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Fork upgrade
I just updated the fork on my "Basecamp," "mountain bike." Swapped out the old Suntour fork for an inexpensive "carbon," fork. Weighs a lot lighter than the suspension fork. I went this, because I highly doubt that I'll ever shred on mountain bike trails. Went pretty smooth, though I managed to snap one star nut, and had to fish it out of the fork. Dorked up and rounded out a bolt in the brake lever. Fortunately for me I had a spare one. The front wheel needs truing, and I have ordered a truing stand. (Apologies if I posted in the right forum for this, feel free to move it.)
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I personally can't consider a carbon fork an upgrade. I won't use carbon fiber for the same reason I wont use aluminum. They can fail without obvious signs of damage or fatigue.
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Originally Posted by Rick
(Post 22082534)
I won't use carbon fiber for the same reason I wont use aluminum. They can fail without obvious signs of damage or fatigue.
That eliminates all air travel, then. |
Originally Posted by terrymorse
(Post 22082791)
No carbon fiber or aluminum?
That eliminates all air travel, then. |
Keep in mind your bike is NOT designed to be clamped by the tubes. In fact zero bikes should be clamped by the tubes. The seatpost is designed to be clamped and is currently clamped right now.
In terms of the fork I wouldn't trust no-name cheap carbon with no support behind it. But hey it ain't my life. The SR fork was probably a heavy lug but the bike is not a high end bike so tis to be expected. If you aren't mountain biking, I generally recommend not buying a bike for that purpose or at least bikes designed to look like mountain bikes. If I want a carbon fork I would get a hybrid or road bike with a carbon fork and potentially get a higher quality bike in the process with less weight. I would also look at a frame that fits. Slammed seats are a good sign of an ill fitting bike. |
Originally Posted by Rick
(Post 22082534)
I personally can't consider a carbon fork an upgrade. I won't use carbon fiber for the same reason I wont use aluminum. They can fail without obvious signs of damage or fatigue.
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Originally Posted by Rick
(Post 22082534)
I personally can't consider a carbon fork an upgrade. I won't use carbon fiber for the same reason I wont use aluminum. They can fail without obvious signs of damage or fatigue.
Originally Posted by Jax Rhapsody
(Post 22084215)
I've had a number of aluminum bikes, only one wasn't old when I got it, only one had a break. I have broken two steel frames. You're just paranoid.
I'm too heavy to rock the Spinergy Rev-Xes any more, but my 25-year-old SoftRide is still going strong, and I certainly don't pull any punches on my '97 Cannondale, and I've ridden two Headshoks out from under that one. |
Originally Posted by Rick
(Post 22082534)
I personally can't consider a carbon fork an upgrade. I won't use carbon fiber for the same reason I wont use aluminum. They can fail without obvious signs of damage or fatigue.
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Originally Posted by veganbikes
(Post 22083098)
Keep in mind your bike is NOT designed to be clamped by the tubes. In fact zero bikes should be clamped by the tubes. The seatpost is designed to be clamped and is currently clamped right now.
In terms of the fork I wouldn't trust no-name cheap carbon with no support behind it. But hey it ain't my life. The SR fork was probably a heavy lug but the bike is not a high end bike so tis to be expected. If you aren't mountain biking, I generally recommend not buying a bike for that purpose or at least bikes designed to look like mountain bikes. If I want a carbon fork I would get a hybrid or road bike with a carbon fork and potentially get a higher quality bike in the process with less weight. I would also look at a frame that fits. Slammed seats are a good sign of an ill fitting bike. |
Originally Posted by grizzly907la
(Post 22085531)
I don't mountain bike, because I am too old for that. I would just lay on the ground and wince in pain if I took a spill if I mountain biked. I'm using it to ride on the street and maybe some gravel roads. If I ever get the money to afford a high end bike, I'd want to build it myself. The Basecamp is entry level for sure. I know that many manufacturers slap "mountain bike," on a bike that can't handle hard core mountain biking. I'm on a limited budget, so I get what I can afford.
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Originally Posted by Jax Rhapsody
(Post 22084215)
I've had a number of aluminum bikes, only one wasn't old when I got it, only one had a break. I have broken two steel frames. You're just paranoid.
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Originally Posted by grizzly907la
(Post 22086338)
I've had one Aluminum frame bike break on me...it was a Huffy...just say no to Huffy!
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That's not an upgrade, that's a downgrade and a step backwards... You should of upgraded with a steel fork.
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Originally Posted by wolfchild
(Post 22087531)
That's not an upgrade, that's a downgrade and a step backwards... You should of upgraded with a steel fork.
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Originally Posted by grizzly907la
(Post 22087711)
Just curious. Why do you hate carbon? Thanks!
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Originally Posted by wolfchild
(Post 22087882)
I don't hate it, I just don't trust carbon forks or any other carbon components. Carbon can't stand up to the same abuse as steel.
With regard to cycling, carbon fiber can absolutely stand up to the same abuse overall. I dont consider normal use to be 'abuse' though since, you know, that means something different. A simple solution is to not abuse a bike's frame. Crazy idea, I know. |
How does someone abuse a bike fork, exactly?
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Looks like an upgrade to me. All materials can fail; I've seen chromo forks fail, too, without warning. I replaced an aluminum fork with a carbon one 5 years ago and it's been a great choice. I agree that the slammed seat probably means the frame is too big for OP and thus he's pouring money into a poorly-fitting bike.
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Originally Posted by JohnDThompson
(Post 22082889)
While I agree the risk of catastrophic failure is low, unlike bicycles, aircraft have mandatory scheduled airframe inspections to catch failing parts before they totally fail.
https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...2d35f895ff.png Unpressurized aircraft generally have component lifetimes measured in flight hours, if they have such a limit at all. That's why we still have DC-3/C-47s flying commercial operations around the globe at 80+ years old! . |
Originally Posted by Jax Rhapsody
(Post 22084215)
I've had a number of aluminum bikes, only one wasn't old when I got it, only one had a break. I have broken two steel frames. You're just paranoid.
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Originally Posted by msu2001la
(Post 22087910)
How does someone abuse a bike fork, exactly?
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Originally Posted by wolfchild
(Post 22089058)
Mountain biking through rock gardens, over tree roots, commuting on rough streets with pot holes, jumping curbs etc... Maybe not abuse but definitely heavy duty use. That's why I use heavy duty chromoly steel forks. I wouldn't use a carbon fork for my style of riding.
I've never quite figured out why everyone on BikeForums feels like they have to ride through every pothole instead of going around; is there some Rule about deviating from 'The Line' that I'm unaware of? Or why obstacles like that are such a big deal in the first place? Get your butt off the saddle, bend your knees, and shift your weight off the front wheel. Is Riding Light considered a dark art around here? |
Originally Posted by Cougrrcj
(Post 22088990)
AND pressurized aircraft like airliners have a limited lifetime measured in pressurization cycles, not flight hours or any such calendar time.
There is no such limitation for carbon fiber. |
Originally Posted by wolfchild
(Post 22087882)
I don't hate it, I just don't trust carbon forks or any other carbon components. Carbon can't stand up to the same abuse as steel.
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Originally Posted by BlazingPedals
(Post 22088198)
Looks like an upgrade to me. All materials can fail; I've seen chromo forks fail, too, without warning. I replaced an aluminum fork with a carbon one 5 years ago and it's been a great choice. I agree that the slammed seat probably means the frame is too big for OP and thus he's pouring money into a poorly-fitting bike.
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