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Old 04-12-21, 09:46 AM
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Overtaking Other Bike Riders and Scooter Riders

Guys,
I ride both my old Raleigh M80 mountain bike and Trek 1400 road bike. I mostly ride on the road on the shoulder lane or bike lane. Once a while I run into other bike riders. I virtually always catch up to them.. I'm a fast rider (used to ride with racers and time trial athletes in group rides when I was young). I try to refrain myself from overtaking them cause I don't want to ruin their pride or hurt their feelings. I don't want them to have a bad rest of the day because of me. I even try to stay far back so I don't give the guy front me pressure.. Man, my Campy Record-equipped Trek 1400 bike just rolls with almost no resistance. Pedaling and the chain feel ultra smooth and firm..and my 23mm tires just cuts through wind like butter! It's real easy to go fast. One day I was riding my Raleigh mountain bike and taking a break at the intersection. I spotted a nice road racing bike rider passing by. He was in forward body lean position using his arrow bar on the handlebar and was going pretty fast! There was headwind too. I got stimulated and took pursuit to try to catch him in my mountain bike! 😄 It was a bit of challenge to catch up to him due to fairly strong headwind..he must've been going 18- 20 mph. If I pushed hard I would be able to catch up to him and pass him but I didn't...If I did that I would REALLY hurt the guys feeling. It's just wrong to be doing that. I don't want to exercise my pride. So I stayed far back. He had to stop for lights so I went even slower so that I don't intercept him. I ended up keep pedaling without stopping as I had green light at every intersection..

Oh and just today I caught up to an electric scooter rider and passed him in my road bike!... I was on the road and he was on the sidewalk. I think he was on full throttle..

Just wanted to share my story ☺️

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Old 04-12-21, 10:08 AM
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i have no problem passing others while out. passed a few yesterday. one couple was moving too slow for me up a short hill. passed and wound up making a strava PR. very surprised about that becasue i was behind them in slow mode for about half way up.
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passing a tandem always sparked the question of "why are you moving so much slower than even an average fat tire bicycle?" Two people with one bicycle, pedaling two cranks, & in linear fashion = easy faster speeds. Unless tandems just attract slow movers? I could not have a Daisy if I were to ride a tandem.

Passing someone should never hurt there ego, unless as you pass you point at them & yell "Ha Haaa!" in a Nelson voice.
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You are kind for being so considerate of others' feelings.
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Are arrow bars allowed on group rides?
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Have you bought that expensive full suspension mountain bike like you were commanded?
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Cheez, sounds like you are ready for some serious Cat 6 racing.
How about some racing videos to liven up this thread?
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You need to give them the look before passing.
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Originally Posted by Cheez View Post
...he must've been going 18- 20 mph.
You'll need to be more specific. I read somewhere recently that anything less than 19 is a waste of time.
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When I talk about how my chain feels ultra smooth and firm,

I do it in the soft porn section.
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Originally Posted by tomato coupe View Post
Are arrow bars allowed on group rides?

Take a bow for that arrow joke.
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Old 04-12-21, 11:37 AM
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Oh yes, being passed on a ride just RUINS my day - matter of fact, I'm traumatized for WEEKS!!! (where's that rolling eyes emoji - oh, there it is)
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Old 04-12-21, 11:48 AM
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Originally Posted by tomato coupe View Post
Are arrow bars allowed on group rides?
Oops I meant aero bars...but then you knew what I was talking about didn't ya 🤭

Originally Posted by mstateglfr View Post
Have you bought that expensive full suspension mountain bike like you were commanded?
No not yet...Out of stock. But it (Canyon Exceed CF7) will be available in a month. My parents just sent me $820! to help me get the bike!😁 But I still have to apply for financing ($700) as I have other things to buy also.

Originally Posted by CAT7RDR View Post
Cheez, sounds like you are ready for some serious Cat 6 racing.
How about some racing videos to liven up this thread?
What's Cat 6 racing?🤔 It's been a long time since I participated in a time trial in 91...
I will film my rides once I get the headcam action camera.

Originally Posted by indyfabz View Post
You need to give them the look before passing.
Oh that will make the matter worse.😦

Originally Posted by Reflector Guy View Post
You'll need to be more specific. I read somewhere recently that anything less than 19 is a waste of time.
Dude there was good 15+ mph headwind! If it wasn't for that he would be doing 24- 25 mph.

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Oh yes, being passed on a ride just RUINS my day - matter of fact, I'm traumatized for WEEKS!!! (where's that rolling eyes emoji - oh, there it is)
don't get mad at a passer, get glad, & put your phone in a bag so your sweat of rage doesnt ruin your phone.
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Old 04-12-21, 11:58 AM
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You are kind for being so considerate of others' feelings.
Thanks🙂 My friend told me treat others like the way you would like to be treated.

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Oh yes, being passed on a ride just RUINS my day - matter of fact, I'm traumatized for WEEKS!!! (where's that rolling eyes emoji - oh, there it is)
Thanks for sharing. Yeah I feel the same way too.
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I just bought a Canyon Exceed myself. a) it's a hardtail, not full suspension; b) it's super-value, but still quite a bit more than $820.
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I just bought a Canyon Exceed myself. a) it's a hardtail, not full suspension; b) it's super-value, but still quite a bit more than $820.
Oh, there was ONE medium size available several days ago it must've been you that bought it! That size is out of stock now 🤭
Oh and congrats on the bike.. it surely is super value. It has better stuff than other competing bikes like the $2700 Cannondale.. it's so hard to get bikes nowadays.

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Getting passed by other cyclists is such a minor unimportant issue that it doesn't even register with me...I've been passed by thousands of cyclists over the years and never felt offended or had my feelings hurt..
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Passing other riders is like passing other cars on cruise control -- some tender egos go nuts and have to re-pass you in either cast.

And of course, sometimes they're just sandbagging you looking for a race. A Mennonite buggy driver did that to me once on a bike ride (but I got him on the next downhill!).
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Rental electric scooters, at least, tend to be governed to 12 mph. Not very hard to pass one.
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Do you drive the same way?

Not passing others that a going slow?

Not passing a slower rider because you don't want to hurt their feelings is like youth sports where they don't keep score and everyone gets a participation trophy. I feel that just handicaps the kids and they don't learn valuable life lessons.

Now don't get me wrong, piling on against a weaker team is poor sportsmanship.

In a race with 1000 participants, only 1 will be the fastest. I really like when the winner comes back to the finish line to cheer on the last people.
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Passing other riders is like passing other cars on cruise control -- some tender egos go nuts and have to re-pass you in either cast.

And of course, sometimes they're just sandbagging you looking for a race. A Mennonite buggy driver did that to me once on a bike ride (but I got him on the next downhill!).
They just didn't want to put the cart before the horse, after already bugging you.
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Guys,
Once a while I run into other bike riders. I virtually always catch up to them.. I'm a fast rider (used to ride with racers and time trial athletes in group rides when I was young). I try to refrain myself from overtaking them cause I don't want to ruin their pride or hurt their feelings. I don't want them to have a bad rest of the day because of me. I even try to stay far back so I don't give the guy front me pressure..... If I pushed hard I would be able to catch up to him and pass him but I didn't...If I did that I would REALLY hurt the guys feeling. It's just wrong to be doing that. I don't want to exercise my pride. So I stayed far back. He had to stop for lights so I went even slower so that I don't intercept him.
It is also possible the other guy is just about worn out from a 100-mile ride and his knees are starting to ache and he is hoping to limp home before he collapses from exhaustion. He really won't mind if you pass him.
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When I pass a scooter, e-bike, or electric skateboard (or they pass me), I usually say something like “you do realize that’s cheating, right?” I get a lot of chuckles.
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Getting passed by other cyclists is such a minor unimportant issue that it doesn't even register with me...I've been passed by thousands of cyclists over the years and never felt offended or had my feelings hurt..
Exactly. Passing or getting passed is irrelevant. The passing cyclist could be fresh and at the beginning of his or her ride, while the other cyclist is making his or her way home after a century.

Although I must ashamedly admit that a couple of months ago, I was passed by a hybrid while climbing one of the local loops in my area.
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