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Old 10-17-20, 02:37 PM
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Saddle advice

Hello,

I have been suffering with coccyx pain for around 30 years now, I have just bought myself an e-bike and wish to use it regularly. I did just buy Serfas Tailbones Vinyl Unisex Comfort Saddle and after one short ride I decided it is no different to my normal saddle I had.

I have been looking at Spongy Wonder saddle/seat and also looking at the Moon Saddle
and I am finding it very difficult to decide which seat I would be better off with. If you can help or offer any advice I would really appreciate it.

Kind Regards

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Old 10-17-20, 06:34 PM
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Welcome to the forum, I hope you find a saddle that works for you
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Old 10-17-20, 06:38 PM
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Many "good" bicycle shops have "tester" saddles that they can lend you until you find one that works for you. I strongly suggest visiting a really good shop and talk to one of the senior salesperson.

Where are you located?
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30 years?

I have ridden moon saddle for years and love it. Only thing is you cannot ride no hands with no nose on the saddle. It takes a while to get used to but once you are, it's sweet
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The perfect saddle is somewhat of a crapshoot. Two things to avoid in your search are 1) High Price, no correlation at all to comfort or durability. I have Fabric Scoops and they are among the most comfortable, least expensive and most durable and 2) Marketing gimmicks. A comfortable saddle is nothing more than the proper shape for you and your rear end.

My experience is that any saddle marketed as being better because of better or more cushioning is a gimmick.

Have you consulted with an orthopedist that specializes in sports related injury?

Just keep trying without buying and you will find something. Don’t make the decision with your eyes. People often look at a bike saddle and say it “looks” uncomfortable.
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Old 10-17-20, 07:32 PM
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Saddle comfort is a component of bike fit.
before getting another saddle, make sure your bike fits well.
somtimes a small adjustment (cm or less) makes a difference
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Old 10-17-20, 08:35 PM
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Originally Posted by GlennR View Post
Many "good" bicycle shops have "tester" saddles that they can lend you until you find one that works for you. I strongly suggest visiting a really good shop and talk to one of the senior salesperson.

Where are you located?
many shops have a device you sit on to measure the distance between your sit bones which makes all the difference in finding the right seat versus rolling the dice. Then you will know what size tester saddles to try.

Believe me, I bought at least a dozen saddles before that device was invented.
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Originally Posted by rsbob View Post
many shops have a device you sit on to measure the distance between your sit bones which makes all the difference in finding the right seat versus rolling the dice. Then you will know what size tester saddles to try.

Believe me, I bought at least a dozen saddles before that device was invented.
Sit bones is only one measurement. The length of the nose, the width of the nose, if there's a center and or read cutout.

If sitting on the pad to find where the sit bones are were the only criteria, then no one would have a problem finding the perfect saddle.

You have to actually ride one.
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Selle Italia dealers have a no cost ride and try for their seats. That gives you seat time in various seats. Only downside is price, but they have less expensive seats as well.
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Originally Posted by sharonlove View Post
Hello,

I have been suffering with coccyx pain for around 30 years now, I have just bought myself an e-bike and wish to use it regularly. I did just buy Serfas Tailbones Vinyl Unisex Comfort Saddle and after one short ride I decided it is no different to my normal saddle I had.

I have been looking at Spongy Wonder saddle/seat and also looking at the Moon Saddle
and I am finding it very difficult to decide which seat I would be better off with. If you can help or offer any advice I would really appreciate it.

Kind Regards

Sharon Love
Saddles are an absolute crap shoot that depends upon everything from your amount of riding to the quality of the shorts you wear to what your dimensions actually are. I would suggest since you are having this specific problem that you try a saddle with a wide central cut-out. One of the hints that you might need this is that if you do long rides and keep having to stand up and stretch your back. Why that would be so strongly effected by a cut-out I have no idea but it most certainly does. Remember that you might have to try a dozen different saddles to find one that works well for you. Generally women need a saddle that is 143 mm or more wide and with a fairly wide central cut-out. Also you should wear top quality padding in your shorts.
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Old 10-18-20, 03:36 PM
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I would like to expand on or support three points others have raised
Originally Posted by rsbob View Post
many shops have a device you sit on to measure the distance between your sit bones which makes all the difference in finding the right seat versus rolling the dice. Then you will know what size tester saddles to try.
This is sort of step one. If the saddle doesn't offer support where you need it, the saddler won't be comfortable. A shoe which fits is always more comfortable than a show which doesn't, regardless of the style of the shoe.
Originally Posted by martianone View Post
Saddle comfort is a component of bike fit.
before getting another saddle, make sure your bike fits well.
somtimes a small adjustment (cm or less) makes a difference
This is equally important. Your weight is divided between three contact points (well, five, but to pairs) which are the saddle, the bars, and the pedals. If the relationship between these three doesn't suit your unique (and changing) physiology, no saddle will seem comfortable.

Originally Posted by Mulberry20 View Post
The perfect saddle is somewhat of a crapshoot. Two things to avoid in your search are 1) High Price, no correlation at all to comfort or durability. I have Fabric Scoops and they are among the most comfortable, least expensive and most durable and 2) Marketing gimmicks. A comfortable saddle is nothing more than the proper shape for you and your rear end.

My experience is that any saddle marketed as being better because of better or more cushioning is a gimmick.
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Spongy saddles can work (not the brand "Spongy" if such exists, but overpadded saddles) but tend to cause issues over longer and/or more frequent rides. If you shift and move on the padding too much it can cause saddle sores.

For shorter and/or less frequent rides, they might be fine.

People who ride less tend to sit on the saddle more, while people who ride more tend to carry more weight on their legs (this and all other generalizations are indeed, general, and only you know what applies to you.)

I know that after lay-offs (illness, injury, schedule) if I start trying to increase my mileage, my bike seems to no longer fit well---it is because I have lost the leg and core strength to ride with good technique, and by the end of the rides I am sitting too much weight on the saddler and on my arms. After I regain some fitness, the bike seems comfortable for longer.

If you ride short distances at low intensities, a really soft, wide saddle might be fine. if you ride a bit more often, longer, or more vigorously, more padding is generally less comfortable.

As everyone has said, buying saddles is purely trial and error. Nobody has exactly the same physique or riding style, and what is perfect for me might be torture for you.

ASSUMPTION WARNING: I assume because you specify e-bike that you are not using your legs as much as some riders might. Sorry if I am wrong. If you are sitting on the saddle more than perching on it while you support yourself by pedaling a softer saddle might be right for you. Only you know how much weight you put on the pedals and for how long. If you ride your e-bike more like a bike with just a little assist tog et up the hills or to add more speed, a more conventional saddle should work. if you ride it more like a pedal-assisted electric scooter, a a wider saddle might be better.

I'd suggest you find a shop which lets you test saddles, and tell the staff exactly how you plan to ride. Maybe they can make specific suggestions.
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Thick padding or any odd gimmicky saddles are probably ones to avoid at least until you have talked with and done a fit with a proper dynamic fitter. They should have you on a fit bike that is set up like your current bike (or your current bike can work as well) and they should be observing you or the motion capture or cameras and making adjustments and such to dial things in. They may have a saddle recommendation for you after that and you may listen to them as they tend to know a bit at least the ones who take their craft seriously.

Bike fit is the most important thing if you are experiencing pain while cycling. Any saddle could be terrible and cause pain if in the wrong position for you and your specific needs and body. Anyone who rides a bike more than once should get a bike fit. It is not about racing, it is not about being a "professional" or anything like that it is about optimizing the bike for you or helping find the right bike for you should you be searching.
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