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Old 08-03-20, 10:45 AM
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Trek better than Cervelo?

Is Trek considered a better bike than Cervelo? I'm looking at a Trek Domane SL7 Di2 and the new Cervelo Caledonia Di2. The specs are pretty similar but the Caledonia is $1500 cheaper than the Trek. Haven't been real impressed with my Domane SL5 as I have had problems right from the start with it. My LBS has been great and eventually got it straightened out. I bought a Trek because that is what my LBS sold in my price range. I'd like to move up to Di2 and I'm looking at these bikes. The price makes the Caledonia very attractive. I'm pretty new to cycling and not all that knowledge about the different brands. Any thoughts are appreciated.
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Old 08-03-20, 11:09 AM
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Ride both and buy the one that fits best.
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Old 08-03-20, 11:16 AM
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It's a frame & fork with same (?) component parts .. After sale support ? Trek has a lot more retail dealers.. ..

Seems your issue is with the dealer, not the bike brand..






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Old 08-03-20, 11:25 AM
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Tough call since the Caledonia's pretty new, but I've been extreeeemly happy with my R3. Looking at the bikeradar "pre-review" -- looks like they've done some really smart mods to the R design. Have to agree w/ Glenn, above, nonetheless, fit is paramount. If you don't notice much difference, then buy the one you think is cooler - the second most important factor.
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Old 08-03-20, 11:28 AM
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Personally I would pass on any bike with a press-fit bottom bracket. That is my opinion based on experience and feed back from close friends.

What is so compelling about Di2?

That money over mechanical could go into better wheels which are generally pretty poor on complete bikes.
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Old 08-03-20, 02:55 PM
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Originally Posted by fietsbob View Post
It's a frame & fork with same (?) component parts .. After sale support ? Trek has a lot more retail dealers.. ..

Seems your issue is with the dealer, not the bike brand..






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No problem with the dealer, they've been great. Just asking if Trek is considered a better bike than Cervelo and of course I'd ride both before buying.
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Old 08-03-20, 03:06 PM
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"Better" is an Opinion, you are welcome to form your own..


My LBS sells Trek since 88, but nobody here has Carbon Di 2 kind of money ..
Or, if they got more than basic $ they go eBike electric assist, instead.




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Old 08-03-20, 03:11 PM
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I'd go with the Cervelo Caledonia & dump the savings into accessories, new wheels, & a nice tall glass of your choice of beverage.
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Old 08-03-20, 03:33 PM
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"Better" is an Opinion, you are welcome to form your own..
Yes it is. I was hoping to get some input from those more knowledgeable than myself
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Old 08-03-20, 03:34 PM
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I'd go with the Caledonia, with Ultegra mechanical. Then upgrade the wheels.
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I would say they are equal bikes in quality. Trek however will give you much more reliable service. Cervelo is not a big brand for any independent retailer.

They are both mid-quality bikes that in either case would be great to own but if you get the Cervelo and the bottom bracket creaks, you will regret not keeping the Domane or getting another with a threaded bottom bracket.

Look at Specialized too.
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How is your Cervelo dealer? Your prior trek had problems but the dealer helped to get things worked out. Would your Cervelo dealer do the same? How hard are you on bikes? I have heard bad stories of people having to work with Cervelo regarding damaged frames. Not so much with Trek. Also, Trek appears to have dropped the price on the Trek Domane SL7 Di2 making it about $500 above the Cervelo.
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Originally Posted by Mulberry20 View Post
I would say they are equal bikes in quality. Trek however will give you much more reliable service. Cervelo is not a big brand for any independent retailer.

They are both mid-quality bikes that in either case would be great to own but if you get the Cervelo and the bottom bracket creaks, you will regret not keeping the Domane or getting another with a threaded bottom bracket.

Look at Specialized too.
If the bicycle has no major quality build issues within a season of riding, it would be safe to rely on it for a longer timeframe. TREK may be bigger as a business, but they have not shown me that they are superior than a smaller business when it comes to needing help with the products they've sold. If anything, a smaller business is likely to work harder to satisfy a customer or potential customer in order to established a good name for themselves.
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I'm more a hand made steel frame & fork fan myself..
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Old 08-03-20, 05:12 PM
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I'm still seeing $6000 for the Trek and $4500 for the Cervelo. The Trek has carbon wheels and threaded bottom bracket. I'd be tempted to investigate, see if one of the threaded conversions is available for the Cervelo. If the price difference actually has come down to $500, it would be worth that for the threaded BB alone, IMO.
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Old 08-03-20, 05:41 PM
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Originally Posted by vespasianus View Post
How is your Cervelo dealer? Your prior trek had problems but the dealer helped to get things worked out. Would your Cervelo dealer do the same? How hard are you on bikes? I have heard bad stories of people having to work with Cervelo regarding damaged frames. Not so much with Trek. Also, Trek appears to have dropped the price on the Trek Domane SL7 Di2 making it about $500 above the Cervelo.
Same dealer for both. Sounds like Trek is the safer buy.
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Old 08-03-20, 05:48 PM
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Are you in northern NJ? If so Garrisons in Wilmington can’t be beat for Cervelo
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Are you in northern NJ? If so Garrisons in Wilmington cant be beat for Cervelo
I'm in northwest NJ
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Originally Posted by Gundo View Post
Same dealer for both. Sounds like Trek is the safer buy.
In some ways yes. You could have an honest conversation with your dealer. My wife works at a tri shop that deals with Cervelo and she has mentioned issues to me...
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In some ways yes. You could have an honest conversation with your dealer. My wife works at a tri shop that deals with Cervelo and she has mentioned issues to me...
That's good to know, thanks.
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Originally Posted by Troul View Post
If the bicycle has no major quality build issues within a season of riding, it would be safe to rely on it for a longer timeframe. TREK may be bigger as a business, but they have not shown me that they are superior than a smaller business when it comes to needing help with the products they've sold. If anything, a smaller business is likely to work harder to satisfy a customer or potential customer in order to established a good name for themselves.
Bottom bracket issues are not build issues rather design issues. It is a certainty that they will creak it just depends on when. Could be in a few weeks could be in a few months could be next year but it will happen.

I hear it every night riding around Central Park. If I go to the dark side and get a carbon bike I will only get a Specialized, Pinarello or Trek.
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I'm still seeing $6000 for the Trek and $4500 for the Cervelo. The Trek has carbon wheels and threaded bottom bracket. I'd be tempted to investigate, see if one of the threaded conversions is available for the Cervelo
Once the Cervelo provided BB is worn, bite the bullet and put a good one piece press fit in there... Done.
Bond it in with Loctite 641 Retaining Compound.
The Rotor I took out was a two piece with a plastic sleeve in the middle. Yuk.

I did just that and now I can pop just the sealed bearings out and replace them in 10mins should I ever need to.

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You may want to think about just upgrading the components on your Trek SL5 to Di2. The difference between the SL5 and 7 are the components and the wheelset. If you sell the SL5 you are going to take a hit on it, so that is money thrown away. Then you add the price difference between the two bikes and that is a chunk of change. It may be more cost effective to upgrade.

I am/was in similar predicament with my SL6. The mechanical is great but Di2 is better so I waited for deals and purchased everything I need to convert my SL6 to a SL7 (minus the wheels). Currently I am just awaiting the wiring which should arrive this week and then I will start the conversion myself. The Trek manual lays everything out for installation including which length of wiring to purchase. In the end it will be cheaper for me to do it this way then to try and sell my bike etc. It was cheaper for me to do it this way.

This option is not for everyone and may not work for you but it may when you start adding up the costs. Good luck in whatever you decide.
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good move on the upgrade to Di2. You won't regret it. No one ever does.
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Cervelo are no longer located in Toronto or owned by the original owners.

Founded by Gerard Vrooman and Phil White, engineering students at McGill University in Montreal, the company was sold to the Dutch-based Pon Holdings in 2012, but the headquarters and design facility stayed in Toronto on Leswyn Road in Toronto. Both founders left the company, and now the last remaining Canadian connection is gone.

Most of their manufacturing has moved to China resulting in lower quality control. Their reputation has taken a little bit of a hit. Some of the bottom bracket issues are due to irregular ovals for the cavity housing the bottom bracket.
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