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Old 06-01-21, 11:20 PM
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Originally Posted by DMC707 View Post
Do Hoopties ride on air shocks with 24" wheels and paint schemes that feature either Mountain Dew and Skittles logos, or metalflake so heavy it could cut your hand?
A Hooptie is just the urban equivalent for 'beater' although the classic definition is a 'B'-body GM, like a Buick or Olds, something that would have been a 'nice' car, once.

What you're describing is a Donk, with the giant wheels and look-at-me paint and graphics. Ironically, the same 70s-80s Detroit land yachts are sought after as the base material. Properly done, they're full-on show cars; but if you have to ask why, you probably wouldn't get it.

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Originally Posted by DMC707 View Post
Do Hoopties ride on air shocks with 24" wheels and paint schemes that feature either Mountain Dew and Skittles logos, or metalflake so heavy it could cut your hand?
See above for correct definition of hooptie. I used to have one. Side view mirror held on with duct tape, no hubcaps, dents and faded paint. 18 years old but still got me where I needed to go until some idiot kid totaled it while it was parked outside the GF’s house in Jersey.
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Originally Posted by indyfabz View Post
See above for correct definition of hooptie. I used to have one. Side view mirror held on with duct tape, no hubcaps, dents and faded paint. 18 years old but still got me where I needed to go until some idiot kid totaled it while it was parked outside the GF’s house in Jersey.
We had one of those. Driver's side mirror had been knocked off, but still dangling by the wires. It would stop bouncing against the door once up-to-speed. I always planned to repair it, but never did. Lots of hail damage -- looked like an angry teen had gone at it with a ball peen hammer. Various other problems. Once, I stopped at a highway rest stop, and noticed another motorist looking closely at my car. When he got closer, he gestured at it, and said to me, "What are you gonna do about that?"

My response: "Do about it? It got me here, didn't it?"
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Originally Posted by Ironfish653 View Post
A Hooptie is just the urban equivalent for 'beater' although the classic definition is a 'B'-body GM, like a Buick or Olds, something that would have been a 'nice' car, once.

What you're describing is a Donk, with the giant wheels and look-at-me paint and graphics. Ironically, the same 70s-80s Detroit land yachts are sought after as the base material. Properly done, they're full-on show cars; but if you have to ask why, you probably wouldn't get it.

Hooptie


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The discarded water bottle , what looks like cigarette butts, plus the chainlink fence with razor wire on top in the background , and then theres the graffiti --- , add the right ambiance to this photo of some vintage Detroit steel
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Originally Posted by LesterOfPuppets View Post
I'd assume the fork was designed for 590 wheels.

PRODUCT MANAGER: OK, how about forks, for 559 wheels with cantilever brake bosses?
CHINESE MANUFACTURER: $1.80 apiece if you order 200000 of them.
PM: Too much. What else you got?
​CM: We have forks we put on 3-speed townie bikes, but no cantilever bosses for $1.10 apiece.
PM: Will they clear a 2" tire?
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Only the fanciest of BSOs got cantis. lol
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Originally Posted by Ironfish653 View Post
A Hooptie is just the urban equivalent for 'beater' although the classic definition is a 'B'-body GM, like a Buick or Olds, something that would have been a 'nice' car, once.

What you're describing is a Donk, with the giant wheels and look-at-me paint and graphics. Ironically, the same 70s-80s Detroit land yachts are sought after as the base material. Properly done, they're full-on show cars; but if you have to ask why, you probably wouldn't get it.

Hooptie


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I'm black, and I don't get donks. I say make it 4wd and put some 38 swampers on it, and do it right.
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Old 06-04-21, 07:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Jax Rhapsody View Post
I'm black, and I don't get donks. I say make it 4wd and put some 38 swampers on it, and do it right.
You have to be in Northern California to get donks . I don't know if people still drive them there, been a while since I've been in the Bay Area.
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Well for $1 you can't go wrong...
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I just find it ironic how people on a bike site will claim a bike isn't interesting but will talk on and on some old cars nobody owns.
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Originally Posted by Happy Feet View Post
I just find it ironic how people on a bike site will claim a bike isn't interesting but will talk on and on some old cars nobody owns.
We could bring it back to bikes if you like.
Donks started out in NorCal where they called them scrapers , because the tires always scraped on the wheelwells.
Scraper bikes were also done up.
This one's pretty sweet:



​​​​​​Now take that bone stock late 80s early 90s WalMart mountainbike and put some 32" wheels in there and make em look like candy wrappers, then we got an interesting bike
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Old 06-04-21, 03:12 PM
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Originally Posted by indyfabz View Post
See above for correct definition of hooptie. I used to have one. Side view mirror held on with duct tape, no hubcaps, dents and faded paint. 18 years old but still got me where I needed to go until some idiot kid totaled it while it was parked outside the GF’s house in Jersey.
Just have to say that a “hoop tie” had okay bones and might be turned into something better. This bike is the equivalent of a Yugo. Worth “restoring” to be ironic but, honestly, the old saw still applies:

Customer: “I need a gas cap for a Yugo”

Clerk: “Seems like a fair trade.”
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Originally Posted by LesterOfPuppets View Post
We could bring it back to bikes if you like.
Donks started out in NorCal where they called me scrapers , because the tires always scraped on the wheelwells.
Scraper bikes were also done up.
This one's pretty sweet:

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Love the backwards fork.
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Originally Posted by cyccommute View Post
Love the backwards fork.
Looks like he didn't bother cutting the steerer tube to fit that frame either.

I think the backwards fork gives it a donkier look
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Originally Posted by LesterOfPuppets View Post
We could bring it back to bikes if you like.
Donks started out in NorCal where they called them scrapers , because the tires always scraped on the wheelwells.
Scraper bikes were also done up.
This one's pretty sweet:



​​​​​​Now take that bone stock late 80s early 90s WalMart mountainbike and put some 32" wheels in there and make em look like candy wrappers, then we got an interesting bike
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Y'all are missing the coffee theme. Starbucks colors and trademarks on the wheels. Check out the cup on the seat post.
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Originally Posted by livedarklions View Post
Y'all are missing the coffee theme. Starbucks colors and trademarks on the wheels. Check out the cup on the seat post.
I didn't miss that. Brands are kinda big in the scraper/donk car scene too.

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Originally Posted by LesterOfPuppets View Post
I didn't miss that. Brands are kinda big in the scraper/donk car scene too.

Needs to drive through a wall:

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Originally Posted by cyccommute View Post
Can I find exact examples? No. But there are plenty similar examples that show the same elements. For example, this Huffy Scout looks exactly with the same brakes. Conversion from a road bike? Probably not.



Huffy Cherokee. Probably mid80s given the bull moose bars. Again, similar brakes, crank, and drivetrain.



Newer version of the Cherokee. How do I know? The flat bars and stem very similar to the one in your pictures. Bull Moose bars fell out of favor by the mid80s and were mostly gone by the 90s.



And here are two Huffys from a 1990 J.C. Penney catalog. Notice the same elements like Aushtabula crank, long reach stamped brakes, plastic clips for the cabling, and cheap stamped steel stem.



And here’s Huffy’s hybrid version. They have 26” wheels and the same long reach side pull. Note the distance between the fork and the tire, then compare it your picture. It’s easy to see the similarities and to note that they aren’t due to a wheel change.



Although I hate to admit it, I’ve seen and actually worked on enough of them that I’ve become something of an expert on them.
Well there I go. This is much less interesting than I thought.

Well done, I concede the point.
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Originally Posted by indyfabz View Post
Also known as getting owned.
Nope. I said I would concede the point when it was proven. It was proven and I concede the point.

So its worse than that: I'm being adult.
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Well there I go. This is much less interesting than I thought.

Well done, I concede the point.
Good on you, mate! If we never make mistakes, we never learn anything.
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Originally Posted by LesterOfPuppets View Post
You have to be in Northern California to get donks . I don't know if people still drive them there, been a while since I've been in the Bay Area.
Bruh... those stupid cars are everywhere, especially here in the south. One around here was made from an 80's LeSabre hearse.
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Originally Posted by Jax Rhapsody View Post
Bruh... those stupid cars are everywhere, especially here in the south. One around here was made from an 80's LeSabre hearse.
Yep, it went nationwide.

The craze is dead already in PHX. Hardly ever see them anymore, nothing like it was 10 years ago.
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