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Old 05-27-21, 06:39 PM
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Brand New bike crashed

I bought a Giant Revolt Advanced 2 yesterday, On my first ride today A motorcycle turned left in front of me, We collided is it wrong of me to want a new bike? I cannot see any damage to the frame except a few scuff marks on the brakes. I was doing about 17MPH when we collided. With the carbon frame & forks, how would I tell if theirs damage? I have a few bruises & scrapes on my legs.

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Old 05-27-21, 06:45 PM
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Get an attorney
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Old 05-27-21, 06:53 PM
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Depends.
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Originally Posted by mwatt65 View Post
On my first ride today a motorcycle turned left in front of me. We collided...
Isnít it ironic?
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Take the bike back to where you bought it to get the bike inspected. Go from there.
I assume you have the driver's insurance info?
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Two part perfect cacophony I'd say.
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Isnít it ironic?
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Old 05-27-21, 07:12 PM
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I'm not a lawyer but I watch Perry Mason on MeTV quite often. As suggested above, I would have the shop look it over and assess the damage. I'm not seeing a scenario where the insurance company will give you a new bike just because it is a couple of days old. They will require proof of damages.
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Originally Posted by Chuck M View Post
I'm not a lawyer but I watch Perry Mason on MeTV quite often. As suggested above, I would have the shop look it over and assess the damage. I'm not seeing a scenario where the insurance company will give you a new bike just because it is a couple of days old. They will require proof of damages.

I understand what you're saying about the insurance company not wanting to replace a new bike, but if the frame or the forks are compromised, how would I tell? plus if anything happens in the future to it the manufacture will blame the crash. It's their clients fault this happen.
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Old 05-27-21, 07:19 PM
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the amount of money is nothing to an insurance company.
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1st ride wreck !!! ... it's a Jonah bike ... replace it or live with its ill luck
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Originally Posted by mwatt65 View Post
if the frame or the forks are compromised, how would I tell?
That is why you want the shop you bought it from to look it over. If there is damage they find from the crash, there is your documentation for the insurance claim. If they say there is no damage, there is your documentation for the warranty.
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Originally Posted by Chuck M View Post
That is why you want the shop you bought it from to look it over. If there is damage they find from the crash, there is your documentation for the insurance claim. If they say there is no damage, there is your documentation for the warranty.

Thank you for a great explanation. makes sense.
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Originally Posted by mwatt65 View Post
I bought a Giant Revolt Advanced 2 yesterday, On my first ride today A motorcycle turned left in front of me, We collided is it wrong of me to want a new bike? I cannot see any damage to the frame except a few scuff marks on the brakes. I was doing about 17MPH when we collided. With the carbon frame & forks, how would I tell if theirs damage? I have a few bruises & scrapes on my legs.

Thank you.
Was the motorcyclist given a citation?
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Old 05-27-21, 08:30 PM
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Sorry for the Crash.
Best to ride with a Bright Strobe light for Day Safety.
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Old 05-27-21, 09:08 PM
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sure there is a chance that there is hidden damage that dont show up until months or years down the line. by than, you wont be able to get compensation. thats life. sometimes unfortunate things happen to good people.
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Old 05-27-21, 09:16 PM
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Please, let's not talk about any details of the accident.

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As others have said take it back to the shop you purchased it from and have them inspect it or send it to someone like Calfee or Ruckus Composites and have them look at it. Beyond that talk with your attorney at law and insurance company. Beyond that keep it pretty quiet here until everything is settled.


Not good to ride with a strobe light, we are bike riders not a mobile discotheque it can be more a distraction and make it harder to see. Riding with a light during the day is fine but flashing and strobing is always best left on the dance floor or a haunted house or probably some CIA extrajudicial torture methods.
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Old 05-27-21, 09:55 PM
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Excellent advice.
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Not good to ride with a strobe light, we are bike riders not a mobile discotheque it can be more a distraction and make it harder to see. Riding with a light during the day is fine but flashing and strobing is always best left on the dance floor or a haunted house or probably some CIA extrajudicial torture methods.
Very good to ride with a strobe light. You can't be serious advising otherwise. Billions have been spent R&D'ing bicycle stobes and they have persisted in the marketplace for decades. Bad? Define bad in that context.
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Old 05-27-21, 10:23 PM
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Very good to ride with a strobe light. You can't be serious advising otherwise. Billions have been spent R&D'ing bicycle stobes and they have persisted in the marketplace for decades. Bad? Define bad in that context.
I am serious and don't call me surely. I am sure plenty of money has been spent putting strobes on bicycle lights and yes something has remained on the market for a long time. That doesn't make it a good thing it just means it has stayed around or they know they can market it at people and those people will want to use it because they don't have to be on the receiving end of it. When ever I am confronted by a flashing or strobing light I have to close my eyes and look away which could lead to a crash on my end because I can't see. Thankfully I haven't ever had a seizure but know people who do.

I get it we like to think they work better because they are flashing and flashing things can grab attention. Some guy walking down the street with a closed trench coat doesn't really make you look twice but when his ding-a-ling is hanging out you notice. But unlike with the genitals which won't cause much harm if you look at them, a flashing light in your eyes can, especially white light (and non-warm light) which is more damaging to eyes.

Keep in mind we used DDT for around 30 years, Cocaine started life out as legal and sold in lots of places for health purposes, Informer by Snow spent 7 weeks at number 1 on the Billboard music charts. The point is we sometimes do things for long periods of time that may not always be right or good but if you market it correctly people will go for it.
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I am serious and don't call me surely. I am sure plenty of money has been spent putting strobes on bicycle lights and yes something has remained on the market for a long time. That doesn't make it a good thing it just means it has stayed around or they know they can market it at people and those people will want to use it because they don't have to be on the receiving end of it. When ever I am confronted by a flashing or strobing light I have to close my eyes and look away which could lead to a crash on my end because I can't see. Thankfully I haven't ever had a seizure but know people who do.

I get it we like to think they work better because they are flashing and flashing things can grab attention. Some guy walking down the street with a closed trench coat doesn't really make you look twice but when his ding-a-ling is hanging out you notice. But unlike with the genitals which won't cause much harm if you look at them, a flashing light in your eyes can, especially white light (and non-warm light) which is more damaging to eyes.

Keep in mind we used DDT for around 30 years, Cocaine started life out as legal and sold in lots of places for health purposes, Informer by Snow spent 7 weeks at number 1 on the Billboard music charts. The point is we sometimes do things for long periods of time that may not always be right or good but if you market it correctly people will go for it.
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People who have seizures aren't allowed to drive. When you are riding west in the late afternoon do you keep your eyes closed because of the sun?
Oops rule number 2.
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Originally Posted by mwatt65 View Post
I bought a Giant Revolt Advanced 2 yesterday, On my first ride today A motorcycle turned left in front of me, We collided is it wrong of me to want a new bike? I cannot see any damage to the frame except a few scuff marks on the brakes. I was doing about 17MPH when we collided. With the carbon frame & forks, how would I tell if theirs damage? I have a few bruises & scrapes on my legs.

Thank you.
If the accident was reported and a report filed, you can get compensation from the moto rider if he was at fault.
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If the accident was reported and a report filed, you can get compensation from the moto rider if he was at fault.
The bolded. Cyclists never want to admit that sometimes an accident isn't entirely the motorists fault. In my state they would be sharing the blame 50/50. Zero sum.
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This is what I have learned about carbon frames over the years doing service work in a shop. If there was an impact, the sort where you and the bike are stopped upon impact and you were thrown off the bike, chances are there will be damage undetectable to the naked eye. In my shop we will not "safety inspect" carbon because we do not have the equipment to do the job properly.
We do offer opinions along with disclaimers. A proper inspection that will guarantee your safety will require equipment that can "see" the fibers of the material in the frame and detect faults in the structure.
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