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Old 01-15-21, 01:26 PM
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Originally Posted by veganbikes
SRAM is an acronym for the founds Scott, Ray and Sam or for Static Random Access Memory.
Its an acronym, but its also made up so the other post was correct. And its especially correct since it was a response to another post saying just pronounce a made up word how you want. SRAM is quite frequently pronounced 'SHRAM' because, well I really dont know. There is no 'H' in the acronym and its an acronym so its not like there is a rule in the english language where a 'SH' sound should be made.
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Originally Posted by mstateglfr
Its an acronym, but its also made up so the other post was correct. And its especially correct since it was a response to another post saying just pronounce a made up word how you want. SRAM is quite frequently pronounced 'SHRAM' because, well I really dont know. There is no 'H' in the acronym and its an acronym so its not like there is a rule in the english language where a 'SH' sound should be made.
Technically every name for things is made up. However now you are saying it is not: "Shrhamh" Lies all lies.
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When I worked at Trek, I found a list of 10 names that they had considered naming the company. One of them was Kestrel, which Bevil Hogg used later.
I think he started 5 companies all together including Trek. 3 of them were medical product companies.

I see a lot of posts where people are weighing their options. I'm a little curious where there are U.S. bike shops that have moderately priced bikes that last long enough that you can do that without someone else buying the bike.. All the moderately priced bikes at my LBS are gone pretty quickly. MTBs last a bit longer since the trails are questionable this time of year.

And all the brands they carry are citing long lead times, possibly into 2022. The main source of new bikes is when a bike shop has overextended their credit and doesn't take a shipment.
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With the high demand of the Treks does anybody considering to buy other Brands?, is it worth it to wait almos a year for an Emonda SL. Endurance SL Canyon instead .... what does anyone think?. Your feedback would be greatly appreciated.
I was in the same predicament with an Emonda SLR and my LBS even had my size, but I chose to be patient and order the best frame from me and and how I plan to ride from my 40s --> onward. I chose the Colnago C64: frame is a 2 month wait and Shimano could be even longer. With all that in mind, and due to theft I'm currently without any means of cycling, I decided it was better not to rush it, spend my money where it would make the most sense and never look back regretting the investment. Hope that helps.
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Wonder what OP ended up choosing? Another COVID catastrophe if he had to settle for something other than a TREK.
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There's a new Trek company store 12 mile from me. I stopped by today on a ride and they seen to have most everything in stock
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I just can't imagine being that brand loyal (or tunnel-visioned). What's special about Trek that would preclude considering other bikes? I get it if the best bike shop that is reasonably accessible is a "Trek Shop". But shop around. Whatever you're looking for in a bike except the name can be found in another brand, possibly at greater value.
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There's a new Trek company store 12 mile from me. I stopped by today on a ride and they seen to have most everything in stock
It only looks full. The wife and I stopped in there considering a new MTB for her to convert to a gravel adventure/endurance bike since she has a dual suspension which is nice but not designed for riding that many miles. They had cheap mtbs till about 650.00 but even at 1000.00 they were having to try and ship from another shop far away while the one that would have worked the best would have been a wait till oct.
We've got a Poseidon Redwood showing up on Fri, it'll get a sram XO crankset I found on clearance for just under 200 and the rest will be a parts swap from her current gravel bike to make it that way we want it. Guess Trek pushed us to another bike. I ordered a frame for me to do that parts swap with as well. Only ordered the complete bike due to parts scarcity, my middle kid needs the advent X parts for his next frame size up. Also hopeful the cranks are cheap enough to not be milled out in the back so I can drill, tap and cut them down to his size.
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Originally Posted by Camilo
I just can't imagine being that brand loyal (or tunnel-visioned). What's special about Trek that would preclude considering other bikes? I get it if the best bike shop that is reasonably accessible is a "Trek Shop". But shop around. Whatever you're looking for in a bike except the name can be found in another brand, possibly at greater value.

While I am not brand loyal to Trek as I have owned Cannondale, Specialized, Raleigh, Giant, and for a short time a Felt, I have found that the Trek's seem to fit me better. Before I went with the Domane, I tried several brands in my local market, but nothing felt as good as the Domane did so I went back with the Trek.
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Originally Posted by jaxgtr
While I am not brand loyal to Trek as I have owned Cannondale, Specialized, Raleigh, Giant, and for a short time a Felt, I have found that the Trek's seem to fit me better. Before I went with the Domane, I tried several brands in my local market, but nothing felt as good as the Domane did so I went back with the Trek.
I did the same. Trek have always fit me better than any other brand, and I've ridden most of the major brands. It's just my personal preference.
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There's a new Trek company store 12 mile from me. I stopped by today on a ride and they seen to have most everything in stock
as long as you want a size 48?
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Originally Posted by Sy Reene
as long as you want a size 48?
Well, I was a Emonda SLR7 with Ultegra Di2 n a 54, a Emonda SLR7 with Force AXS in a 56 and a Madone SLR9 with Red AXS in a 56.
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Originally Posted by Sy Reene
as long as you want a size 48?
I know someone looking for a size 48...lol
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I wanted a Trek Domane but they were projecting end of year or even next year. I went to get a pre-fit since I started considering used or Canyon since they were posting availability soon.

Canyon Endurace ended up having availability in my size about 3 weeks before they had projected it and I ordered one. Put about 50 miles on it in less than a week and have been very happy. I am sure I would have like the Domane but the Canyon is a much better value. I got a Canyon Endurace 8.0 which is the Ultegra level, with Domane, it would have been 105.
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Originally Posted by jaxgtr
While I am not brand loyal to Trek as I have owned Cannondale, Specialized, Raleigh, Giant, and for a short time a Felt, I have found that the Trek's seem to fit me better. Before I went with the Domane, I tried several brands in my local market, but nothing felt as good as the Domane did so I went back with the Trek.
Absolutely.

In my case, in buying bikes for almost 50 years, I've never done a bunch of test rides to figure out which bike is best. When I was young and inexperienced (the 70s), I'd do a standover test for size and buy the bike that was within my price range with just a minimum of knowledge of relative value of the parts that were on it. I was perfectly happy, for the most part.

Later, as I became more of an "enthusiast" (read: a lot of over-analysis and "figuring"), I have almost always bought bare frames or complete bikes based on geometry. Then I build up the bike with fit parts selected and installed/adjusted for proper fit. When I've bought a complete bike (always used), it was based on the frame, then I'd change out parts based on what I or my wife actually needs on the bike.

Second, although I totally agree that if a test ride shows a certain bike to feel better than the others, it's the one to buy, I have always been skeptical that a test ride will be good enough to confidently base a selection on. That's because fit and comfort are so much based on the right saddle, saddle position and angle, stem height/angle and length, handlebar size and position, brake lever position, tire size and inflation, etc. etc. Any one of those things can totally change the feel of any given bike and can be changed to make an unsatisfactory bike feel much better. I'm sure a good, especially high end bike shop will make some of these adjustments and swap parts, especially to fit a bike you've chosen to buy - but for a test ride it seems a little much. I don't disagree with buying the one that feels best, but the downside is that the person might be forgoing a better value (in terms of components, weight, etc.) for a fairly trivial difference in feel that can be remedied easily. This is assuming similar frames on the bikes being compared.

But I'm making these comments as pretty familiar with selecting bikes based on geometry - comparing frames to what I have and like - and having built and adjusted many bikes over the years. Not typical, I know.

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Originally Posted by Camilo

Second, although I totally agree that if a test ride shows a certain bike to feel better than the others, it's the one to buy, I have always been skeptical that a test ride will be good enough to confidently base a selection on. That's because fit and comfort are so much based on the right saddle, saddle position and angle, stem height/angle and length, handlebar size and position, brake lever position, tire size and inflation, etc. etc. Any one of those things can totally change the feel of any given bike and can be changed to make an unsatisfactory bike feel much better. I'm sure a good, especially high end bike shop will make some of these adjustments and swap parts, especially to fit a bike you've chosen to buy - but for a test ride it seems a little much. I don't disagree with buying the one that feels best, but the downside is that the person might be forgoing a better value (in terms of components, weight, etc.) for a fairly trivial difference in feel that can be remedied easily. This is assuming similar frames on the bikes being compared.
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No disagreement with this at all. For the most part, I have been lucky in that I been able to take many of the bike models I bought for log test rides, versus cruising the parking lot. I've had friends allow me to ride their bikes a lot to help get a feel, and one of the staff at the shop let me taken his personal bikes before....again, I have super lucky in that respect. When I got the Domane, they did not have a bike in my size, but the Mgr of the shop let me take his Domane for a ride, we have basically the same fit, and I was even able to test out the Bontrager Verse saddle that I was looking at. So it was a two-fer test ride. The only bike where I had an issue due not taking a long test ride was when I was looking at the Synapse. I went out for 5 or 6 miles, it felt pretty good, and as I had my bike in the shop anyway, so they put my pedals and saddle on it and off I went. While is wasn't terrific, I felt I needed I just needed to make a few small tweaks, so I decided to get it. After a while, every seconds I rode on that bike, I hated it. It was the first relaxed fit bike I had ridden, so figured I just needed to find the sweet spot. Well the sweet spot was the Trek Emonda ALR.. .
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I was a Trek guy all my life, I had five of their road bikes plus commuter at one point. Then they failed me on a customer service issue on a Project One Madone back around 2008. When I finally pulled the trigger on a new 2021 model this past fall... I bought a Giant TCR (which I am thrilled with).

That said... I had to search around and got very lucky to find the bike in the the size and color I wanted at a shop in my general area. My "Home Shop", which was also a Giant dealer told me it would be approx. 3 to 6 months to order the bike. So the long lead times are not just Trek. Remember, Giant builds the framesets for a lot of other manufacturers lines. Trek, and Specialized included.
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Remember, Giant builds the framesets for a lot of other manufacturers lines. Trek, and Specialized included.
I don't know about Trek, but Specialized is manufactured (and partially owned) by Merida.
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With the high demand of the Treks does anybody considering to buy other Brands?, is it worth it to wait almos a year for an Emonda SL. Endurance SL Canyon instead .... what does anyone think?. Your feedback would be greatly appreciated.
John Burke keeps me from buying Trek products.
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I was a Trek guy all my life, I had five of their road bikes plus commuter at one point. Then they failed me on a customer service issue on a Project One Madone back around 2008. When I finally pulled the trigger on a new 2021 model this past fall... I bought a Giant TCR (which I am thrilled with).

That said... I had to search around and got very lucky to find the bike in the the size and color I wanted at a shop in my general area. My "Home Shop", which was also a Giant dealer told me it would be approx. 3 to 6 months to order the bike. So the long lead times are not just Trek. Remember, Giant builds the framesets for a lot of other manufacturers lines. Trek, and Specialized included.
Why were you a Trek guy? This is an honest question. What about that brand made you not consider other brands?
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Don't (almost) all brands have this issue at the moment?

Have you actually checked other brands or are you just thinking about it? Because if you haven't, you may be in for a bad surprise.

Though 11 months does sound a bit ridiculous. Though I was looking at Orbea recently and theirs was also like 9 months or so I think so who knows.
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The local shop owner I knew carried several brands, but I always gravitated towards the Treks from the outset. This was mid-90s...First Mt Bikes, (although I also bought and rode a Beautiful Klein Pulse II Pro MTB alongside my Treks for a few years).. Then later when I got into road cycling it just seemed natural to stick with the brand I'd had good luck with. I admit that Cannondale, Specialized etc... were also good bikes, I just was comfortable and preffered Treks.

After all those years and at least a dozen new bikes from them, they(Trek headquarters/corporate..not the dealer) treated me poorly on an issue with a Project One Madone SL I bought brand new. So when I finally went looking for a new ride, I bought a Giant TCR.
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FWIW, the biggest bike shop in Austin just changed from being "Bicycle Sport Shop" to "Trek Bikes Austin." they are exclusively a Trek dealer and a friend visited to report that the store is fully stocked with a wide range of bikes, clothing, accessories, etc. Trek found the inventory to stock that store somehow, so I am sure there's some favoritism based on the local market.
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Originally Posted by mack_turtle
FWIW, the biggest bike shop in Austin just changed from being "Bicycle Sport Shop" to "Trek Bikes Austin." they are exclusively a Trek dealer and a friend visited to report that the store is fully stocked with a wide range of bikes, clothing, accessories, etc. Trek found the inventory to stock that store somehow, so I am sure there's some favoritism based on the local market.
The stores in my area all look full... with hybrids, $700 mountain bikes and $1,700 gravel bikes. I went to three different shops over the holidays and asked for specific, less popular bikes like a 2021 Giant TCX Advanced Pro 0 or a 2021 Specialized Crux Pro or a 2021 Cannondale SuperX in size medium... and none of them would even take my order. Similarly, I've had notifications set up for several different bikes from Canyon and YT for months, they've never come back in stock.

I will say that I'm able to find components and clothing far more easily than the hype would lead me to believe.

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Originally Posted by mack_turtle
FWIW, the biggest bike shop in Austin just changed from being "Bicycle Sport Shop" to "Trek Bikes Austin." they are exclusively a Trek dealer and a friend visited to report that the store is fully stocked with a wide range of bikes, clothing, accessories, etc. Trek found the inventory to stock that store somehow, so I am sure there's some favoritism based on the local market.
Wow, BSS was a major player in cycling in Central Texas. My friend that owns the LBS here told me Trek is gobbling up large, locally owned bike shops around the country. Some, he said, have been taken over after a shop gets behind on their credit.
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