I find it amazing what advertising can condition people to accept
08-21-20, 04:42 PM
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08-21-20, 05:22 PM
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Howdy pards,
When one responds with "fixin to" is the speaker referring to y'all is fixing to or y'all are fixing to?
Don't get me started on "ya'll" either. That's just the sign of being a yank or uncouth heathen.
And, if a bike tumps over and nobody hears it, does it make a sound?
Time to lit out.
When one responds with "fixin to" is the speaker referring to y'all is fixing to or y'all are fixing to?
Don't get me started on "ya'll" either. That's just the sign of being a yank or uncouth heathen.
And, if a bike tumps over and nobody hears it, does it make a sound?
Time to lit out.
Uncouth? Did I mention I lived in west Texas? Not heathens, but that's another story.
08-21-20, 06:57 PM
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And now for something completely different ... who was Dinsdale's main antagonist: Luigi Vercotti, Spiny Norman, or Supt. Harry 'Snapper' Organs?
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08-21-20, 08:01 PM
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I should clarify I lived in west Texas, which as you know is anything but DFW. I've heard it said that west Texas starts in Fort Worth, but I call BS. We'd make the drive east to the city to visit my daughter's family, and I'd say west Texas starts at that point a couple hours west of Fort Worth where you look out the window and realize you could die just out there and nobody would find your dried out bones for a very long time.
Uncouth? Did I mention I lived in west Texas? Not heathens, but that's another story.
Uncouth? Did I mention I lived in west Texas? Not heathens, but that's another story.
I know the point you are referring to. It’s just west of Cisco, close to Putnam.
08-21-20, 08:19 PM
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The image of Spiny Norman rising above a block of London row houses has stayed with me since my early teens.
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08-21-20, 09:42 PM
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"Better" is subjective. Better as in what? A house that is tight might be cheaper to heat and cool but tight houses keep stuff in that you want out. For example mold, germs and heat when your house catches on fire. Modern truss roofs fail much faster than traditional stick roofs in a dwelling fire. As a firefighter I can tell you we are quite reluctant to open a roof on a truss construction with fire directly below. Equal time, lack of firestops and balloon construction in old homes have their problems also but modern homes when they burn, they burn a lot hotter than older ones.
08-21-20, 10:29 PM
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I understand the GEARS paragraph pretty well, but I don't understand the FRAMES paragraph well so I pose some questions below in the interest of clarity . . .
1 -- back in the day, butt-welded frames were junk and they were called out as junk -- ok . . .
but now, we've been conditioned to accept butt welded frames as quality rather than as junk? . . . what contemporary frame would serve as an example of butt welding, and what contemporary frame would be an example of a beautiful lugged low temp brazed frame? is it your contention that the poorly welded frames (of today, not in the past) is priced equally or higher than frames with better welding?
2 -- automation has made manufacture of both welded frames and carbon frames cheaper -- yeah, I agree it has . . .
is it your contention here that carbon frames offer no performance benefit over welded frames, but that people pay premium for carbon because of how it's marketed? How do you account for / explain the science detailing carbon's performance compared to that of welded frames (in strength-to-weight, aero qualities, and compliance / rigidity)? . . . do you refute those findings that say carbon outperforms welded frames , or are you claiming those things don't really matter to a typical cyclist and shouldn't be valued / priced as if they did matter?
1 -- back in the day, butt-welded frames were junk and they were called out as junk -- ok . . .
but now, we've been conditioned to accept butt welded frames as quality rather than as junk? . . . what contemporary frame would serve as an example of butt welding, and what contemporary frame would be an example of a beautiful lugged low temp brazed frame? is it your contention that the poorly welded frames (of today, not in the past) is priced equally or higher than frames with better welding?
2 -- automation has made manufacture of both welded frames and carbon frames cheaper -- yeah, I agree it has . . .
is it your contention here that carbon frames offer no performance benefit over welded frames, but that people pay premium for carbon because of how it's marketed? How do you account for / explain the science detailing carbon's performance compared to that of welded frames (in strength-to-weight, aero qualities, and compliance / rigidity)? . . . do you refute those findings that say carbon outperforms welded frames , or are you claiming those things don't really matter to a typical cyclist and shouldn't be valued / priced as if they did matter?
Back on point, in case the OP cares to answer any questions to support his initial assertions
08-21-20, 10:35 PM
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08-22-20, 08:46 AM
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14 internal gears are acceptable to the grey beard.
13 external gears is pointless overkill.
Extended linkages to steer a trike are cool.
The stem connected directly to a fork is a. weight weenism, b. advertising hype c. ugly
It's ok to talk about the ultra plush ride of steel and leather seats.
Suspension is a gimmick.
13 external gears is pointless overkill.
Extended linkages to steer a trike are cool.
The stem connected directly to a fork is a. weight weenism, b. advertising hype c. ugly
It's ok to talk about the ultra plush ride of steel and leather seats.
Suspension is a gimmick.
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08-22-20, 12:06 PM
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I should clarify I lived in west Texas, which as you know is anything but DFW. I've heard it said that west Texas starts in Fort Worth, but I call BS. We'd make the drive east to the city to visit my daughter's family, and I'd say west Texas starts at that point a couple hours west of Fort Worth...
08-22-20, 12:29 PM
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Think'n I'm in need of sum splain'n cause this conversat'n gots me corn fused. 
I always thought West Texas started in El Paso
I always thought West Texas started in El Paso
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08-22-20, 12:32 PM
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I only managed to make it thru a few replies. But what I find amazing is: 203 replies?! (including mine) so far.
08-22-20, 12:34 PM
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08-22-20, 12:55 PM
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Gotcha. All the boilermakers from Indiana I knew were from Local 374 in Hammond, they often came over and worked out of our hall in Chicago, Local 1.
There are several stories about how Purdue got the boilermaker nickname, one being the football team once used ringers recruited at a nearby locomotive boiler shop.
There are several stories about how Purdue got the boilermaker nickname, one being the football team once used ringers recruited at a nearby locomotive boiler shop.
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Gotcha. All the boilermakers from Indiana I knew were from Local 374 in Hammond, they often came over and worked out of our hall in Chicago, Local 1.
There are several stories about how Purdue got the boilermaker nickname, one being the football team once used ringers recruited at a nearby locomotive boiler shop.
There are several stories about how Purdue got the boilermaker nickname, one being the football team once used ringers recruited at a nearby locomotive boiler shop.
08-22-20, 01:12 PM
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The version I remember, an opposing team’s school paper used it for an insult. It wasn’t until around ww2 that it really stuck, and the team were also sometimes called Riveters.
Anyhow, welcome to the forum!
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