I've been very happy with my Super Pro, about 2yrs old now. When I broke my Garmin Edge 200, I initially was shocked the current lowest cost model was double what I paid for the 200. I started researching Lezyne looking for something ballpark $100. The Pro was $150, but I thought worth the features so I "splurged". Still impressed that Leyne has a sub $100 unit and a $100 unit.

Ended up getting the Xoss on Amazon for $24.90 with applied coupon! It was exactly what I was looking for and is working great. I downloaded the app and that works great too...Thanks to all for the imput and suggestions!!! Gotta love this forum 👍👍👍

Yup, the XOSS G+ is a great buy if you can get it cheaper than the $50 list price. I have no real complaints about mine.

BTW, if you want to save some money, don't bother with a speed sensor. For example, XOSS and many others make earth induction sensors that are convertible between use as speed sensors on the wheel hub or cadence sensors on the crank arm. Usually the conversion is done by removing and replacing the coin battery while checking for the LED color change (blue and red).

I've compared many rides using GPS only and various speed sensors. There's rarely any significant difference. I'm wondering whether my phone apps (usually Wahoo Fitness) and XOSS G+ really do use data from the speed sensor, or whether they always default to GPS. But there's rarely any significant difference between the GPS and speed sensor data.

So I usually put the XOSS speed/cadence sensor on the crank arm for checking my cadence.

I also have a couple of older Wahoo speed/cadence sensors. These are ANT+ only, with both speed and cadence sensors wired together, with the unit zip-tied to the chainstay. Magnets are attached to the wheel and crank arm. This tends to be a bit more reliable than the XOSS brand earth induction sensor in cadence mode, which occasionally shows wildly inaccurate cadence (no way am I churning faster than 160 rpm).

The only time I pay attention to cadence is during deliberate workout drills on the indoor trainer, alternating between spinning 90 rpm or faster for aerobic workouts, and mashing 60 rpm or slower to work the legs. But on outdoor rides I seldom look at the cadence readout.

I used to average 90 rpm but as I got older (63 now) and lost aerobic capacity I realized I was more efficient at a slower cadence. So now I average 75 rpm. And instead of spinning up climbs and gassing out while preserving the legs, I usually stand and stomp up our many short, steep climbs around 50-60 rpm. My legs are usually close to getting cooked by the peak, but my lungs aren't burning and I'm not gasping for breath.

BTW, the XOSS has an audible alarm that can be set, via the app, to sound a beeping alert when we exceed our preset heart rate. I find that helpful for warning me when I'm approaching my maximum heart rate, so I know that I can maintain that effort for only 30-60 seconds before burning out. My max HR is 173 and I set the alarm for 160 bpm.

Thanks a lot. I watched a video review and the guy said the backlight stays on from 6-9am and you can't turn it off. I thought that was odd because it will drain the battery. It seems like it would make it hard to see the screen when the sun it up. Do you have an issue with that?

And on another subject, I wonder if companies will start making gps's that are super thin like cell phones are today. I'm sure they will. The one thing about gps's I don't like are that they're so boxy.

Not likely or not anytime soon. Physics doesn't really allow it.


Many complain that the Garmin 1030 is too big due to it's big screen.

You need volume for the battery. A thinner 1030 would need a bigger screen.

The Karoo 1 is quite large (as far as cycling computers go). The Karoo 2 is a "more reasonable" size but he battery life is significantly worse.

People also want the things at a reasonable cost.

There's a trade off for size, thinness, battery life, and cost. Thinness is the least important, by far, of the four.
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People complain that phone batteries don't last long enough. One reason for that is because manufactures favor making them thinner.

Wow, I don't recall it being that inexpensive when I was looking for a wireless computer for my son. Would have gladly spent the extra $5 over the basic sensor one I got with unintelligible instructions and batteries that have to be replaced.