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Quite a few generalizations about the capabilities of e-bikers. My wife has one and we rode singles and a tandem with me for 35 years. On her e-bike she uses the same skill set as on her single road bike. And I do draft her when there are ferocious head winds to make my life easier. So much for generalizations
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Originally Posted by fooferdoggie
(Post 22050360)
when I was sicker and used more assist I was going about 27 on a clear bike path when a roadie drafted me . got a kick out of it when then I turned he kept it up. but now I use my e bike like a regular bike but go faster I try to keep my heart rate in the 130s or higher. so Idont feel good passing others well unless its as a fat e bike with someone hardly or not peddling at all. nothing getting your heart racing and putting out 600 watts to pass them uphill.
Edit: also there is generally way too much ebike hate. I don’t get it at all. How does someone else “cheating” effect you unless they crash into you |
Originally Posted by rsbob
(Post 22050367)
Quite a few generalizations about the capabilities of e-bikers. My wife has one and we rode singles and a tandem with me for 35 years. On her e-bike she uses the same skill set as on her single road bike. And I do draft her when there are ferocious head winds to make my life easier. So much for generalizations
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Originally Posted by rsbob
(Post 22050367)
Quite a few generalizations about the capabilities of e-bikers. My wife has one and we rode singles and a tandem with me for 35 years. On her e-bike she uses the same skill set as on her single road bike. And I do draft her when there are ferocious head winds to make my life easier. So much for generalizations
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Originally Posted by caloso
(Post 22050015)
Same. I have yet to come across an e bike rider I’d feel confident drafting.
The other group are the idiots who are trying to end-around the local laws forbidding gas motor dirt bikes on streets and greenways by buying these 1000w+ e-bikes with motor bike tires and throttles that bash around as if it is a motocross race. The commuters, probably could draft fine, but legit commuters usually don't own "modded" throttled e-bike dirt bike style bikes. So theirs has the factory speed limiter. Meaning you would be faster down a hill past them, then slower up the hill. So wouldn't work really to draft unless it was really flattish. |
It is past due to have the forever e-bike thread.
It will be cathartic. I promise. :p |
Now I think most e bike riders are people who never rode biles much. me I put over 15,00 miles commuting before I got my e bike. the nI got it it I put 9000 on it in a year between my commute and my e tandem with my wife.
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I would not draft any of the eBikes I see on the roads the OP rides. They do not inspire confidence. In addition, they mostly pass me going uphill, where drafting would be useless, and downhill I'm usually faster than their speed limiter. I'm also picturing some poor schmo on an eBike, working himself and his motor as hard as possible to avoid being speared by the OP's copper piping "aero bars".
Anyone can draft me anytime they want, as long as they don't mind the periodic snot rockets. |
Someone mentions previously about hating ebikes. I don't hate ebikes, I don't hate cars, or other forms of transpo, including road bikes. It's the idiot operators that I hate. Too many don't even realize that there are rules (enforceable no less) of the road. If someone respects the rules of the road, I'll respect them. Until then,...
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Originally Posted by Bigbus
(Post 22050646)
Someone mentions previously about hating ebikes. I don't hate ebikes, I don't hate cars, or other forms of transpo, including road bikes. It's the idiot operators that I hate. Too many don't even realize that there are rules (enforceable no less) of the road. If someone respects the rules of the road, I'll respect them. Until then,...
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I trust NO ONE so if i'm drafting, i'm a safe distance behind and not "on their wheel".
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Good luck drafting my ebike. No limiter, it can bury any road rider.
But used responsibly it is a lot of fun. |
Originally Posted by Pop N Wood
(Post 22050701)
Good luck drafting my ebike. No limiter, it can bury any road rider.
But used responsibly it is a lot of fun. |
Originally Posted by UCantTouchThis
(Post 22050691)
Well. it was the last 7 mile stretch of my 45 mile ride. Flat and few obstacles so I push myself some to burn extra energy I have. So for this 7 mile stretch, sometimes I am going faster than 22 (might see 24 on the screen) and sometimes a little slower (might see 19).
This last stretch 22.8 for 7+ miles. Number 2,474 our of 26,013 riders. Yeah, there are a lot of riders here in Calif. And that is my solo effort. Who knows what the others are doing to get those speeds as I never see guys going that fast. I know one guy who is superfast and he averages about 24. I'm guessing the other guys are in big packs, just my guess. For the 45, average can be from 17 to 19 MPH average speed. Good enough for me. So out of 26,000 riders, I guess around 2,000 ain't bad. I ain't fast but I ain't slow. :D I rarely see ebikes doing 45+ mile rides out here. Most I see are very short, 20 'ish that I notice but I could be wrong. So doing a decent 45 mile rides, why would I NEED an ebike? Last stretch of 7 miles on the 45. I am somewhere along the way cruising at 22. :thumb: https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...2ab0cd838c.jpg |
Within the past year four of my riding friends have gone to ebikes. They are all in their 70s and had medical issues that slowed them to the point they couldn't ride with their long time (10-15 years) group. We are happy to have them back. I would draft any but one, he's always been a squirrel. :rolleyes: Another guy's bike cuts out at 20mph, so no help there in a draft. They all ride courteously and don't blast by folks on hills except as the occasional joke. It's kind of cool to have someone along who can cover ground quickly and effortlessly. Just this week one of the ebikers volunteered to go off in search of an errant newbie. :thumb:
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If I draft an E-BSO I try to make sure the USB cord is compatible with it, to siphon some quick charging for my E-Equipment.
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Originally Posted by fooferdoggie
(Post 22050397)
Now I think most e bike riders are people who never rode biles much. me I put over 15,00 miles commuting before I got my e bike. the nI got it it I put 9000 on it in a year between my commute and my e tandem with my wife.
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Originally Posted by LarrySellerz
(Post 22050732)
Thats sick, thanks for being out there, most ebikes aren't very fast. If you blew by me id say something and kill myself trying to get on your draft
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Originally Posted by LarrySellerz
(Post 22050812)
Holy **** there are etandems?!! Thats so cool!!!!
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dupe
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Originally Posted by UCantTouchThis
(Post 22050691)
Well. it was the last 7 mile stretch of my 45 mile ride. Flat and few obstacles so I push myself some to burn extra energy I have. So for this 7 mile stretch, sometimes I am going faster than 22 (might see 24 on the screen) and sometimes a little slower (might see 19).
This last stretch 22.8 for 7+ miles. Number 2,474 our of 26,013 riders. Yeah, there are a lot of riders here in Calif. And that is my solo effort. Who knows what the others are doing to get those speeds as I never see guys going that fast. I know one guy who is superfast and he averages about 24. I'm guessing the other guys are in big packs, just my guess. For the 45, average can be from 17 to 19 MPH average speed. Good enough for me. So out of 26,000 riders, I guess around 2,000 ain't bad. I ain't fast but I ain't slow. :D I rarely see ebikes doing 45+ mile rides out here. Most I see are very short, 20 'ish that I notice but I could be wrong. So doing a decent 45 mile rides, why would I NEED an ebike? Last stretch of 7 miles on the 45. I am somewhere along the way cruising at 22. :thumb: https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...2ab0cd838c.jpg Yawn *EDIT: Seriously. Do better. |
Riding an E-bike is like getting a trophy for participation. Everyone gets a prize.
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Originally Posted by krakhaus
(Post 22051124)
Riding an E-bike is like getting a trophy for participation. Everyone gets a prize.
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