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Old 09-01-20, 08:15 PM
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GORTEX for Cycling? Suggestions for cycling jackets.

Is GORTEX and good material for a cycling jacket? Is it breathable enough for the average cyclist that is not really hammering down?

Suggestions for a cycling jackets?
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Old 09-01-20, 08:23 PM
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It's actually really steamy in goretex. Have tried it a couple times and too hot. Would rather just get wet or not go
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The GORETEX Shakedry jackets are absolutely amazing virtually waterproof and breath just like a regular wind shell. Can not recommend enough.
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Originally Posted by velopig View Post
The GORETEX Shakedry jackets are absolutely amazing virtually waterproof and breath just like a regular wind shell. Can not recommend enough.
I have a Gore C7 Shakedry Stretch jacket that has been a gamechanger in the wet. I would say it breathes much better than any old regular wind shell.
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I have tried GoreTex and many of the other brands and not one ever breathed enough where I was not soaked after a MTB ride.
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I too generally find Gore-Tex not ventilating enough.
If it rainds hard enough, you eventually face the choice wet-from-outside and cold, or clammy from inside and warm(er).
GT will work for the latter.
Otherwise, for semi-miserable weather I prefer jackets with a high-resistance front panel and a more breathable back panel.
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100% waterproof and 100% breathable at the same time is a fantasy. There is no such thing out there. Gore-Tex and other similar fabrics are only good for low intensity activities. Anything higher intensity and those fabrics become a sweat bath.
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What sort of temps are we talking about? 90 and rainy is not something to use goretex or any rain jacket for. 50 and rainy? The Gore-Tex jacket will be great. The one thing that people tend to forgot is that you need to wash a gore tex jacket. As the pores get filled with dirt, dust and other particles, they won't breath as well.
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To each his own. I've tried them in 40 degree weather, still too hot. Might be good for running errand here or there but 2-3 hours on the bike and you will be taking it off
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Cant do much better than columbia OutDry. Its quite breathable, at least as breathable as goretex and IMO a little better, and the waterproof layer is on the outside so there is zero risk of wetout which is the major downside of goretex or any material that has a layer outside the waterproof layer. Outdry is also exceptionally light as it can literally be a waterproof layer made into a jacket, which also helps with reducing sweating.

Its also very very durable.
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Old 09-02-20, 08:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Flip Flop Rider View Post
To each his own. I've tried them in 40 degree weather, still too hot. Might be good for running errand here or there but 2-3 hours on the bike and you will be taking it off
Spent hours in them. Actually last years Hincapie ride, I had my bright red gore tex jacket and it honestly, saved me.

The Gore riding gear is huge in Europe as it works great in those conditions. Also, a Gore jacket does not have a water proof layer added, the Gore layer is the water proof layer. All their patent was is the ability to make variable pore sizes. So they can make a pore that allows air to escape (small particle) but won't allow a water particle to pass (too large).

Also you have to keep in mind that there are two major types of Gore Jackets. Certain jackets, the "Wind Stopper stuff, will actually block wind so the layer beneath the Gore layer will get wet from sweat and won't dry as the Gore layer is blocking it.

That stuff should be used to keep warm and that is about it. Use regular Gore stuff to keep dry.
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I do not have any water resistant cycling clothing. I don't see the point. If I'm not getting wet from the outside in, then I'll certainly get wet from the inside out. Even while cycling in the teens (F) my base layer is at least damp, and it's usually fairly wet. If getting getting chilled due to evaporation of moisture is a risk, then I'll wear insulating clothing that retains heat when wet (wool) and a wind barrier.

IME, even backpacking pushes "breathable" fabrics to the limit, especially in humid weather. I don't claim to have tried everything, but personally I've never worn a breathable synthetic that will repel rain and wind and not act as a sweatbox during aerobic activities. YMMV.
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I specified the Shakedry material as amazing and the difference is night and day from standard GORETEX with regards to breathability and packability. But don't expect it to be cheap or durable.
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I very much doubt that most have tried Shakedry, especially since nearly all the replies seem to think Gore-Tex is a single type of fabric. Gore-Tex is a brand that makes different waterproof breathable grades of fabric. Shakedry is just the membrane without the other fabric layers and DWR used in 3, 2, and 2.5 layer systems that fail over time. It's the shiznit.
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Originally Posted by velopig View Post
I specified the Shakedry material as amazing and the difference is night and day from standard GORETEX with regards to breathability and packability. But don't expect it to be cheap or durable.
Shakedry is the thinnest layer of Gore-tex and nothing else. Packable and form fitting. Much better in terms of fitting and wicking compared to my "old" gore tex jacket.
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I've not found Goretex to work as advertised, except in limited conditions. Cycling in general, I generate a lot more heat than can be dissipated through Goretex or any other "breathable" jacket.

The limited conditions where it works fairly well are cold and dry. 50F is generally too warm; 40-45 with dewpoint 15-20 cooler works OK, but I don't get a lot of that where I live. For more common conditions, I've got jackets with pit zippers, two-way front zippers, sleeves that can be opened (velcro around the cuffs) and a back vent.

Even then, over 60 the rain jacket is optional. I'm going to get wet either way, sweat or rain.
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Originally Posted by vespasianus View Post
Shakedry is the thinnest layer of Gore-tex and nothing else. Packable and form fitting. Much better in terms of fitting and wicking compared to my "old" gore tex jacket.
its the goretex version of Outdry. outdry was made available and gore had to get something out to compete. Shakedry is good but not nearly as durable as outdry.

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Originally Posted by FordTrax View Post
Is GORTEX and good material for a cycling jacket? Is it breathable enough for the average cyclist that is not really hammering down?

Suggestions for a cycling jackets?
yes and yes! I love my gortex pants and poncho. They are not cheap but will keep you dry for sure,
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base layering would be better when using with a thicker jersey
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Ehhh most jackets in the waterproof category don't really breathe all that well. I had a RAB jacket with Polartec NeoShell and my current Mountain Hardwear shell with their DRY.Q Elite and they are excellent jackets but I still sweat in them and they were/are some of the supposedly more breathable membranes.

This all being said Gore-Tex does make some excellent waterproof membranes and the Shakedry seems like a great cycling companion for cooler wet weather pursuits. For the hot times I would go jacket less but as it gets cooler my MHW Dry Q shell is just fine and dandy.
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Ehhh most jackets in the waterproof category don't really breathe all that well.I had a RAB jacket with Polartec NeoShell and my current Mountain Hardwear shell with their DRY.Q Elite and they are excellent jackets but I still sweat in them
This kind of sentiment is thrown about all the time.

The jacket wont prevent a person sweating. People expect magic from jackets. must be wind and waterproof, but must also be fully permeable from the inside out. thats a huge ask.
Couple this with the fact that most people wont wear appropriate layers under the jacket and it really doesn't have a chance at behaving close to expectations.

If your underlayers are cotton, forget about it, thats where the sweat stays, regardless of how fancy the jacket material is.
If your underlayers are wicking but too heavy, and youre sweating while cycling, again, theres only so much the jacket can do.
If you have too many underlayers sweat will build up between them.

The best shot at reducing sweat is to wear a wicking layer next to the skin, lighter than you think you need. Be a bit colder than you would like setting out, with the idea that you will warm up with a few mins cycling.
The jacket over this will keep water out, while the wicking layer and the jacket will do a reasonable job at keeping you dry from the inside.
I have found goretex and similar fabrics less breathable when "Wetted out" but for the commute, it rarely makes a difference. If wetout is a big issue, get Outdry or shakedry and remove the problem.
Thats what ive learned from experience anyway.

Again though, dont expect miracles, the jacket is trying to do two opposing tasks here, waterproof & windproof from the outside, permeable with airflow from the inside.

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Originally Posted by wilson_smyth View Post
The best shot at reducing sweat is to wear a wicking layer next to the skin, lighter than you think you need. Be a bit colder than you would like setting out, with the idea that you will warm up with a few mins cycling.
The jacket over this will keep water out, while the wicking layer and the jacket will do a reasonable job at keeping you dry from the inside.
I have found goretex and similar fabrics less breathable when "Wetted out" but for the commute, it rarely makes a difference.
I think this is landing where I staked out a position before, just from a slightly different angle:
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I've not found Goretex to work as advertised, except in limited conditions. ...
The limited conditions where it works fairly well are cold and dry. 50F is generally too warm; 40-45 with dewpoint 15-20 cooler works OK, but I don't get a lot of that where I live.
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Again though, dont expect miracles, the jacket is trying to do two opposing tasks here, waterproof & windproof from the outside, permeable with airflow from the inside.
And part of the problem we have at BF is that so many people see the Goretex ads, drink the Kool-Ade, and and expect waterproof, windproof, and permeable in whatever weather they ride.
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Goretexs material isn't all inclusive to doing the entire proclaimed expectations. The material may do some of it, but knowing how to use the clothing takes it to the rest of the expectations. If the ventilation isn't adjusted correctly, you'll overheat then you'll perspire. If the ventilation is allowed more than what is needed, you'll be cold & likely have precipitation intrusion.
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Originally Posted by wilson_smyth View Post
This kind of sentiment is thrown about all the time.

The jacket wont prevent a person sweating. People expect magic from jackets. must be wind and waterproof, but must also be fully permeable from the inside out. thats a huge ask.
Couple this with the fact that most people wont wear appropriate layers under the jacket and it really doesn't have a chance at behaving close to expectations.

If your underlayers are cotton, forget about it, thats where the sweat stays, regardless of how fancy the jacket material is.
If your underlayers are wicking but too heavy, and youre sweating while cycling, again, theres only so much the jacket can do.
If you have too many underlayers sweat will build up between them.

The best shot at reducing sweat is to wear a wicking layer next to the skin, lighter than you think you need. Be a bit colder than you would like setting out, with the idea that you will warm up with a few mins cycling.
The jacket over this will keep water out, while the wicking layer and the jacket will do a reasonable job at keeping you dry from the inside.
I have found goretex and similar fabrics less breathable when "Wetted out" but for the commute, it rarely makes a difference. If wetout is a big issue, get Outdry or shakedry and remove the problem.
Thats what ive learned from experience anyway.

Again though, dont expect miracles, the jacket is trying to do two opposing tasks here, waterproof & windproof from the outside, permeable with airflow from the inside.
Agreed with all of that. When I said I still sweat I probably should have worded it differently.
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Agreed with all of that. When I said I still sweat I probably should have worded it differently.
I wouldn't sweat it.
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