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Night riding with coyotes.

Old 04-26-21, 05:16 PM
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Originally Posted by JohnnyB65
Itís going to be getting too hot for me to ride during the day soon and I want to start riding at night before bed time to help me sleep. Plus the full moon is coming up and Iíve always wanted to ride then. Iíve had to deal with dogs chasing me over the years and always managed to stop them by yelling commands.

I now live outside the city in the desert and we have lots of coyotes hunting at night so Iím not so sure if I can command them to stay away. I know they can take down a deer and Iíve been told that they can sense health weaknesses which worries me because Iím over 70 with health issues and canít really move that fast. Iíve heard many stories about bike riders being chased by cougars and bears, but never heard anything about coyotes.
I have encountered coyote myself in the past when I had foods with me. It will only follow you if it smells foods on you. My advice is don't carry foods that it will want.
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Old 04-26-21, 06:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Vaughan51
When I was mountain biking in Big Ben National Park I was worried more about rattle snakes coming out onto the warm asphalt at night and skunks. But then again I have a snake phobia (LOL)
I got bit in the back of my boot by a Mojave green rattlesnake and luckily it didnít break the skin. The venom was inside my boot and pants leg that irritated my calf as my paints leg rubbed my skin causing me to go into shock. I stopped at a fire station close by and they looked at it, Said I was lucky and washed off the venom. I rolled up my paints leg and tossed the boot before going home with only one shoe on.
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Originally Posted by friday1970
Sadly, they don't chase me anymore.
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Old 04-26-21, 06:28 PM
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I live in the Greater Los Angeles suburban wasteland and we have coyotes wandering the neighborhoods. Plenty of pets, raccoons, opossums, squirrels, birds, fruits and vegetables for them to feed on. I ride a lot in the early morning darkness during the week and see them regularly, never been worried about them attacking me. They keep their distance and are easily scared off if you try to approach them. Overall I consider them less of a threat than pet dogs.
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Originally Posted by downtube42
I don't get it. One death in 1986, of a 3yo snatched in the suburbs. Lightning kills more people. Hypothermia, heat exhaustion, hitting trees, falling down all kill more people. Pet dogs kill more people. Snake bites, tick bites, flesh eating bacteria. At least as many people - 1 - died of the bubonic plague in the US in that time period.

Again, why is this a competition? I know about those other things, and I take precautions to avoid several of them. There are increasing numbers of coyote encounters. and, if you're following this thread, you'd also know that coyotes are changing in some places as they breed with other critters.

Coyote attacks do happen, they are rarely fatal. I would want information on how to avoid them if I rode where there were a lot of coyotes.

By your logic, we shouldn't think about any risks other than heart attacks because they're the most likely fatal events.
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I don't see coyotes being an issue. I would be more concerned about distracted drivers.

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Originally Posted by onekgguy
I don't see coyotes being an issue. I would be more concerned about distracted drivers.

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If I lived somewhere where I saw coyotes more than once a decade, I could manage to watch out for both. And if you're exclusively riding single track, I'd think the rational person would be more concerned with coyotes than drivers.
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I'd rather not go out and be hunted by coyotes. I personally don't have experience "YET" with them and I don't want them to encounter.
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When I single-track, I often take an air-horn of compressed air, like the ones boats use to signal opening a bridge. Super loud and makes my ears ring. Had a conversation with a wild life officer and he recommended it for scaring off bears, coyotes and cougar. He said in his experience, it was the most effective.
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Originally Posted by rsbob
When I single-track, I often take an air-horn of compressed air, like the ones boats use to signal opening a bridge. Super loud and makes my ears ring. Had a conversation with a wild life officer and he recommended it for scaring off bears, coyotes and cougar. He said in his experience, it was the most effective.
Interesting. I have to wonder, though, how many times this has actually happened. Have you ever had to use it?
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Whenever I see the title of this thread "Nightswimming" by R.E.M. starts playing in my head.
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Originally Posted by livedarklions
If I lived somewhere where I saw coyotes more than once a decade, I could manage to watch out for both. And if you're exclusively riding single track, I'd think the rational person would be more concerned with coyotes than drivers.
Who said anything about singletrack?

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Originally Posted by onekgguy
Who said anything about singletrack?

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Sorry, I probably skipped a logical step. Point I was making is that there are riders who would have the opposite priorities.
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Single track or road riding where coyotes are prevalent or becoming aggressive makes no difference.

I hack-sawed off part of the horn to make it a bit more compact.


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think they have orange eyes at night--see 'em all the time here in Texas
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Originally Posted by rsbob
Single track or road riding where coyotes are prevalent or becoming aggressive makes no difference.

I hack-sawed off part of the horn to make it a bit more compact.


Does it fit in the bottle cage?
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Originally Posted by livedarklions
Does it fit in the bottle cage?
yes indeed. Might need a bit of extra padding to keep it in place
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Originally Posted by JohnnyB65
Itís going to be getting too hot for me to ride during the day soon and I want to start riding at night before bed time to help me sleep. Plus the full moon is coming up and Iíve always wanted to ride then. Iíve had to deal with dogs chasing me over the years and always managed to stop them by yelling commands.

I now live outside the city in the desert and we have lots of coyotes hunting at night so Iím not so sure if I can command them to stay away. I know they can take down a deer and Iíve been told that they can sense health weaknesses which worries me because Iím over 70 with health issues and canít really move that fast. Iíve heard many stories about bike riders being chased by cougars and bears, but never heard anything about coyotes.
What a noble way to go.
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I forgot to say you can also use the air horn on inattentive drivers. Wish I had it with me yesterday when doing a Strava segment for a PR and an SUV stopped at stop sign perpendicular to me on my right. There was zero traffic in either direction for her and she was looking into the sun, which was my direction. I was at 23 MPH and braked hard about 50 feet from her since I felt she did not see me thus destroying my PR but perhaps saving an accident.

I know companies sell purpose made air horns for bikes but if you had one handy anyway...
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Don't know if my anecdotes are worth anything to you, but I've seen coyotes twice, both earlyish in the morning:
- in a meadow on an winter 'hike' in a park in the local suburb - two coyotes about half a mile away ahead, watching me already when I noticed them. I kept walking and it took them 5 seconds to scurry into the woods; never got closer to them than that
- on the road near a golf course on a ride, about a quarter mile away - it ran alongside the road, then scurried off to the golf course, never stopping watching me and my riding buddy

These were New England coyotes and not in a pack, so YMMV. I'm not to worried about them. They do attack dogs around here though.
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I was raised on the farm . We hunted coyotes as a sport. In fact some neighbors bought new trucks, bought and trained greyhounds and built boxes on the trucks for the dogs and went hunting. It is a sport like Fox and hounds.

Having said that, coyotes are cowards. They avoid active people unless rabid. They sneak in at night to steal chickens, they may kill pets. I moved into a new office building at the edge of town and we saw one coyote stroll by our building to go to scout the dumpsters behind restaurants 1/2 mile away. Wolves are aggressive types.
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