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Would you upgrade tires first or saddle?

Old 05-04-21, 09:46 AM
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Originally Posted by phughes View Post
Once again, make sure you are not over inflating your tires. Many people pump tires to the maximum pressure stated on the tire sidewall. Generally that is not the tire pressure you want, and it will result in a harsh ride. Check the correct tire pressure for your weight including the bike weight. Simply buying new tires will be a waste unless you get this part right.

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Some does it to reduce rolling resistance to a minimum which ironically doesn't always work as intended.

For any sort of bumpy surface, such practice would even slow you down as greater magnitude of shocks are transmitted to the frame and the rider. Our bodies is definitely not as efficient as tires in absorbing road shocks
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Old 05-04-21, 12:13 PM
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Originally Posted by cubewheels View Post
Some does it to reduce rolling resistance to a minimum which ironically doesn't always work as intended.

For any sort of bumpy surface, such practice would even slow you down as greater magnitude of shocks are transmitted to the frame and the rider. Our bodies is definitely not as efficient as tires in absorbing road shocks
I am aware of what some people do regarding tire pressure. I was speaking to the OP's issue of a harsh ride. Most likely his tires are over inflated. It simply one thing to check. Even putting wider tires on the bike won't help if the OP pumps the tires up to the max pressure shown on the sidewall, they will still get a harsh ride.

But hey, throw money at the problem.
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Old 05-04-21, 07:56 PM
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Originally Posted by phughes View Post
I am aware of what some people do regarding tire pressure. I was speaking to the OP's issue of a harsh ride. Most likely his tires are over inflated. It simply one thing to check. Even putting wider tires on the bike won't help if the OP pumps the tires up to the max pressure shown on the sidewall, they will still get a harsh ride.

But hey, throw money at the problem.
Agreed. But his roads are totally horrific!

I inflate my 35mm wide tires only 40 psi back and 35 psi front (below min inflation pressure!!) and the ride is still a bit harsh on those poor quality roads. The 35mm wide tires definitely made it tolerable....But there are times I wish I had even wider tires like 50mm!! If only for safety's sake as some road sections turn really technical due to erosion and many years of neglect.
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Old 05-04-21, 08:18 PM
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Originally Posted by cubewheels View Post
Agreed. But his roads are totally horrific!

I inflate my 35mm wide tires only 40 psi back and 35 psi front (below min inflation pressure!!) and the ride is still a bit harsh on those poor quality roads. The 35mm wide tires definitely made it tolerable....But there are times I wish I had even wider tires like 50mm!! If only for safety's sake as some road sections turn really technical due to erosion and many years of neglect.
Once again, completely irrelevant if he pumps the tires up to the max pressure. That is all I am saying.
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Old 05-04-21, 09:16 PM
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Originally Posted by phughes View Post
Once again, completely irrelevant if he pumps the tires up to the max pressure. That is all I am saying.
That's right.

Ironically, even sidewall indicated *min* pressure can be excessive as well if the rider is light enough. If I remember correclty, OP weighs 60 kilos.

I weigh 125 lbs and my calculated inflation pressure is considerably lower than my 35mm wide tires min pressure. Calculated is 45 back, 39 front in psi. Min pressure of my tire is 60 psi while max is 90 psi.

I once inflated the back tire to 60 psi (min pressure) for carrying groceries but when the groceries are gone, the ride was incredibly harsh and kept bouncing around. I let some of the air out to get pressure back to 40 psi.
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Old 05-05-21, 08:58 AM
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Originally Posted by djdelarosa25 View Post
Say you have an entry-level road bike with 25 mm tires. The roads you ride on are pretty harsh and the saddle is meh but you could do better. If you're strapped for cash, do you upgrade to wider tires first before they wear out or go buy a better saddle for you and wear out your current pair first?
Tires can make a big difference in comfort, but some road bikes dont have clearance for wide tires. If there is clearance and saddle is ok Id go for tires. If saddle is awful Id replace that first.
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Old 05-05-21, 09:00 AM
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Originally Posted by wolfchild View Post
It will take a couple of rides to figure out if the saddle needs to be changed...The first thing I would do is to go on a few rides and try out few different adjustments before replacing anything.
This is good advice.
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Old 05-05-21, 09:56 AM
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both. but if had to pick, saddle
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Originally Posted by BikingViking793 View Post
Tires can make a big difference in comfort, but some road bikes dont have clearance for wide tires. If there is clearance and saddle is ok Id go for tires. If saddle is awful Id replace that first.
To be clear, the tire upgrade suggestion is to provide more durability & reliability. However, most of the time I've increased comfort in conjunction with the durability & reliability when picking out a preferred set of tires. A pair of tires can cost about the same as a good comfortable seat. Biggest difference of the two is the replacement process. I do all my own tires if time allows, so no impact on service costs.
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Old 05-05-21, 12:40 PM
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To the OP: without knowing your budget, it is hard to give a specific answer.

Secondly, find some better roads. No tire is going to be a panacea for crappy tarmac.
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