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Wouldn't you get a better workout with a heavier bike ?

Old 05-03-21, 04:53 PM
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Were they aware of the "race"?
Thatís not how Cat 6 works
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Old 05-03-21, 04:54 PM
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I understand not buying a cheap Walmart bike as it wonít last many miles. But unless youíre racing, why pay thousands of dollars extra for a super lightweight bike. I suppose some people just have money to burn.
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Old 05-03-21, 05:31 PM
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I understand not buying a cheap Walmart bike as it wonít last many miles. But unless youíre racing, why pay thousands of dollars extra for a super lightweight bike. I suppose some people just have money to burn.
There's always an argument to be made for things that are merely "Really Good!" over things that are "Really, REALLY Good!!!". Mostly these revolve around affordability vs diminishing returns. But, you know, some people DO have the money to burn, and can, or think they can, feel the difference. If you have the money to buy a Specialized Aethos or similar, why not?
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Old 05-03-21, 05:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Sy Reene View Post
Though, is a longer 'workout' also a 'better workout'?
"Better" is relative to your goals. I might do a workout of multiple high-intensity intervals that leaves me trashed, but because of low-intensity rest periods, my average watts might be fairly low. That could be a very "good" workout. I could do a steady-state tempo ride for a much longer total duration, and a higher average watts, but finish feeling very fresh. That could also be a very "good" workout...or not.

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Old 05-03-21, 06:29 PM
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Originally Posted by bikehoco View Post
I understand not buying a cheap Walmart bike as it wonít last many miles. But unless youíre racing, why pay thousands of dollars extra for a super lightweight bike. I suppose some people just have money to burn.
You don't need to get the lightest and most expensive and most sophiscated racing bike out there...You can get a good quality hybrid bike or an entry level road bike or a gravel bike or a mountain bike for around $1500 - $2500, that's not much...Spending a little extra is worth it if you plan on doing any amount of riding
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Old 05-03-21, 06:33 PM
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Originally Posted by 10 Wheels View Post
You will become Stronger.

Toured on a 35 LB bike. NY to LA.
Arriving in CA going Up a Long hill, I was able to pass Three Local Club Riders (in their Team Kits and Road Bikes).
Nonsense.

You have no idea what shape these three riders were in. "Team kits" means nothing.

There's no real reason you couldn't have gotten in the same sort of shape with a lighter setup.

Many cyclists stronger than you don't use heavy crap.

Originally Posted by 10 Wheels View Post
I Became Stronger.
You became stronger by riding harder. You can ride hard on a light bike.

You've been a member here long enough to know better than the nonsense you are pushing.

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Old 05-03-21, 07:00 PM
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Cross off your bingo card for "unless you're racing, you don't need ______"
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let tire air out for more exercise
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Old 05-03-21, 07:36 PM
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For the best workouts get heavier wheels. Rotating weight matters!
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Old 05-03-21, 08:08 PM
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For the best workouts get heavier wheels. Rotating weight matters!
Just gain 20 pounds, You'll burn more calories and you don't have to buy a different bike.
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Originally Posted by Sy Reene View Post
In theory, a lighter bike, and expending the same effort (ie. watts), one would have finished that journey sooner, so having spent less time cycling at the same output, no?
That's possibly fewer calories burned, but less muscle mass lost. I have no idea which would make you stronger.
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Originally Posted by Sy Reene View Post
Though, is a longer 'workout' also a 'better workout'?
For what purpose? And there has to be a point of diminishing returns when you're talking weeks.
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Old 05-03-21, 08:27 PM
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For the maximum workout, buy a 50 pound bike and store it on the second floor between rides. Don't use an elevator.
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A heavy bike isn't that harder to pedal than lightweight bike unless you're dealing with lots of climbs.

In the flats, aerodynamics and rolling resistance of the tires would matter more than weight and if you cruise at >18 mph

So if you live in the flats, you can go with lightweight bike and if you like extra workout, just wear loose shirt or jacket that flaps and balloons like a small parachute in the wind! You can also use low TPI touring tires for even more resistance (and those tires last very long!)
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Originally Posted by livedarklions View Post
For the maximum workout, buy a 50 pound bike and store it on the second floor between rides. Don't use an elevator.
There's a part of my ride where I need to carry/walk my bike up a flight of stairs to the next road, equivalent height of 2nd floor.

Sometimes, the bike is loaded 40 lbs and I'm a lightweight person (125 lbs). It's the most annoying part of the ride!
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Originally Posted by cubewheels View Post
A heavy bike isn't that harder to pedal than lightweight bike unless you're dealing with lots of climbs.

In the flats, aerodynamics and rolling resistance of the tires would matter more than weight and if you cruise at >18 mph

So if you live in the flats, you can go with lightweight bike and if you like extra workout, just wear loose shirt or jacket that flaps and balloons like a small parachute in the wind! You can also use low TPI touring tires for even more resistance (and those tires last very long!)

Alternatively, weight the bike, buy a snorkel, and ride it in a five foot deep swimming pool filled with Jello.
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Old 05-03-21, 09:02 PM
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I think the OP watched the Anime "Yowamushi Pedal" where the protagonist is able to pedal up a mountain on a 1 speed bike making him almost invincible when he joins a team and becomes their "Hill Climb Specialist"



Too bad it doesn't work that way. Otherwise every rider who puts 70lbs of luggage on their bikes for traveling would easily blow past the best racers in a long distance race.
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Just gain 20 pounds, You'll burn more calories and you don't have to buy a different bike.
Gain? Some of us are doing all we can just to maintain!

I also resent the common sentiment that thin people need to gain weight before they have "earned" the right to buy a heavy bike.
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Iíll go one better than a 30lb bike. Between kids and Covid, Iíve gained 25-30lbs on myself in the last few years.

However, training with that extra weight on has not made me any faster. Thus I must reject the hypothesis of this OP.
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Originally Posted by livedarklions View Post
For what purpose? And there has to be a point of diminishing returns when you're talking weeks.
For a bitesize shorter example. How about a city dweller, who's looking for some exercise by daily biking his commute to/from work. 10 miles each way. He could opt to ride his relatively lightweight road bike, or grab a 45lb bikeshare on the corner.
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Originally Posted by Sy Reene View Post
For a bitesize shorter example. How about a city dweller, who's looking for some exercise by daily biking his commute to/from work. 10 miles each way. He could opt to ride his relatively lightweight road bike, or grab a 45lb bikeshare on the corner.
Exactly. "Better workout" does not need to equal training to be faster, no matter how many times the racer wannabes say so while rushing to defend their choice of $$$$ featherweight bikes. Maybe they use carbon fiber dumbbells for a better workout while weight training in the gym too!
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Originally Posted by bikehoco View Post
I understand not buying a cheap Walmart bike as it wonít last many miles. But unless youíre racing, why pay thousands of dollars extra for a super lightweight bike. I suppose some people just have money to burn.
Buy a quality product, and it will last as long as you can avoid the "gotta have the latest and greatest" urge.
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I agree with the OP. I have an 80 lb bike. If I want a better workout I just decrease the power setting. If I wanna cheat or rest, I just go up a power setting or two. If I wanna pas a roadie, turbo.
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Originally Posted by Sy Reene View Post
For a bitesize shorter example. How about a city dweller, who's looking for some exercise by daily biking his commute to/from work. 10 miles each way. He could opt to ride his relatively lightweight road bike, or grab a 45lb bikeshare on the corner.

Or he could ride the entire route on the lightweight bike on a 53x11 gear ratio. Read the thread, no one's arguing that distance is the variable to determine the quality of the workout.
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Originally Posted by cbrstar View Post
I think the OP watched the Anime "Yowamushi Pedal" where the protagonist is able to pedal up a mountain on a 1 speed bike making him almost invincible when he joins a team and becomes their "Hill Climb Specialist"



Too bad it doesn't work that way. Otherwise every rider who puts 70lbs of luggage on their bikes for traveling would easily blow past the best racers in a long distance race.
Uses a bell. My kind of cyclist!
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