ties go through bosses. Iím sure theyíll last a long time. I wouldnít have noticed if one the ties wasnít too large and unable to grip the brake fluid tube.
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Old 07-04-20, 02:33 PM
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Originally Posted by ridelikeaturtle View Post
Duct tape would work too, but it's pretty naff, cheap and nasty.

And disappointing. But probably should have noticed this before buying.
Duct tape will work. However I prefer bailing wire as it doesnít leave residue when removed.

Youíre right. This would have been a good thing to notice before I paid for it. I was so excited to actually fine a bike in my size I may have bought it missing a wheel.
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Old 07-04-20, 02:41 PM
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Originally Posted by AllWeatherJeff View Post
I've got the 2017 Muirwoods in all black that i've re-geared and converted to a grocery/hauler. It has the same zip ties for the housed cables and hydraulic lines.

If you ever have to replace one, make sure you get the same thick sized zip-ties. I replaced a missing zip-tie for the hydraulic brake tube and got a serious kink the nearly cut the hydraulic tubing-- the narrow zip-tie I had used as a replacement was cutting into, and kinking the tubing. Luckily, a mechanic caught the hazard during a tune-up, and an on-the-road disaster was averted.
Thank you so much for replying. The tie on the front brake tube seems to be too large and the zip tie ďclipĒ is wider than the tube and doesnít hold the tube snugly and it rube the spokes.
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Old 07-04-20, 03:35 PM
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Originally Posted by woodcraft View Post
It's to hold full-length housings. Not a bad thing, it works.
Agreed, my SuperX has the hydro hose to the rear hose on with zip ties through the bosses.
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Old 07-04-20, 05:00 PM
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Pretty standard on external hydro rake hoses saves bleeding new systems when building the bike. You can also get little pincer "C" clips


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One of the wires on my Di2-equipped bike is held to the frame with a very small zip tie. And that bike cost a bit more than $800. About 10x more.

Doesn't bother me a bit.
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Old 07-04-20, 08:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Koyote View Post
One of the wires on my Di2-equipped bike is held to the frame with a very small zip tie. And that bike cost a bit more than $800. About 10x more.

Doesn't bother me a bit.
Many times a few zip ties are placed as spacers so the wires don't rattle inside the down tube. We don't have that probel with Sram eTap
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Wait they are using a product designed to tie cables together to do just that? How dare they!

Personally zip ties don't really bother me unless uncut but with a good pair of nail clippers you can cut them easily and cleanly.
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Old 07-05-20, 06:25 PM
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Yeah... it was just a question. I got the point, itís a normal thing. Gotcha, understood. Thanks.
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Yeah... it was just a question. I got the point, itís a normal thing. Gotcha, understood. Thanks.
You can change the ziptie colors to match or compliment frame colors.

The little plastic C clamps that can hold housing and hoses are, to me, worse than zipties because they too easily unhook from the cable guides.

Just make sure the zipties are attached so the cut end us facing down/tucked under the hose. If the cut end is exposed, it can rub against a leg and cause annoying scratches.

Yes it seems low quality to ziptie housing and hoses to a frame, but its common and works well.
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Old 07-05-20, 10:10 PM
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Thank you. In a former life, I worked with cables and made my own looms. I carried an extra nail clipper for this exact purpose. I also remember when I came across looms that werenít trimmed. Ouch.
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