Originally Posted by AdkMtnMonster

A lot of older, financially stable women love that John. Call themselves Cougars. Then there’s the set of fans that celebrate his entire collected works. They’re called Mellenheads. For obvious reasons.

Originally Posted by livedarklions

Golf is about social networking as much as it's a game. Bicycling has some of that, but golf has attributes that make it really suitable for the purpose. Let's be serious, all high-end sporting equipment can be used for status symbol purposes, so golfing with expensive equipment at the finest course makes a very strong status statement. Also, the nature of the competition is not physically exhausting, so you can "play hard" and keep talking the whole time. You get super-competitive in a biking activity, and the social interaction drops to nothing. Finally, it's a heck of a lot easier to get sloshed while golfing.

Hunting used to be used in this way among the wealthy, but that's problematic with the killing, guts and blood stuff. Also, getting sloshed while shooting is a bit nerve-racking.

Originally Posted by seypat

How does Bob Seger figure into that?

Originally Posted by livedarklions

OK, but if all of them were alive and at their physical primes, which one would win a bike race?

And have you ever seen the Big Bang Theory scenes on YouTube with the laugh track edited out? You can't even figure out which parts are supposed to be the jokes. It's all bland insults.

Originally Posted by 70sSanO

My point was that like a lot of equipment based sports, having the means dictates the level of equipment and golf is the most over-the-top equipment based sport I can think of where the less skill and the more means drives a continual upgrade investment level; the more you suck, the more you spend.

Higher skilled golfers I know are not constantly upgrading, and it is not uncommon to find a 5-10 year old club in their bag that just works right for them.

And on top of that you can’t even hit a ball without paying money.

John

Originally Posted by ksryder

Kravitz probably, pretty sure the rest were drunk and high in their primes.

BBT is what dumb people think smart people sound like.

Originally Posted by Reflector Guy

I'm probably alone in the world for thinking this way, but I get annoyed when the display on the car radio calls him "John Mellencamp" when it plays one of his older songs like "Hurts So Good", when he was still John Cougar. Heck, even a brand-new CD still calls him John Cougar to this day! So because I am old and stubborn I still call him John Cougar even when I hear his newer stuff. And I still call the ballpark in KC "Royals Stadium".

Now, get off my lawn!

Originally Posted by ksryder

If the fact the "The Big Bang Theory" lasted 12 seasons taught us anything it's to never underestimate the appeal of aggressive mediocrity.

On a related dad rock hill I'm prepared to die on: Lenny Kravitz is a poor man's Stevie Ray Vaughn is a poor man's Eric Clapton is a poor man's Jimi Hendrix.

(Ok I'm mostly kidding about the Clapton part).

Originally Posted by 70sSanO

My point was that like a lot of equipment based sports, having the means dictates the level of equipment and golf is the most over-the-top equipment based sport I can think of where the less skill and the more means drives a continual upgrade investment level; the more you suck, the more you spend.

Higher skilled golfers I know are not constantly upgrading, and it is not uncommon to find a 5-10 year old club in their bag that just works right for them.

And on top of that you can’t even hit a ball without paying money.

John

Originally Posted by ksryder

Kauffman set things up so that it would be really, really hard for any subsequent owners to move the Royals to a different market, so we're all mostly OK with calling it Kauffman stadium.

Originally Posted by livedarklions

Totally, I was just explaining my theory, not disagreeing with you.

Originally Posted by AdkMtnMonster

A lot of older, financially stable women love that John. Call themselves Cougars. Then there’s the set of fans that celebrate his entire collected works. They’re called Mellenheads. For obvious reasons.

Originally Posted by noimagination

Four pages!

OP got us good - gold star for him/her.

Originally Posted by ksryder

If the fact the "The Big Bang Theory" lasted 12 seasons taught us anything it's to never underestimate the appeal of aggressive mediocrity.

On a related dad rock hill I'm prepared to die on: Lenny Kravitz is a poor man's Stevie Ray Vaughn is a poor man's Eric Clapton is a poor man's Jimi Hendrix.

(Ok I'm mostly kidding about the Clapton part).

Originally Posted by seypat

I saw Clapton back in the late 80's. He had the misfortune of having to follow Buckwheat Zydeco. Once you've witnessed the legend that was Buckwheat Zydeco, every other performer is kind of dull and bland.(GWAR being the exception)

Originally Posted by seypat

BTW, why doesn't Jeff Healy ever get mentioned in the same breath with this crowd?

Originally Posted by krakhaus

I've always wondered if there are people who are rabid Mellencamp fans. Like they own every bit of merchandise and bootlegs, and follow him around on tour. I'm just curious if those people exist. Same goes for bands like Huey Lewis and the News or any of those really mediocre radio rock bands.

Originally Posted by 70sSanO

I used “usually” because with the advancement of e-bikes, ability is greatly diminished. As they become lighter and more stealthy, having the means and the technology, you won’t need to train to be fast.

Originally Posted by krakhaus

That would give you a lot more time to watch the Big Bang Theory, which is what I imagine the E-bike crowd doing in their off time.

Originally Posted by ksryder

To be fair I'd love an ebike for my 30-mile commute to work. The distance isn't a problem but the time it takes is -- I can't be spending 3.5 hours a day biking to and from work plus my work doesn't have shower access.

But I can't justify the expense at this point. Oh well. Guess I'll go back to wearing lycra on my fast bike on the weekends even though I'm never going to race except for the times that I do.

Originally Posted by krakhaus

That would give you a lot more time to watch the Big Bang Theory, which is what I imagine the E-bike crowd doing in their off time.

Originally Posted by Koyote

I saw Clapton once in the '80s, too. They did "Layla" for the encore, and it sounded out-of-tune. Not being very musical, I made sure to read the newspaper review the next day, which noted the same thing - confirmation!

Later, I got into the blues very deeply, and realized that there are LOTS of guitarists who put Clapton to shame.