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Old 04-13-21, 08:16 PM
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Lots of e-bikes (more like electric mopeds or electric motor scooters) here in China, and I pass them fairly frequently when riding as they are speed limited to about 30km/h by law. I get lots of looks and sometimes even thumbs up from the scooter drivers when I go past them. 😎
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Old 04-13-21, 09:27 PM
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Originally Posted by hazetguy View Post
fear not, there are several, more subtle references to "that thread" here. also see post 34 above .


"that thread", for those who might not know: I am sorry I have to drop you because you look like Lance
Thank you for posting that! What a thread.
The very first response by mirona , posted a mere minute after the OPs inane opening tale, is legendary.
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You may want to find a more realistic ‘friend’. Life is full of disappointments and being passed is off the low end of the scale for most sentient beings.
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Old 04-14-21, 02:05 PM
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On July 13, 1986, my time (rounded to the nearest minute) was the same as LeMond's for that day's Tour de France stage. I didn't ride quite as far, though.

I'm with Kahn. If I ride, I'll get passed. I might, but probably won't, pass another rider. I don;t have much trouble living with that.
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Old 04-14-21, 02:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Cheez View Post
Guys,
I ride both my old Raleigh M80 mountain bike and Trek 1400 road bike. I mostly ride on the road on the shoulder lane or bike lane. Once a while I run into other bike riders. I virtually always catch up to them.. I'm a fast rider (used to ride with racers and time trial athletes in group rides when I was young). I try to refrain myself from overtaking them cause I don't want to ruin their pride or hurt their feelings. I don't want them to have a bad rest of the day because of me. I even try to stay far back so I don't give the guy front me pressure.. Man, my Campy Record-equipped Trek 1400 bike just rolls with almost no resistance. Pedaling and the chain feel ultra smooth and firm..and my 23mm tires just cuts through wind like butter! It's real easy to go fast. One day I was riding my Raleigh mountain bike and taking a break at the intersection. I spotted a nice road racing bike rider passing by. He was in forward body lean position using his arrow bar on the handlebar and was going pretty fast! There was headwind too. I got stimulated and took pursuit to try to catch him in my mountain bike! 😄 It was a bit of challenge to catch up to him due to fairly strong headwind..he must've been going 18- 20 mph. If I pushed hard I would be able to catch up to him and pass him but I didn't...If I did that I would REALLY hurt the guys feeling. It's just wrong to be doing that. I don't want to exercise my pride. So I stayed far back. He had to stop for lights so I went even slower so that I don't intercept him. I ended up keep pedaling without stopping as I had green light at every intersection..

Oh and just today I caught up to an electric scooter rider and passed him in my road bike!... I was on the road and he was on the sidewalk. I think he was on full throttle..

Just wanted to share my story ☺️
,,,,,,,,, well I understand your whole view point but I get the impression you are sacrificing your ride or style of ride for other s feelings there are ways of passing slower riders simply come up on them announce your intentions like On Your Left and when you're ready do it modestly once you're past go ahead and pick up speed again ,,, it's not like you're laughing at them as you pass , hell you just might inspire a few , that way you can still get that Burn ,,,,, ?
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Old 04-14-21, 02:56 PM
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Originally Posted by SoSmellyAir View Post
Exactly. Passing or getting passed is irrelevant. The passing cyclist could be fresh and at the beginning of his or her ride, while the other cyclist is making his or her way home after a century.
That's the absolute best time to pass! Especially if they're so drained that they look like they're slogging along, just to get to the finish. You can tell by how they're going up a hill some times, head down and so methodical, that's the time to pounce. Take a few deep breaths first, so you can pretend it's nothing and you're not breathing hard, say something light hearted about how this hill always kills you as you get up next to them, then give em an amused look as you start to pull away. Going for that an adrenalin surge when you hit that right note of maybe obnoxious but not too insulting. Don't let on that you know he'd smoke you normally. But don't sprint away too fast, because you don't want him to give up - I yo-yo a bit in front, make him think he's catching me. Then time it right, to drop him before he gives up, so he can't use that as an excuse to himself.

It's the best, and for lots of those guys the only, time to pass them and make it stick. Think of it as doing them a favor, adding a little more motivation to their training.
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Old 04-14-21, 03:07 PM
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Originally Posted by GlennR View Post
Maybe they're waiting for you to pass so they can grab your draft and not have to "limp" the last 10 miles.

I've been there.

Maybe you should look into your nutrition. I've done 35+ centuries and only time I limped home the last 10 miles was the first century that helped me realize I needed better nutrition on the ride. After that I was finishing like a champ on centuries. 30 of which were solo and had no desire to draft anyone. Few of the centuries involved 10,000- 12,000 ft of gain and I still felt like a champ at the end. Tired yes, but limping, NO!
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Old 04-14-21, 03:23 PM
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Originally Posted by noimagination View Post
Oh yes, being passed on a ride just RUINS my day - matter of fact, I'm traumatized for WEEKS!!! (where's that rolling eyes emoji - oh, there it is)
The only time I was bothered by someone passing me was when I was riding my bike up a long shallow (3%) hill, losing speed as I went and was passed by a young woman running while pushing a two seat stroller with kids.

Im over 70, and at the time a new rider. She was definitely in great shape and much younger than me.

so, no shame, just dismay.
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Old 04-14-21, 04:59 PM
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i hate being passed by dump trucks. it's like a double whammy. Dumped by the dump truck. ffs c'mon!! tryin toe road bicycle herrrre!
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i hate being passed by dump trucks. it's like a double whammy. Dumped by the dump truck. ffs c'mon!! tryin toe road bicycle herrrre!
The honey wagons are even worse. S*** on by the s*** truck.
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Old 04-14-21, 07:25 PM
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Originally Posted by UCantTouchThis View Post
Maybe you should look into your nutrition. I've done 35+ centuries and only time I limped home the last 10 miles was the first century that helped me realize I needed better nutrition on the ride. After that I was finishing like a champ on centuries. 30 of which were solo and had no desire to draft anyone. Few of the centuries involved 10,000- 12,000 ft of gain and I still felt like a champ at the end. Tired yes, but limping, NO!
Maybe not everyone is in the same physical condition as you are.

I guess i'm just a failure, so i'll just give up on cycling and sit on the couch all day and yell at the cable news people.

HEY YOU KIDS, GET OFF THE GRASS.

Thanks for pointing out my failures.
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Old 04-14-21, 07:28 PM
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Originally Posted by gringomojado View Post
Does this hold true when you drive your car?
This is undoubtedly the best post in this entire thread.
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Old 04-14-21, 07:34 PM
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Originally Posted by wphamilton View Post
That's the absolute best time to pass! Especially if they're so drained that they look like they're slogging along, just to get to the finish. You can tell by how they're going up a hill some times, head down and so methodical, that's the time to pounce. Take a few deep breaths first, so you can pretend it's nothing and you're not breathing hard, say something light hearted about how this hill always kills you as you get up next to them, then give em an amused look as you start to pull away. Going for that an adrenalin surge when you hit that right note of maybe obnoxious but not too insulting. Don't let on that you know he'd smoke you normally. But don't sprint away too fast, because you don't want him to give up - I yo-yo a bit in front, make him think he's catching me. Then time it right, to drop him before he gives up, so he can't use that as an excuse to himself.

It's the best, and for lots of those guys the only, time to pass them and make it stick. Think of it as doing them a favor, adding a little more motivation to their training.
1. That pretty much describes me going uphill at any time except when immediately preceded by a longer and/or steeper downhill stretch.

2. During this pandemic I either pass or drop off, I am not going to yo yo in front of or behind someone.

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Old 04-14-21, 07:56 PM
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Originally Posted by SoSmellyAir View Post
This is undoubtedly the best post in this entire thread.
Look at Post #21.
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Maybe not everyone is in the same physical condition as you are.

I guess i'm just a failure, so i'll just give up on cycling and sit on the couch all day and yell at the cable news people.

HEY YOU KIDS, GET OFF THE GRASS.

Thanks for pointing out my failures.

I've seen you offer constructive criticism in thread after thread. But you sure aren't very good at taking it yourself. Just trying to help but if you consider yourself a failure, you should watch that cool video posted by Phil Gaimon in the other thread.
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Old 04-15-21, 12:05 PM
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I only have one rule about this. Never pass another cyclist and pass gas at the same time.
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Originally Posted by UCantTouchThis View Post
Maybe you should look into your nutrition. I've done 35+ centuries and only time I limped home the last 10 miles was the first century that helped me realize I needed better nutrition on the ride. After that I was finishing like a champ on centuries. 30 of which were solo and had no desire to draft anyone. Few of the centuries involved 10,000- 12,000 ft of gain and I still felt like a champ at the end. Tired yes, but limping, NO!

Anybody doing a "worst of BF posts" collection?
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Old 04-15-21, 12:14 PM
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Great thread!
I learned a new cycling term, considerate.
I'm not old and slow, I'm just being considerate.
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Originally Posted by livedarklions View Post
Anybody doing a "worst of BF posts" collection?

Says the guy who is still stuck in a world of posting Anti Lance comments trying to be funny after having heard the same comment for years.
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Old 04-15-21, 03:19 PM
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you are awesome

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Anybody doing a "worst of BF posts" collection?
If one could post multiple 'likes', ldl, you'd get 'em from me for this one. Kudos.
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If one could post multiple 'likes', ldl, you'd get 'em from me for this one. Kudos.

Well gee! Though I had done a few centuries in the 90's, I did several more in 2005. I faded on the first one. I had several posters on forums mention how they fueled properly allowing then to complete several long rides and brevets. I believe one of the posters was Machka who had completed some really good rides. I took the advice going on to do better on my rides. I don't remember whimpering about it when the advice was given. I guess some people can take advice without getting hurt about it.

I guess I'll have to tread lightly around the delicate flowers.
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I guess I'll have to tread lightly around the delicate flowers.
Or you could figure out how to give advice without the aggressive bragging.

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Or you could figure out how to give advice without the aggressive bragging.
You forgot to add the cute whistling emoji.
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Or you could figure out how to give advice without the aggressive bragging.
Oh my, now my feelings are hurt and I'm going to lay on my bed all night depressed and crying.
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