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Old 07-29-20, 12:29 PM
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best LEAST stiff shoes

looking for the least stiff shoes. currently riding fitzik x5 leading to metatarsal pain. CLIPLESS

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Old 07-29-20, 12:36 PM
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those shoes with separated toes like vibram 5 fingers ?
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Old 07-29-20, 12:37 PM
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Keds. Or whatever the latest, most fashionable sneaker is.

Trouble is, you'll be miserable on anything smaller than a large platform pedal. Which is fine if that's what you want. But if you're clipping into your pedals, that not-stiff sole is going to wrap around the pedal, and you're going to feel like your feet are on fire after 20 miles.

Perhaps you make sure your current shoes are wide enough for your feet at the balls of your foot. If possible, loosen the forward strap(s) to give your feet more room.
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Old 07-29-20, 12:41 PM
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CLIPLESS sorry
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Old 07-29-20, 12:46 PM
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Nope.. maybe hike-a-bike MTB shoes...
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Old 07-29-20, 01:52 PM
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What's causing the pain? 'Metatarsal pain' isn't descriptive enough.

If it's pressure of foot on pedal, you need more surface area than SPD cleats provide. That means flat pedals like the Ergons that have been mentioned, pinned flat pedals like DMR V12s and a whole lot of other pedals, Speedplays, which claim to have more surface area than clipless pedals, or maybe road shoes and pedals.

I think a stiffer sole will also help reduce pressure (pounds/square inch, etc.). If I were riding clipped in, I think I'd want Bont shoes - the stiffest shoe I've used was the cheapest Bont, and I imagine their more expensive shoes are even stiffer, but I expect all the high end maker make stiff shoes.

I'll tell you, though: I rode with stiff shoes, toe clips, straps, and sometimes cleats, and I like modern pinned flats and Five Ten Freeriders better, because my feet feel better with the modern solution.
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Old 07-29-20, 02:10 PM
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ok thanks. I am not sure what is causing the pain. it was my most recent bike read about 5 days ago. i think i probably pedal too much with my feet.

AHA, i had it all wrong. yes i need a stiffer shoe to help. currently using a FITZIK TERRA X5. i do not want a flat pedal. I am using DMR V twins.

any suggestions other than Bonta?
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Old 07-29-20, 02:21 PM
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Try some ProFoot Miracle insoles. They cost only $8-$10 at Walgreen's. I use 'em in my Fizik and Scott clipless road shoes. Immediately resolved some metatarsal hot-foot pain I experienced during long or harder effort rides. Much better than the original insoles included with those shoes, including Scott's fancy looking insole with detachable pads for the metatarsal, arches, etc.
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Originally Posted by finnstones View Post
ok thanks. I am not sure what is causing the pain.
I had metatarsal pain last year as well. The first thing you need to do is see a podiatrist. The second thing you need to do is to buy an orthotic insole specifically designed to relief metatarsal pain. I use this Lynco insole:

notice that there is a bump on the insole that goes just behind the ball of your second toe. There are also peel-off spots to relieve pressure on whichever spot has the issue (typically the ball if your second tie)
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Old 07-30-20, 02:43 PM
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Originally Posted by philbob57 View Post
If it's pressure of foot on pedal, you need more surface area than SPD cleats provide.
The foot only knows about the what the sole is doing. Unless a less-than-stiff sole is deforming, the size of the pedal contact doesn't matter.
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My bet is that most soles that are in use on bicycles deform to some degree. At least that's what marketers say - one of the differentiators between models is stiffness.
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Mountain biking shoes, with Bontrager inserts.
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Old 07-31-20, 06:25 AM
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Originally Posted by BlazingPedals View Post
The foot only knows about the what the sole is doing. Unless a less-than-stiff sole is deforming, the size of the pedal contact doesn't matter.
that's a really interesting comment! compared to SPD 2 hole small little cleat, i would think these SPD-SL cleats on shoe are much more helpful as they spread force across wider area of the foot, albeit sitll mostly on the metatarsals.

I could also argue that the DMR V-Twin pedal while a wide platform does not matter because the surface area is rendered pointless by the cleat which to a significant degree is mostly the only point of contact during biking?
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Originally Posted by finnstones View Post
I could also argue that the DMR V-Twin pedal while a wide platform does not matter because the surface area is rendered pointless by the cleat which to a significant degree is mostly the only point of contact during biking?
The large cage on the DMR pedal is for when you're using 'regular' street shoes.
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