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08-18-20, 01:50 PM
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Originally Posted by rydabent
When people argue over bike brands they have to understand that a half dozen mfg in the world make 99% of bike frames. Those mfg get in orders from the different brands, weld up a frame and paint it with the name of the bike company that ordered it. They for the most part are all the same bike with different paint and name on them.
A contract manufacturer will have many levels of quality they are capable of and which is followed depends on cost and oversight.
You are completely incorrect when you claim they are for the most part all the same.
08-18-20, 01:55 PM
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Originally Posted by rydabent
When people argue over bike brands they have to understand that a half dozen mfg in the world make 99% of bike frames. Those mfg get in orders from the different brands, weld up a frame and paint it with the name of the bike company that ordered it. They for the most part are all the same bike with different paint and name on them.
08-18-20, 02:00 PM
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Originally Posted by mstateglfr
The point was to share a news article with everyone. I read this article earlier today and found it interesting since I like hearing about global supply chains.
08-18-20, 02:28 PM
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Originally Posted by ZHVelo
And yet he someone barely discussed what the article is about or what his own thoughts are.
A good example of sharing an article with little discussion on the part of the OP:
NYT Article: 3 Teens, Teacher Currently Biking Across U.S.
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08-18-20, 02:42 PM
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Originally Posted by ZHVelo
And OP followed up on none of that in his OP beyond "no manufacturing in the US any time soon, but in Hungary ('oh my God stop the presses why not US but Hungary')".
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08-18-20, 02:49 PM
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Spam is an attempt to promote a product by posting a link. As paid for by the owner of the link. It doesn't apply in this case at all. Not sure why we can't discuss the article and drop the other nonsense.
If we could somehow divine a legit poster from a spammer, we wouldn't have the limits on posting pics or links. But there are dormant accounts on this site that were made in preparation for posting spam, it happens sometimes that they get activated years later. But most people can figure out how to get to 10 posts in 2 days, so we're keeping the rules. I have had to delete spam post by post back in the bad old days because the system only lets moderators delete 50 posts at a time. I'm immune to complaints about it.
If we could somehow divine a legit poster from a spammer, we wouldn't have the limits on posting pics or links. But there are dormant accounts on this site that were made in preparation for posting spam, it happens sometimes that they get activated years later. But most people can figure out how to get to 10 posts in 2 days, so we're keeping the rules. I have had to delete spam post by post back in the bad old days because the system only lets moderators delete 50 posts at a time. I'm immune to complaints about it.
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08-18-20, 02:51 PM
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Originally Posted by indyfabz
It’s not SPAM by BF rules. Let it go.
A good example of sharing an article with little discussion on the part of the OP:
NYT Article: 3 Teens, Teacher Currently Biking Across U.S.
A good example of sharing an article with little discussion on the part of the OP:
NYT Article: 3 Teens, Teacher Currently Biking Across U.S.
I read OP's post as saying "Obviously I don't know much about the industry, but this is interesting". I don't see anything wrong with that. OP admitted never having heard of Giant, so wasn't claiming to be some sort of savant with a lot to say on the subject.
Generally, I like "here's an article, what do you think of it" threads, except when they're about cyclists getting killed. That always degenerates into a pointless "who's at fault" fight.
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08-18-20, 03:00 PM
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Originally Posted by indyfabz
My Surly touring bike is 60cm. Does that make it a giant bike?
08-18-20, 03:02 PM
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Originally Posted by livedarklions
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Where else but the internet can a bunch of cyclists go and be the tough guy? - - jdon
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Originally Posted by ZHVelo
And OP followed up on none of that in his OP beyond "no manufacturing in the US any time soon, but in Hungary ('oh my God stop the presses why not US but Hungary')".
Originally Posted by ZHVelo
And yet he someone barely discussed what the article is about or what his own thoughts are.
Lighten up, man, you're getting all wound up over nothing.
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Giant also has the ability to weave the cf thread into sheets of whatever design/strength they need for the frame's purpose.
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08-18-20, 06:52 PM
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Originally Posted by indyfabz
My Surly touring bike is 60cm. Does that make it a giant bike?
08-18-20, 08:15 PM
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Originally Posted by fietsbob
6'11" Bill Walton's Bike is Bigger...
08-18-20, 11:47 PM
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Originally Posted by indyfabz
It’s not SPAM by BF rules. Let it go.
A good example of sharing an article with little discussion on the part of the OP:
NYT Article: 3 Teens, Teacher Currently Biking Across U.S.
A good example of sharing an article with little discussion on the part of the OP:
NYT Article: 3 Teens, Teacher Currently Biking Across U.S.
08-18-20, 11:48 PM
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Originally Posted by BillyD
You've been here just four freaking months, and you arrived during a pandemic. Have you been quarantined? Tested?
Lighten up, man, you're getting all wound up over nothing.
Lighten up, man, you're getting all wound up over nothing.
08-18-20, 11:49 PM
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Originally Posted by livedarklions
As opposed to all your fascinating posts on why we shouldn't like what OP posted?
08-19-20, 01:22 AM
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This is like the time some guy here attacked me as being unreasonable for using math (theoretical nonsense!) to show that pairing an 11-40 cassette with a 30-39-50 road triple might not be a great idea. Any reasonable person would just use certain gearing combos and would never inadvertently make a shift in error. I still regret not enthusiastically agreeing with him and telling the OP to listen to that guy. Seriously, when posting on forums, people will find any reason to have an argument, even if one doesn't really exist.
08-19-20, 03:18 AM
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Originally Posted by fietsbob
6'11" Bill Walton's Bike is Bigger...
https://www.sbnation.com/nba/2011/11...ke-found-photo
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Originally Posted by ZHVelo
lmfao I asked him what the point was, he could have elaborated if he wanted...he never did
Tell you what, why don't you maybe post something about the article or its subject rather than endlessly campaigning against op? No one is buying it, let it go.
Interesting thing in that article is that the CEO of Giant is being careful about adding production capacity because she expects this bike boom to go bust fairly soon. Got any feelings about that? How easy or hard is it to get a bike where you are right now?
08-19-20, 06:44 AM
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Originally Posted by livedarklions
That accounts for your first post. How many posts do you have in this thread?
Tell you what, why don't you maybe post something about the article or its subject rather than endlessly campaigning against op? No one is buying it, let it go.
Interesting thing in that article is that the CEO of Giant is being careful about adding production capacity because she expects this bike boom to go bust fairly soon. Got any feelings about that? How easy or hard is it to get a bike where you are right now?
Tell you what, why don't you maybe post something about the article or its subject rather than endlessly campaigning against op? No one is buying it, let it go.
Interesting thing in that article is that the CEO of Giant is being careful about adding production capacity because she expects this bike boom to go bust fairly soon. Got any feelings about that? How easy or hard is it to get a bike where you are right now?
08-19-20, 06:48 AM
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Originally Posted by zhvelo
that was exactly my point - there was absolutely nothing constructive about that post. A link to an article and then the rest was so random there was no point to it.
To clarify: Consider the last sentence of the op, seems a bit off to complain about that, and may have something to do with him having so few posts anyway. Then the rest is about giant that op didn't know was the largest (ok, great) and then something about manufacturing not in the us (why would it be, a taiwanese company has no reason to produce in the us when even us giants, pun intended, like apple outsource to china/taiwan themselves). Please tell me, what was constructive about that post.
To clarify: Consider the last sentence of the op, seems a bit off to complain about that, and may have something to do with him having so few posts anyway. Then the rest is about giant that op didn't know was the largest (ok, great) and then something about manufacturing not in the us (why would it be, a taiwanese company has no reason to produce in the us when even us giants, pun intended, like apple outsource to china/taiwan themselves). Please tell me, what was constructive about that post.
Originally Posted by zhvelo
and op followed up on none of that in his op beyond "no manufacturing in the us any time soon, but in hungary ('oh my god stop the presses why not us but hungary')".
Originally Posted by zhvelo
and yet he someone barely discussed what the article is about or what his own thoughts are.
Originally Posted by zhvelo
wrong, like almost always. I made one comment about op, and then a bunch of people jumped on me and i replied to that, not to op himself.
lol. To be clear, I didn't say you repeatedly replied to the OP, I said you posted several times about why we shouldn't like his post. Obviously, I wasn't wrong about that at all. QED
I challenged you to react substantively to the linked article, and even asked you to discuss what's going on with bike supplies where you live. That might actually be interesting. I'd actually like to know what you think. Want to give it a try?
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08-19-20, 07:10 AM
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Originally Posted by livedarklions
lol. To be clear, I didn't say you repeatedly replied to the OP, I said you posted several times about why we shouldn't like his post. Obviously, I wasn't wrong about that at all. QED
I challenged you to react substantively to the linked article, and even asked you to discuss what's going on with bike supplies where you live. That might actually be interesting. I'd actually like to know what you think. Want to give it a try?
I challenged you to react substantively to the linked article, and even asked you to discuss what's going on with bike supplies where you live. That might actually be interesting. I'd actually like to know what you think. Want to give it a try?
Oh did you? Good for you.
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Originally Posted by ZHVelo
Because you and others questioned why i made that post, wrongly questioned it. I replied to you outlining why I did. If you get your panties in a twist because I kept replying, maybe don't ask...
Oh did you? Good for you.
Oh did you? Good for you.
Congrats on making about a dozen ignore lists.
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