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Old 04-06-21, 07:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Cougrrcj View Post
I don't ride on anybody's wheel unless I ask - and likewise I won't let anybody ride on mine. I need to see your cycling ability/skill first. If (and the big IF) you can hold a steady line, steady speed, and watch/give hand signals for road hazard avoidance.

That said, 99.5% of the time I ride solo...
A few days ago I was riding around tipsy looking for someone fast to follow, and i met this dude on the tail end of a 100 mile ride. I offered to let him draft and then took off, and when I turn around a mile later there he is and I congratulate him on being able to keep up. I wasn't using hand signals or riding like he was there, as far as im concerned its his responsibility to manage his speed and distance from my wheel. He was an experienced cyclist and knew how to handle his bike, so even not knowing my abilities he felt safe to draft. I accidentally dropped him on a hill, and waited for him at the top before bombing down the other side. There was a stop sign that I ran at at least 30 mph, through moving traffic, was a bit sketchy (later regretted doing this because its scary to the cars.) So I guess my point is that if you are skilled, it doesn't really matter if you are drafting a reckless jackass, you can still safely be responsible for your safety. I get not wanting to draft with me though

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Old 04-06-21, 07:42 PM
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A few days ago I was riding around ...
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Old 04-06-21, 07:54 PM
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Originally Posted by OBoile View Post
I said this in another thread, but it bears repeating: drafting someone is essentially an exercise of following too closely. It's potentially dangerous for both you and the person in front. You shouldn't do it unless you have permission.
bro you can catch a draft off someone from up to 3 bike lengths away

Hell, you can draft a truck at a safe distance. I would never get right on your wheel

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Old 04-06-21, 08:08 PM
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Originally Posted by LarrySellerz View Post
I don't follow
You're a wheelsucker - of course you follow.
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Old 04-06-21, 08:13 PM
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Originally Posted by LarrySellerz View Post
bro you can catch a draft off someone from up to 3 bike lengths away

Hell, you can draft a truck at a safe distance. I would never get right on your wheel
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Old 04-06-21, 08:22 PM
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You're a wheelsucker - of course you follow.
Being offended or mad at "wheelsuckers" is such a weak move. Like dude, just drop me. If you can't, then slow down and let me past. Also, I chase people down, not to ride on their wheel but to show them up. Competitive fun. I love it when people pass me and give me something to chase
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Old 04-06-21, 08:25 PM
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Originally Posted by LarrySellerz View Post
Also, I chase people down, not to ride on their wheel but to show them up. Competitive fun. I love it when people pass me and give me something to chase
Do you drive like that?

Do you speed up when a car tried to pass?
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Old 04-06-21, 08:31 PM
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Originally Posted by GlennR View Post
Do you drive like that?

Do you speed up when a car tried to pass?
I don't drive, but no that sounds aggressive and possibly dangerous, I think racing everyone on the path is normal and all in good fun. Plus, if some dude in a mountain bike passes me its showing me that I need to work harder. speeding up when someone passes you is the norm I think
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Old 04-06-21, 08:32 PM
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Originally Posted by LarrySellerz View Post
A few days ago I was riding around tipsy looking for someone fast to follow, and i met this dude on the tail end of a 100 mile ride. I offered to let him draft and then took off, and when I turn around a mile later there he is and I congratulate him on being able to keep up. I wasn't using hand signals or riding like he was there, as far as im concerned its his responsibility to manage his speed and distance from my wheel. He was an experienced cyclist and knew how to handle his bike, so even not knowing my abilities he felt safe to draft. I accidentally dropped him on a hill, and waited for him at the top before bombing down the other side. There was a stop sign that I ran at at least 30 mph, through moving traffic, was a bit sketchy (later regretted doing this because its scary to the cars.) So I guess my point is that if you are skilled, it doesn't really matter if you are drafting a reckless jackass, you can still safely be responsible for your safety. I get not wanting to draft with me though
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Old 04-06-21, 08:34 PM
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I don't follow
Quelle surprise.
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Old 04-06-21, 08:37 PM
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Originally Posted by LarrySellerz View Post
I don't drive, but no that sounds aggressive and possibly dangerous, I think racing everyone on the path is normal and all in good fun. Plus, if some dude in a mountain bike passes me its showing me that I need to work harder. speeding up when someone passes you is the norm I think
There's always someone faster.

Sounds like a Napoleon complex.
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Originally Posted by LarrySellerz View Post
Being offended or mad at "wheelsuckers" is such a weak move. Like dude, just drop me. If you can't, then slow down and let me past. Also, I chase people down, not to ride on their wheel but to show them up. Competitive fun. I love it when people pass me and give me something to chase
You're killin' me Smalls - that was good stuff.
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Old 04-06-21, 09:13 PM
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Originally Posted by LarrySellerz View Post
bro you can catch a draft off someone from up to 3 bike lengths away

Hell, you can draft a truck at a safe distance. I would never get right on your wheel
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When I worked in Schenectady and lived in Albany this was the way to commute for me, couldn't do it Albany to Schenectady, it was a steady incline though shallow with poor light timing. But heading home if you hopped the right truck they knew the speed to time the lights and I could always stop faster then them so their brake lights were all the warning needed. Nothing like a 10mi ride at 40mph with a slight tail wind and a total draft.

OP, as others mentioned, just ask. I personally don't care if someone drafts but its safer for them if I know they're there. I'll actually warn if I'm about to stop or dodge a pothole, which I occasionally like to practice my bunny hopping skills on. If I know you're there I'll ride like it, if I don't, don't be surprised if I hop cracks, potholes or try to ride weird things, just practicing MTB skills where I don't have to worry about trees.
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Old 04-06-21, 09:46 PM
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Originally Posted by GlennR View Post
There's always someone faster.

Sounds like a Napoleon complex.
Im a tub of lard at 240 lbs, im under no delusion that im fast in the grand scheme of things. I just like racing people in a friendly way to get a good workout in.
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Old 04-06-21, 10:05 PM
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Did you ever think you "dropped them", because they were simply annoyed at your presence and slowed down to get rid of you?
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Drafting somebody is no different than tailgating somebody while driving . It's dumb, stupid and dangerous.
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I don't follow
Oh well.
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Im a tub of lard at 240 lbs, im under no delusion that im fast in the grand scheme of things. I just like racing people in a friendly way to get a good workout in.
Stop eating doughnuts. You'll get faster dropping 20 pounds than trying to race everyone.

I dropped 16 pounds in 10 weeks just by eating sensibly.
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I think racing everyone on the path is normal and all in good fun.
As in bike paths? It must be pretty satisfying to record those KOM(up)s.

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Stop eating doughnuts. You'll get faster dropping 20 pounds than trying to race everyone.

I dropped 16 pounds in 10 weeks just by eating sensibly.
I will add, stop drafting people. You will have to work harder to maintain speed that way, and will burn more calories.
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You're a wheelsucker - of course you follow.
I think he really tipped his hand with that one.
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Drafting is the only way i can keep up with fast cyclists. I got lucky this morning on my ride and was able to chase a fast guy for like 6 miles, we ran into another guy and they had a little cat 6 race and were drafting off each other, im pretty much dropped but killing myself chasing them. If I could have drafted along with them I might have been able to keep up
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Originally Posted by LarrySellerz View Post
Drafting is the only way i can keep up with fast cyclists.
Get a e-bike.

BTW, CAT6 is good for 1000mb speed.
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Originally Posted by LarrySellerz View Post
Drafting is the only way i can keep up with fast cyclists. I got lucky this morning on my ride and was able to chase a fast guy for like 6 miles, we ran into another guy and they had a little cat 6 race and were drafting off each other, im pretty much dropped but killing myself chasing them. If I could have drafted along with them I might have been able to keep up
You should stop while you're behind. I'd say stop while you're ahead, but you passed that point sometime before this thread.
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Old 04-07-21, 10:35 PM
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Id get an Ebike if I was gonna go like 50+ miles on the regular but otherwise hell no
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