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Old 11-29-20, 07:31 PM
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Originally Posted by indyfabz
Which bike?
I'm finding lots of Giant OCR 3 and 2 in my price range so they're really what I'm most curious about, I did just find a Fuji 1.5 on CL that looks good also. But I have an open mind and a restricted budget at this point.
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Dam/n. Read the thread title and got excited since today is the first time in 20 years my weight was under 160. Never mind.

Oh, my Bianchi weighs 18lbs. Heavy bike but lighter me.
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Originally Posted by Bigbus
I'm finding lots of Giant OCR 3 and 2 in my price range so they're really what I'm most curious about, I did just find a Fuji 1.5 on CL that looks good also. But I have an open mind and a restricted budget at this point.
You need to work on your posting. “A” bike’s weight varies a lot.

And I will also ask what Giant bike weighed 35 lbs?
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Approximate weights from the bathroom scale, with pedals and bottle cages (all size 57 or 58):
2008 Ciocc Exige Carbon with Campagnolo Athena groupset and Campagnolo Vento wheels - 18.5 lbs.
2001 Casati Laser Acciaio (Dedacciai EOM 16.5 steel frame and fork) with Campagnolo Potenza groupset and Fulcrum 5s - 20 lbs.
1995 Colnago Tecnos (Columbus Nivacrom/Tecnos steel frame and fork) with Campagnolo Record triple groupset and Mavic Ksyrium wheels - 21 lbs.
2017 Black Mountain Cycles Road (4130 chromoly frame and fork) with Campagnolo Veloce groupset and Miche Race wheels - haven't weighed it, but my guess is around 24 lbs.
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My Emonda ALR 6 (54cm) is 15.9 with pedals and cages. My Domane SLR (52cm) is 18.1 with cages and pedals.
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My steel Tallerico with a steel fork is 17.75lbs. It's nearly 20 years old.

My Spectrum from the 80s is around 21 or so.

My old steel gravel bike is under 22 with wider tires and not a single bit of carbon fiber.

Unless you're talking about mountain bikes or touring or a pedi-cab or something, it's just about impossible to be over 25.

Did you weigh that bike fully loaded?
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I just can't shell out for a "high end" bike. Seems like you get to the point where you pay an extra $1000 for every pound of weight the bike looses. Buying used however has been a different story.

This one was purchased Nov 2019 (pre-pandemic) It weighs 15.1 lbs (Size XL) and feels a world of difference from my ~23 lb 2017 Cannondale slate 105 that I had been riding all along before this.

FWIW, BicycleBlueBook.com handles their inventory the same way car dealerships handle their used cars (22 years in the auto industry here). As inventory ages, they reduce the prices until the bike sells. On their site you can select what type of bike, size, then sort from oldest to newest which will reuslt in the best deals being first.





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Originally Posted by Bigbus
I'm really curious what a bike weighs. My old Giant road bike is 35# with maybe a pound or 2 of gear on it. I'm still looking for another road bike and I'm seeing claims by individuals in the range of 20 to 25 pounds. For example-2002 Giant OCR 3=22#. Is that real, or wishful thinking? Please, let me know what you have and what it weighs without a bunch of gear on it. I'm not looking at high end bikes or older vintage (like my Giant) so let's not start a bragging war here, Thanks
25 pounds is easy. Today I rode this 1983 Miyata 710:



That's a 37-year-old mid-range road bike, with little notable modification from original spec. If you ignore the water bottle, it's just about 25 pounds as pictured, with pedals and bottle cage and saddle bag.
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Originally Posted by mstateglfr
What Giant road bike ever weighed 35#?
I've worked on road bikes made by Giant under their brand and under contract for multiple other brands and none have ever been close to weighing 35#. This goes back to 80s steel road bikes, thru 90s, and present.

My bikes are all 63-65cm in size and weigh 20.5-25#. They vary based on intended use- a bike with front and rear racks weighs more than one without.
My daughter has a Giant Cabriolet from around 83/84. Has 549iso 24" steel rims shod with heavy kenda gumwalls connected with 36 cheap ass spokes to chromed steel hubs that bolt to the rather heavy lugged frame. 6sp freewheel, heavy chain, steel cranks with steel chainguard that's bolted together with steel bolts and pedaled with old fashioned steel pedals. Steel stem to steel bars, at least the steel seat pillar is narrow though the seat clamp is bulky. Anything that isn't pink is chromed to keep it looking good and prevent rust in a week from the steel quality. I failed to weigh it pre-swap but after switching the bars to an aluminum flat bar and tossing on thumb shifters it was down to 32lbs for a girl's bike, same thing with 27" wheels on the period and 60cm frame would probably easily top 35lbs.
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A Nashbar build (now defunct I think) with aluminum frame and Claris/Sora: 22 pounds.
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Mine:

Wilier Zero6 = 12.7lbs
Trek Madone SLR = 17.6lbs
KTM Scarp Sonic 29er MTB = 20lbs

And I'm a fat 143lbs on top. Only 5ft 6in tall though...
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My Fuji Supreme weighs in at 7.8kg with pedals, bottle cages and computer mount, or 17,2 lbs.​​​​Pretty decent for an aero road bike with disc brakes.

My steel touring bike weighs in at 16kg, or a bit over 35 lbs.

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Getting a new road or gravel bike in the 20-25 lb range can be easily done for not much money.

What pushes the weight up is all the extras like racks, fenders, lights, bottle cages, and all the electronics doo-dads that fill up some handlebars.
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I have two road bikes. My Guru Sidero (steel) has all SRAM Red, Speedplay Zeros and Mavic Ksyrium Elite USTs. It weighs 17 lb 14 oz. My CAAD 12 has all 105, Speedplay Zeros and Mavic Ksyrium Elite USTs. It weighs 17 lb 10 oz. Both are 54/55 frames with 55 TT. I also have a Colnago World Cup CX that weighs about 22 lbs.


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If you want to really compare weight, you need to weigh your bike without your tools and water bottles. I weighed one of my 24oz Polar bottles at 783 grams. If you carry 2 of them then you’ve added over 3 lbs of just water.

I’m also guessing your have a few pounds of tools and stuff.

Of course you can always stuff everything into a Comebak and make your bike weigh a lot less... lol!

I’m guessing your bike is really in the upper 20’s and the best way to compare is to remove what you can, including the pedals if you really want to compare weights.

Personally, at least for me, it’s in the wheels as far as how light a bike feels; at least up to a point. Some bikes weigh so much they will always feel sluggish. But if you have 6-7lbs in the wheels, that is extra weight you have to turn. Getting under 4lbs will make it feel more lively.

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Remember back in the 80s when the weigh weenies drilled off every last gram on their bikes. Virtually every bolt on component was drill out like Swiss cheese. Then they found that their bikes broke before the race was over.
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Although my bikes are heavy compared to some listed here, they didn't gain an ounce last week, unlike their rider who picked up about 3 lb.
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Originally Posted by rydabent
Remember back in the 80s when the weigh weenies drilled off every last gram on their bikes. Virtually every bolt on component was drill out like Swiss cheese. Then they found that their bikes broke before the race was over.
No.
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Weights below are largely equipped to go out on the road. Zero carbon fiber, tires are 28 mm minimum, mostly vintage or repurposed vintage stuff.

Currently, the heaviest bike in the stable is a c.1972 gaspipe French Liberia with original steel cottered cranks and pedals, replacement alloy 27-in rims, heavy junky tires - 29 lbs with handlebar-mounted bottle cage.

The three fixed-gears are are Reynolds 531 throughout - the '71 Gitane TdF is 24.6 lbs w/ tools, pump, bell, computer and handlebar-mounted bottle cage, the '73 Raleigh Competition running a Dingle Drive with CR-18 rims and 35 mm Conti Cyclocross Speed tires is 24.8 lbs w/ bell, bottle cage and cycle computer, and the purpose built Mercian Vincitore (531C frame, 531ST fork blades) is 24.6 lbs w/ tail lamp, SKS chromoplastic fenders, bell, computer and 2 ALE steel cages. So basically, 24.5-25 lbs.

The '82 Mercian Colorado (531C) built up with mid-grade '80s/early 90s Shimano parts is 25.4 lbs., which oddly enough is the same weight as the '76 Puch Royal X running a SunTour ultra 6 freewheel and 27-in Rigida rims with Panaracer 27 x 1 1/4 tires - both bikes with bottle cages, computers, etc.

The c.1974 Allegro (531 .9-.6-.9 metric gauge stuff) with entry level Normandy/Weinmann 27s and Campy NR derailleurs comes in at 27.8 lbs w/ a canvas Duluth Pack banana bag, tools, tubes and bottle cage, while the '73 Raleigh Gran Sport is 27.6 lbs built w Zefal lights, bell and bottle cage. I bet I could knock close to a pound of that just by replacing the nasty cheap Bell tires on it with some Paselas.

They're not exactly tanks, and for the most part they weigh less than the bikes I rode 45 years ago. With the exception of the Mercian Vincitore, which I ordered full custom, all of these bikes were acquired for very small amounts of money. They're also a lot of fun to ride, which is probably the best metric I can use for them. When I first started riding, I absorbed a line from Richard Ballentine's Richard's Bike Book - "One of my most joyous tours was on a battered 1935 B.S.A. that shed it's vital parts like water."
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Originally Posted by rydabent
Remember back in the 80s when the weigh weenies drilled off every last gram on their bikes. Virtually every bolt on component was drill out like Swiss cheese. Then they found that their bikes broke before the race was over.
I definitely heard about drillium frames, but never actually saw one, but I believe that there were people who did drill holes in their steel frames to lighten them.

There are lots of drillium pics out there. The ones that are disturbing to me are drillium drop bars and stems.

In all honesty I have admit cutting down a seatpost for probably a 10 gram reduction in weight. Looking back I was so stupid to basically ruin the use of a good seatpost for someone else for a totally imperceivable reduction in weight.

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Originally Posted by Yellowlab
I just can't shell out for a "high end" bike. Seems like you get to the point where you pay an extra $1000 for every pound of weight the bike looses. Buying used however has been a different story.

This one was purchased Nov 2019 (pre-pandemic) It weighs 15.1 lbs (Size XL) and feels a world of difference from my ~23 lb 2017 Cannondale slate 105 that I had been riding all along before this.

FWIW, BicycleBlueBook.com handles their inventory the same way car dealerships handle their used cars (22 years in the auto industry here). As inventory ages, they reduce the prices until the bike sells. On their site you can select what type of bike, size, then sort from oldest to newest which will reuslt in the best deals being first.




That's an amazing price and value. I bought my 2015 SLR Project One new and it's an awesome bike. I know i'll never sell it because of the value of a "used" bike but mine rides as good as it did on day one, so I never plan on selling it.
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Originally Posted by bruce19
I have two road bikes. My Guru Sidero (steel) has all SRAM Red, Speedplay Zeros and Mavic Ksyrium Elite USTs. It weighs 17 lb 14 oz. My CAAD 12 has all 105, Speedplay Zeros and Mavic Ksyrium Elite USTs. It weighs 17 lb 10 oz. Both are 54/55 frames with 55 TT. I also have a Colnago World Cup CX that weighs about 22 lbs.


That Cannon is drool worthy. Love the color!
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Originally Posted by GlennR
That's an amazing price and value. I bought my 2015 SLR Project One new and it's an awesome bike. I know i'll never sell it because of the value of a "used" bike but mine rides as good as it did on day one, so I never plan on selling it.
Thanks! These Emondas are amazin machines, I love mine to bits. Even being used I didn't have to do anything to it out of the box other than light assembly. I rode it all season and it is only now in the shop getting a generic end of year tune up so I can have it be ready for spring and not have to wait for it when I could be riding it. Congrats on the Project 1!
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Originally Posted by 70sSanO
If you want to really compare weight, you need to weigh your bike without your tools and water bottles. I weighed one of my 24oz Polar bottles at 783 grams. If you carry 2 of them then you’ve added over 3 lbs of just water.

I’m also guessing your have a few pounds of tools and stuff.

Of course you can always stuff everything into a Comebak and make your bike weigh a lot less... lol!

I’m guessing your bike is really in the upper 20’s and the best way to compare is to remove what you can, including the pedals if you really want to compare weights.

Personally, at least for me, it’s in the wheels as far as how light a bike feels; at least up to a point. Some bikes weigh so much they will always feel sluggish. But if you have 6-7lbs in the wheels, that is extra weight you have to turn. Getting under 4lbs will make it feel more lively.

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I'm blessed to have the best of both worlds. My wife rides an E-bike with a rack and trunk on it. I can put all of my tools, water bottles, etc on her bike. She couldn't care less because the e-bike already has more power than she needs and I get to roll around on my bike otherwise unemcumbered. Everyone should have a spouse with and e-bike that has a trunk for all the junk.
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