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Old 11-05-20, 01:02 PM
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Proposition 65 Warnings

I've noticed some manufactures of cycling apparel and gloves have Proposition 65 Warnings on the label.

Does anyone avoid purchasing such apparel and gloves?
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Old 11-05-20, 01:17 PM
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ECC = everything causes cancer. Deal with it.
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Old 11-05-20, 01:33 PM
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Originally Posted by taylorgeo View Post
I've noticed some manufactures of cycling apparel and gloves have Proposition 65 Warnings on the label.

Does anyone avoid purchasing such apparel and gloves?
A California law that seems to affect everyone that might sell something that ends up in California. So Prop 65 warnings are added which really don't mean squat since the products are still able to be sold and purchased in California.

The best I can tell, 95% of all products I've come across in the last year have a Prop 65 label. No matter where that product came from or where it is sold to.

Bottom line, the Prop 65 label does not affect my purchases.
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As a real answer to your question I donít wear anything that has a prop 65 warning
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Old 11-05-20, 01:45 PM
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I'll buy it, but try not to ingest it.
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Originally Posted by taylorgeo View Post
I've noticed some manufactures of cycling apparel and gloves have Proposition 65 Warnings on the label.

Does anyone avoid purchasing such apparel and gloves?
I dont know of any clothing I own that has a prop65 warning.
I also dont look for it before ripping off the tags.

I do not avoid purchasing clothing with that warning as it never enters my mind as a consideration before purchase. Now I am slightly curious to see how much cycling clothing has a prop65 warning.
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Old 11-05-20, 01:57 PM
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Prop 65 on clothing, but "complies with all state and federal product safety standards".


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Old 11-05-20, 03:16 PM
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Originally Posted by taylorgeo View Post
I've noticed some manufactures of cycling apparel and gloves have Proposition 65 Warnings on the label.

Does anyone avoid purchasing such apparel and gloves?

I'm sure someone does, but the warnings are ridiculous. The State of California uses unrealistic standards and ignores the simple fact that dosage makes the poison. Caffeine and alcohol may cause cancer. Everything MAY cause cancer.

Buy the gear you need. If you're buying from a reputable store and a reputable brand, it's safe.
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Old 11-05-20, 03:18 PM
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I bought an MSR stove at one point (the Reactor). It too had that warning. When they warn about everything, it becomes meaningless.
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Old 11-05-20, 04:08 PM
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I just bought some N95 masks made in the USA and they have a Prop 65 warning.
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Old 11-05-20, 06:51 PM
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Bu t they continue to make a glaring omission. Sunlight is not just suspected, but actually, known to cause cancer, and yet it has no warnings.
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As I don't live in California, I'm safe.
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The fact that it's called "Prop 65" means that it was a ballot initiative and it didn't become law through the normal legislative process. I'm a little surprised that nobody in California has introduced a proposition to cancel it.
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Originally Posted by Pratt View Post
Bu t they continue to make a glaring omission. Sunlight is not just suspected, but actually, known to cause cancer, and yet it has no warnings.
Sadly, there's no way to squeeze money out of the manufacturer.
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Old 11-05-20, 07:37 PM
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Originally Posted by CargoDane View Post
I bought an MSR stove at one point (the Reactor). It too had that warning. When they warn about everything, it becomes meaningless.
Nah, it protects the manufacturer from liability. If you bought it and use it despite the warning, the risk is on you.
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Old 11-05-20, 07:41 PM
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Originally Posted by JohnDThompson View Post
Nah, it protects the manufacturer from liability. If you bought it and use it despite the warning, the risk is on you.
If so, it's not a warning, and it could have been relegated to the documents/user manual. Instead, it was wired (a thin wire) with other huge warnings about safety. Had to use a wire cutter to cut off the wire without destroying the cooker itself.

Some it is to protect themselves from liability, other things are by law (Prop 65).
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Old 11-06-20, 08:05 AM
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Life remains the leading cause of death---and Nobody Talks About It.

The fact that there is no proof of the conspiracy is proof of the conspiracy.

Oxygen Oxide is so corrosive it actually destroys iron and steel. Yet no one warns us? And Dihydrogen Oxide is almost a universal solvent, and is implicated in countless swimming, boating, and fishing deaths---yet no one says a word.

We should be thankful that those brave Californians are not afraid to be afraid of everything, and are willing to spend money they don't have to warn the rest of us.
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And Dihydrogen Oxide is almost a universal solvent, and is implicated in countless swimming, boating, and fishing deaths---yet no one says a word.
That is one crazy substance. It is used to make concrete, it is used to smother fires..... And some people actually drink the stuff!
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Originally Posted by thinktubes View Post
ECC = everything causes cancer. Deal with it.
But only in California.
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Originally Posted by bbbean View Post
I'm sure someone does, but the warnings are ridiculous. The State of California uses unrealistic standards and ignores the simple fact that dosage makes the poison. Caffeine and alcohol may cause cancer. Everything MAY cause cancer.
And when they test substances on laboratory rats, they tend to give them a proportionate dosage that's WAY above what the average person is likely to encounter.
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The cancer warnings are just the unintended side effect of Prop 65 that is visible to the rest of the world. The law created an incentive to over-report toxic substances in products, hence the vague labels.

But people forget the actual reason for Prop 65, which was that the EPA was not enforcing its own regulations in California, and the people wanted a stricter law. And the law has been credited with greatly reducing toxic emissions according to what I've been able to dig up on the topic.
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Originally Posted by unterhausen View Post
The fact that it's called "Prop 65" means that it was a ballot initiative and it didn't become law through the normal legislative process. I'm a little surprised that nobody in California has introduced a proposition to cancel it.
So, in other words, it is a measure voted on by a bunch of idiots in the voting population, rather than a measure dreamed up by an idiot representative of a bunch of idiots in the voting population.
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Originally Posted by Maelochs View Post
Life remains the leading cause of death---and Nobody Talks About It.
Just like how marriage is the chief cause of divorce. The thing about life, though, is that nobody gets out of it alive.
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Originally Posted by Gresp15C View Post
The cancer warnings are just the unintended side effect of Prop 65 that is visible to the rest of the world. The law created an incentive to over-report toxic substances in products, hence the vague labels.

But people forget the actual reason for Prop 65, which was that the EPA was not enforcing its own regulations in California, and the people wanted a stricter law. And the law has been credited with greatly reducing toxic emissions according to what I've been able to dig up on the topic.
That's sounds right. It's just annoying it is everywhere. It loses its meaning.
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Originally Posted by taylorgeo View Post
I've noticed some manufactures of cycling apparel and gloves have Proposition 65 Warnings on the label.

Does anyone avoid purchasing such apparel and gloves?
No, I just don't eat the gloves, and I avoid California since the state must be full of people who would eat gloves.
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