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Old 10-16-20, 02:38 PM
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Originally Posted by veganbikes View Post
It is all scams. Gotta eat plenty of powder though, powder makes the world go round.

One thing I've noticed is that there seems to be a tendency to vilify vegetable-based proteins. The really obvious ones are soy and gluten.

I do agree that protein powder is a complete scam.
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Originally Posted by wolfchild View Post
I get all the protein I need from eating real food. This includes: meat, eggs, yogurt and milk. I also lift weights and I find that a diet high in animal products will provide all the protein that your body needs to recover and maintain muscle. There is no need for any supplements. Only vegetarians and other fad dieters are at the risk of being protein deficient.
Vegetarians and other fad dieters?

Nice to know I've been part of a fad for the last 20 years.
Now I'm curious where all those keto converts went to... Last year it was all you heard about. This year - not so much.
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Originally Posted by livedarklions View Post
One thing I've noticed is that there seems to be a tendency to vilify vegetable-based proteins. The really obvious ones are soy and gluten.

I do agree that protein powder is a complete scam.
Soy and gluten are in a lot of things, it is silly to vilify. I think people love to be trendy and hating gluten is a popular one. I don't know why people are so scared of it?
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Originally Posted by wolfchild View Post
How did people get enough protein before protein supplements were invented ??
How did people manage to ride bikes before disk brakes, tubeless tires and electronic shifting?

I am not sure your argument is logical.

The science is quite clear on the merits of whey protein. From measures of lean body mass to diabetes.
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Originally Posted by veganbikes View Post
Soy and gluten are in a lot of things, it is silly to vilify. I think people love to be trendy and hating gluten is a popular one. I don't know why people are so scared of it?

It's actually a very versatile ingredient as is soy. I'm a carnivore, but I actually eat a lot of stuff based on soy and gluten because I like it.

Gluten's biggest problem is that the word sounds gross. I think most people who are afraid of it don't really know what it is.
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Originally Posted by Mulberry20 View Post
How did people manage to ride bikes before disk brakes, tubeless tires and electronic shifting?

I am not sure your argument is logical.

The science is quite clear on the merits of whey protein. From measures of lean body mass to diabetes.

Really?
https://www.health.harvard.edu/staying-healthy/the-hidden-dangers-of-protein-powders
https://www.mayoclinic.org/drugs-supplements-whey-protein/art-20363344
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Originally Posted by livedarklions View Post
It's actually a very versatile ingredient as is soy. I'm a carnivore, but I actually eat a lot of stuff based on soy and gluten because I like it.

Gluten's biggest problem is that the word sounds gross. I think most people who are afraid of it don't really know what it is.
You are not a carnivore, scientifically speaking like all humans you are an omnivore. Though by definition if you choose to eat meat you would be a carnist.

Soy and gluten are generally quite tasty. I never thought of gluten as a gross word though but I guess in modern times it could be more offensive. I wouldn't be alive without bread and pasta for sure and those odd gluten free pastas just don't cut it. Rice noodles in context are fine but in substitute for a good die cut pasta, no!
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There is really no practical substitute for whey protein.
Another bizarre Mulberry-ism. At least it's not faulty mechanical advice that could hurt someone.
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Originally Posted by genejockey View Post
Sardine?


(Seriously. I usually make myself a sardine sandwich after big Sunday rides)
I often buy them for breakfast during tours. Easy to pack in the panniers. Put ‘em on a bagel and I’m good to go. I grew up eating them, especially kipper snacks.
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I put this in the oven a while ago. I also eat a lot of whole fish.


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I recently bought a can of sardines after reading an article about how tasty and nutritious they are. I haven't had the nerve to try them yet. My wife says I shouldn't open them inside the house....
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Originally Posted by shelbyfv View Post
My wife says I shouldn't open them inside the house....
They’re not that bad.

One holiday season I bought a whole smoked whitefish from a Jewish deli. Got some of the oil on my fingers and then gave kitty some pets on the top of the head, where he couldn’t clean. Poor guy’s head smelled like fish for a few days.
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Originally Posted by indyfabz View Post
I often buy them for breakfast during tours. Easy to pack in the panniers. Put ‘em on a bagel and I’m good to go. I grew up eating them, especially kipper snacks.
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I recently bought a can of sardines after reading an article about how tasty and nutritious they are. I haven't had the nerve to try them yet. My wife says I shouldn't open them inside the house....
I grew up eating them, too. My wife didn't. So I don't have to share. And our Greyhound loves it when I rinse out the can and pour the liquid over his kibble. But my wife prefers I turn on the exhaust fan while making sardine salad. All the benefits of tuna salad, without the concentration of heavy metals from being an apex predator!
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Originally Posted by livedarklions View Post
It's actually a very versatile ingredient as is soy. I'm a carnivore, but I actually eat a lot of stuff based on soy and gluten because I like it.

Gluten's biggest problem is that the word sounds gross. I think most people who are afraid of it don't really know what it is.
I suspect a lot of Placebo Effect among the general public.
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The idea of needing a protein drink after a ride is probably promulgated by pros needing something convenient to get needed nutrients, since post-race stages often have a lengthy transfer process before they can eat a real meal. Dylan Johnson has a video where he points to the results of a misleading study that seems to be the origin to the widely accepted idea that a certain ratio of protein to carb is needed to maximize gains. See around minute 7:
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And don’t forget the roasted chicken Provençal.


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Originally Posted by indyfabz View Post
And don’t forget the roasted chicken Provençal.


"Think you used enough dynamite Herbes de Provence, there, Butch?"
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I grew up eating them, too. My wife didn't. So I don't have to share.
😂 Same with my ex long time live-in GF.
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The idea of needing a protein drink after a ride is probably promulgated by pros needing something convenient to get needed nutrients...
I drink a liver smoothy after every ride ... just for the culinary delight.
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"Think you used enough dynamite Herbes de Provence, there, Butch?"
I take my Provençal chicken flavorful, like my rabbit.


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I have an absolutely horrible diet and I’m vegetarian. When I tried keeping track of my protein intake, I was lucky to get 20g a day from just “food”. I weighed 145lbs at that point and wasn’t even cycling. I was trying to strength train in the gym LOL.
OK, if you're artificially limiting your diet you'll have to make some effort to add in the nutrients you've cut out.

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How did people get enough protein before protein supplements were invented ??
All those people are dead now.
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Originally Posted by indyfabz View Post
I take my Provençal chicken flavorful, like my rabbit.

Rabbit - now there's ANOTHER thing we ate growing up that I couldn't get the wife to try. That and lamb kidneys.
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I love rabbit. I order it anytime I see it on a menu and I have yet to be disappointed.
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Rabbit - now there's ANOTHER thing we ate growing up that I couldn't get the wife to try. That and lamb kidneys.
One of the best meals I have ever eaten out is veal kidneys in a Dijon cream sauce in Brussels. Had them twice during my 4 nights there. That was in ‘85. I found a recipe on line several years ago and made them twice. Good, but it didn’t measure up.
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Originally Posted by livedarklions View Post
One thing I've noticed is that there seems to be a tendency to vilify vegetable-based proteins. The really obvious ones are soy and gluten.
I don't vilify plant proteins, actually I just finished eating 4 cups of steamed white rice but I also had some meat with it....Plant protein is not as bioavailable as animal protein,...Animal protein is more effective for maintaining strength and muscle.
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