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Old 05-18-21, 08:00 PM
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My new bike Lemond Nevada City ! Need some help

Hi guys, I finally got the bike. lol. after asking you guys and doing some research I got lemond Nevada. I think it’s 2001, 53 cm.
I will post some pictures later.
two things. this seat killing my butt. I have pain after I ride. also my watched your tube videos to Measure my inseam. 31/5-32 inches. this bike is 53 cm
and a lot of people say lemond bikes run bigger .
is the size good for me? I m 5.9.
I adjusted seat post, also watching YouTube videos.
using lemond 0.883 formula.
but when I ride my kneen, my back, and seat is killing me
bike is stiff fast. nice frame !!!
I really wanna ride this bike. but what’s the problem? is it me or the bike or the size? what can I do ?
did I do something wrong ?

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Get a bike fit and have your sit bones measured so you have the right size seat.
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Is it the stock LeMond seat? I have a similar vintage Zurich and the stock seat, even though measuring fairly accurately was 100% a no go for me. Are you already in bibs? If not, check out the Charge seats. Available locally, I'm sure and while not a 'real' roadie seat, they're cheap enough to justify trying and just slightly cushioned enough to be forgiving.
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What kind of butt pain do you have? Is it your sit bones or your, ahem, soft part? If it's the latter the problem could be your saddle tilt or the saddle is too narrow. If the nose it tilted even a hair too high it can hurt.

If it's your sitbones and you're a new rider than that's normal. The skin covering them has to toughen up.
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Saddles are one of the hardest components to get right on a bike. The size, shape, the positioning, type of padding are all important factors. The shorts/pants are a big factor also. Almost certainly, a stock saddle is not going to be " the one". It takes time on the bike to get the body accustomed to being on the bike. There are some shops and saddle makers that offer a time period for usage and then return it if it is not working for you. It also takes some experimenting with the set up, using small incremental changes to get the positioning right.

As for size of the bike, I cannot say what is right for you. However, I can tell you that I am 5'8" , 155 lbs. with a 32" inseam and the Lemond 853, 53cm size fits me really well. You may have to play with the stem and handlebar set up also. Stick with it, gradually ride your way into riding shape and take notes on what is and what is not working for you.

A professional fitting is an option. I have never had one. It really helps a lot of riders, but also not a help to a lot of others. Everybody has physical/mental differences. I am of the belief that no one can get my bikes set up better for me than me. I have been riding a long time and still have to make some adjustment as I age. Many are going to disagree with my opinion, but that is what it is, an opinion.
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Congrats, happy you got a bike.
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Originally Posted by utku1985 View Post
Hi guys I finally got the bike lol after asking you guys and doing some research I got lemond Nevada I think itís 2001 53 cm
I will post some pictures later
two things this seat killing my butt I have pain after I ride also my watched your tube videos to Measure my inseam 31/5-32 inches this bike is 53 cm
and a lot of people say lemond bikes run bigger .
is the size good for me I m 5.9
I adjusted seat post also watching YouTube videos
using lemond 0.883 formula
but when I ride my keens my back and seat is killing me
bike is stiff fast nice frame !!!
I really wanna ride this bike but whatís the problem is it me or the bike or the size what can I do ?
did I do something wrong ?
Just give yourself a few miles to get use to it,you'll be fine, I've got a number of bikes and they are each a little different it just takes a couple rides for you to get use to it. Adjust your seat, maybe your stem to fit then ride. Anything you go out and buy you'll have to do the same thing give it a chance.
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Old 05-20-21, 08:54 AM
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If you just started riding or haven't ridden in a long time, then it might take a while for your butt to get used to it.

If what you are feeling seems like it's down in the bones, then just be patient for two to three weeks. Ride as much as you can stand.

If the person that owned the bike before you rode a lot and for long rides, it probably has a decent enough saddle. If they only rode short rides and infrequently, then it might be a terrible saddle.
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Is it the stock LeMond seat? I have a similar vintage Zurich and the stock seat, even though measuring fairly accurately was 100% a no go for me. Are you already in bibs? If not, check out the Charge seats. Available locally, I'm sure and while not a 'real' roadie seat, they're cheap enough to justify trying and just slightly cushioned enough to be forgiving.
yes it’s stock seat. what is charge seat ? Which one do you recommend ?

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Originally Posted by Lazyass View Post
What kind of butt pain do you have? Is it your sit bones or your, ahem, soft part? If it's the latter the problem could be your saddle tilt or the saddle is too narrow. If the nose it tilted even a hair too high it can hurt.

If it's your sitbones and you're a new rider than that's normal. The skin covering them has to toughen up.
I feel like sitbones and around that area. crazy uncomfortable. owner said it’s Italian leather original seat. so this is normal? wow .

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Old 05-20-21, 09:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Lazyass View Post
What kind of butt pain do you have? Is it your sit bones or your, ahem, soft part? If it's the latter the problem could be your saddle tilt or the saddle is too narrow. If the nose it tilted even a hair too high it can hurt.

If it's your sitbones and you're a new rider than that's normal. The skin covering them has to toughen up.
if I tilt seat little down is this helps? or it has to be Straight always?

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Old 05-20-21, 09:09 AM
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Congrats, happy you got a bike.
thank you 😊
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Old 05-20-21, 09:11 AM
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If you just started riding or haven't ridden in a long time, then it might take a while for your butt to get used to it.

If what you are feeling seems like it's down in the bones, then just be patient for two to three weeks. Ride as much as you can stand.

If the person that owned the bike before you rode a lot and for long rides, it probably has a decent enough saddle. If they only rode short rides and infrequently, then it might be a terrible saddle.
he said he was just going work and come back. not much info. but I don’t think bike was ridden a lot.

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he said he was just going work and come back not much info but I donít think bike was ridden a lot

Well what about you? Are you new to riding a bike or have not ridden in quite a while?
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As to size, it's likely that the 53cm Lemond will be the right size. Leg length or standover aren't the primary issue. Top tube length is.

As to the saddle position, you'll have to experiment with both the tilt, the fore-aft to correct for your foot position on the pedal, and of course the height. What kind of pain in your knees? Is it on the front of the knee, beneath the kneecap? Is it in the back of the knee, at the joint where it bends? Is it on the outside edge of the knee, and if so, does it get better when you stand up in the pedals? These three each have different causes related to the saddle.

Also, please tell us what cadence you're riding at most commonly. You MUST know what your cadence is when you ride for any period of time, so count. Also, riding in too difficult a gear when you are a beginner will place a strain on the knee and muscles surrounding it. Try using gears much easier than you think that you need, and spin your legs faster (70-90 rpm would be good). Go easy for the first month or so.
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When I first started riding again, I tried the Charge Spoon and the Spoon - comfort. Both are still on more casual bikes in the stable now. It's all about the tilt and your sit bones. The first time your bones are taking the weight and not any soft parts, you'll get what we're talking about. That being said. The Charge Spoon is highly regarded in casual and beginner circles for the cost/comfort/availability ratio. There are some good ways to measure your sit bones if you haven't googled that already. Congrats on the LeMond. I love mine.

Good luck and happy riding!
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Well what about you? Are you new to riding a bike or have not ridden in quite a while?
last time I rode when I was a kid. so yes, I m new to bike riding 🙂

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As to size, it's likely that the 53cm Lemond will be the right size. Leg length or standover aren't the primary issue. Top tube length is.

As to the saddle position, you'll have to experiment with both the tilt, the fore-aft to correct for your foot position on the pedal, and of course the height. What kind of pain in your knees? Is it on the front of the knee, beneath the kneecap? Is it in the back of the knee, at the joint where it bends? Is it on the outside edge of the knee, and if so, does it get better when you stand up in the pedals? These three each have different causes related to the saddle.

Also, please tell us what cadence you're riding at most commonly. You MUST know what your cadence is when you ride for any period of time, so count. Also, riding in too difficult a gear when you are a beginner will place a strain on the knee and muscles surrounding it. Try using gears much easier than you think that you need, and spin your legs faster (70-90 rpm would be good). Go easy for the first month or so.
I m new to riding so I donít know much about cadence
and itís front of the knees and around the knee like itís burning but when I stand up on the bike no pain
also saddle is really discomforable at the moment like I have pain where my seat bones and around that area still When I pedal I m going to use tip of my shoes or the normal middle part ? Yes I was using big gears Looks like , but when I lower it bike feels like I m not even able to pedal itís so loose maybe I m going too fast ? I will try lower gears and pedal fast . I have regular original pedals and using regular snakears more like causal rider is that okay ?

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When I first started riding again, I tried the Charge Spoon and the Spoon - comfort. Both are still on more casual bikes in the stable now. It's all about the tilt and your sit bones. The first time your bones are taking the weight and not any soft parts, you'll get what we're talking about. That being said. The Charge Spoon is highly regarded in casual and beginner circles for the cost/comfort/availability ratio. There are some good ways to measure your sit bones if you haven't googled that already. Congrats on the LeMond. I love mine.

Good luck and happy riding!
thank you 😊
I havenít googled sitbone measurement but I will look up thank you
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Are you riding with padded bike shorts? On my road bike, I have a saddle I liked, which was fine for a while, then wasn't! Something must have changed with me, as after I adjusted tilt and fore/aft positioning, it felt good again. Then I read a post with a recommendation for padded bike shorts and decided to try them based of a poster's experience. Helped a LOT--in case you are wondering, it was these: Amazon.com: Przewalski Mens Cycling Underwear Shorts 3D Padded Bike Undershorts Bicycle MTB Liner Shorts with Non-Slip Leg Grip Green: Clothing
BTW--I'm roughly the same size as you and when I bought my LeMond (new), I had the stem switched to a shorter one, and it's still on there. And whatever pedals work for you are fine--I ride with flat pedals with traction pins (sometimes referred to as BMX or Mtn.Bike pedals), just never got comfortable with "clipless". As for saddle--as you probably have heard, so many diff.butts and so many diff. saddles, hard to say what will work for you.
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Are you riding with padded bike shorts? On my road bike, I have a saddle I liked, which was fine for a while, then wasn't! Something must have changed with me, as after I adjusted tilt and fore/aft positioning, it felt good again. Then I read a post with a recommendation for padded bike shorts and decided to try them based of a poster's experience. Helped a LOT--in case you are wondering, it was these: Amazon.com: Przewalski Mens Cycling Underwear Shorts 3D Padded Bike Undershorts Bicycle MTB Liner Shorts with Non-Slip Leg Grip Green: Clothing
BTW--I'm roughly the same size as you and when I bought my LeMond (new), I had the stem switched to a shorter one, and it's still on there. And whatever pedals work for you are fine--I ride with flat pedals with traction pins (sometimes referred to as BMX or Mtn.Bike pedals), just never got comfortable with "clipless". As for saddle--as you probably have heard, so many diff.butts and so many diff. saddles, hard to say what will work for you.
thank you for great info I will look into those shorts and get one as far as saddle no idea will look into it
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We should not be giving any help until we get pictures of the bike!

J/K....enjoy it
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last time I rode when I was a kid. so yes, I m new to bike riding 🙂
So there is a good chance you are going to have some pain till your bones get used to it. If you are a teen or in your twenties, maybe not. But the older you get the more this is likely true.

You can change out your saddle, but you might find that very temporary relief until you got 2, 3 or 4 weeks of riding behind you.

If this is skin irritation or muscle pain, then that's another story.
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We should not be giving any help until we get pictures of the bike!

J/K....enjoy it
I will try to take some today )
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Originally Posted by utku1985 View Post
... itís front of the knees and around the knee like itís burning but when I stand up on the bike no pain...
^key point in bold...

This points to pressure from the saddle that impinges on the nerves that pass through the pelvis and into the upper leg. See the yellow portion of the diagram. The pressure stems from improper saddle shape coupled to too little pelvic area flexibility. Learning to roll your pelvis forward, in part with stretching of your hamstrings and adductor muscles, will alleviate a portion of this. The rest will be mediated by choice of the basic shape and tilt of the saddle itself.

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