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Originally Posted by CoachPerry19
(Post 21980866)
If you shouldn't enter a race as a newbie because you might not be able to "hold your line" when and where would you learn how to "hold it"?
That's like telling somebody who wants to learn how to baseball that if you can't hit home runs you should maybe stick to monopoly. Tolerance for entry level questions seems to decrease with the number of posts. As for learning, a lot of people learn about bike handling in a group by doing group training rides. In my local area, there are at least 4 group rides per week that are fast-paced, aggressive, and simulate the kind of pack experience you get on race day. |
Originally Posted by CoachPerry19
(Post 21980866)
If you shouldn't enter a race as a newbie because you might not be able to "hold your line" when and where would you learn how to "hold it"?
That's like telling somebody who wants to learn how to baseball that if you can't hit home runs you should maybe stick to monopoly. Tolerance for entry level questions seems to decrease with the number of posts. |
Originally Posted by superdex
(Post 21980904)
weekday/weekend group rides, informal race-like group rides (seems every metro area has a local "Worlds" ride that's competitive and you hold on as long as you can), look for training series, or other beginner races. One club in this area has a specific "never raced before" race. It's first thing at 8am which stinks, but it's there. The intention is that if one is going to enter a race it shouldn't be the first time riding in a group. Shrug.
Also, many of the Cat 5 crits in NorCal have a mentor or two riding at the back and they'll do a post-ride debrief. |
Originally Posted by CoachPerry19
(Post 21980866)
That's like telling somebody who wants to learn how to baseball that if you can't hit home runs you should maybe stick to monopoly.
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Originally Posted by caloso
(Post 21980938)
In the Bay Area, there is a series of "early bird" criteriums specifically for newbies, with drills and mentors. They were cancelled this year because of, you know, but that's a great option for Cat 5s. In fact, I think that if you attended these, you'd get double credit towards your upgrade to 4.
Also, many of the Cat 5 crits in NorCal have a mentor or two riding at the back and they'll do a post-ride debrief. |
I can't give any advice but if it were me, I think I'd start as Cat 2, maybe in a Pro/1/2 race. Because that's easy to say when there's zero chance I'll ever enter a bike race.
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Originally Posted by wphamilton
(Post 21984760)
I can't give any advice but if it were me, I think I'd start as Cat 2, maybe in a Pro/1/2 race. Because that's easy to say when there's zero chance I'll ever enter a bike race.
Problem is, they won't let a novice into a Pro/1/2. |
Originally Posted by Koyote
(Post 21985114)
And it's more impressive to come in DFL in a Pro/1/2 race than to come in 3rd in a Cat 5.
Problem is, they won't let a novice into a Pro/1/2. |
Originally Posted by Koyote
(Post 21985114)
And it's more impressive to come in DFL in a Pro/1/2 race than to come in 3rd in a Cat 5.
Problem is, they won't let a novice into a Pro/1/2. |
I signed up for a 4 hour workshop next week for new racers that has an on the bike portion. Looking forward to that. And I also registered for my first race in June as a cat 5. Thanks to all.
chris |
Originally Posted by Chris O
(Post 21997218)
I signed up for a 4 hour workshop next week for new racers that has an on the bike portion. Looking forward to that. And I also registered for my first race in June as a cat 5. Thanks to all.
chris |
Originally Posted by Chris O
(Post 21997218)
I signed up for a 4 hour workshop next week for new racers that has an on the bike portion. Looking forward to that. And I also registered for my first race in June as a cat 5. Thanks to all.
chris |
Originally Posted by Rides4Beer
(Post 21973598)
As mentioned, don't let the Masters 45+ fool you, those guys are strong af.
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Keep those eyes peeled and head on a swivel on those Cat 5 races. Participants may have good power and mediocre bike handling skills or mistake riding recklessly for riding aggressively. Be alert on the turns and sprints, follow only the reliable wheels, and you'll be okay and have fun.
If I had it to do over again, I'd worry less about trying to win every crit and focus more on honing my ability to watch what other riders were doing, and learn who's safe to draft and who should be avoided. I learned that stuff quickly after my first crash on a final sprint. But after healing up and moving up a class it was more fun and the riders were significantly better skilled. And -- not to be a wet blanket -- but work out well in advance your plans for an emergency room, contacting family, etc. If you get a concussion you may not remember that stuff and probably won't be alert enough to inform strangers or race organizers. Keep that contact info, ER and insurance info readily available in a jersey pocket -- not on the bike which might become separated from you in an accident. Been there, done that. |
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