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Old 06-03-21, 09:50 AM
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GPS files For Route TransAm

Iím currently making my route for the TransAm . Does anyone have available gps files they can send me that I can transfer to my garmin ?
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Iím currently making my route for the TransAm . Does anyone have available gps files they can send me that I can transfer to my garmin ?
not sure where TransAm is but check out https://www.bikemap.net

free to join and i have downloaded some routes to run on my trainer. maybe what you are looking for is there.
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This link should help: https://www.adventurecycling.org/rou...america-trail/
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That's the route which runs about 7 miles from my house.
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Old 06-03-21, 10:49 AM
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Thanks ! I’m not sure On pinpointing exactly where the trail lies and I don’t want to be riding off the trail . If anyone has bought the files from the TransAm route website That they can send let me know .
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I got the impression heís looking for free files from someone who has purchased them, but I could be wrong.
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Just go to RideWithGPS, Strava, MapMyRide or where ever you care to and put TransAmericaTrail in the search box.
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Originally Posted by spelger View Post
not sure where TransAm is but check out https://www.bikemap.net

free to join and i have downloaded some routes to run on my trainer. maybe what you are looking for is there.
thankyou! This is super helpful
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Old 06-03-21, 12:44 PM
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Considering that the Adventure Cycling Association has compiled these routes and spent money and time to do this. Why not support the organization become a member and purchase the routes legally. How is it morally ethical to defraud them the money they are owed?
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I’m actually a paying member of ACA . I don’t think it’s defrauding to ask for help on a route I’m new to or I’m trying to plan now is it ?? I don’t have money to purchase map by map right now and rather ask for help from Locals who have done this before or have an accurate route. Thanks for the input .
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Unless the purchase contract explicitly spells out file transfers to another party are not permitted, the files belong to the purchaser and they are free to do what they want with them. I went through something similar to this many years ago with some e-files and was surprised to learn this.
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Old 06-03-21, 01:46 PM
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There are probably a thousand copies of that file on ridewithgps.
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Originally Posted by TiHabanero View Post
Unless the purchase contract explicitly spells out file transfers to another party are not permitted, the files belong to the purchaser and they are free to do what they want with them. I went through something similar to this many years ago with some e-files and was surprised to learn this.
Not if one purchased a file and itís subject to copyright protection. In that case, you can transfer your personal copy, but you cannot make copies and share them. Just like a book or CD.

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Originally Posted by Tee tee View Post
Iím actually a paying member of ACA . I donít think itís defrauding to ask for help on a route Iím new to or Iím trying to plan now is it ?? I donít have money to purchase map by map right now and rather ask for help from Locals who have done this before or have an accurate route. Thanks for the input .
Depends. Iíve been a member since Ď98 and have many of their maps, which are copyrighted. I am most certainly not permitted to make copies and hand them out to whoever, regardless of their financial situation. Same is true for someone who has obtained a copyrighted file. Itís not the information that is protected but rather the expression/presentation of the information. I canít say whether those types of files are given copyright protection, but if they are they cannot simply be copied and shared.

Different result if someone were to, say, map the route on RWGPS because the information itself (the actual route) is not protected. Thatís why Michelin and Rand-McNally can produce road maps of the same area.

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Old 06-03-21, 03:13 PM
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Originally Posted by TiHabanero View Post
Unless the purchase contract explicitly spells out file transfers to another party are not permitted, the files belong to the purchaser and they are free to do what they want with them. I went through something similar to this many years ago with some e-files and was surprised to learn this.
Not really the point. To me it is a morality issue, why not pay for what is the result of some else's hard work. Besides that basic point, the ACA is a non-profit which is making cycling infrastructure and access better for us bicyclists. If the OP can't afford the maps how can they be planning on a multi-month bike tour?

Lastly, the availability of copies of the route is all over the route building sites and would take virtually no effort to obtain, why solicit for someone to send direct copies of the original?
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I wonder how anyone thinks ACA does any route improvement on the TransAM

A lot of it is very high speed single lane with no shoulder.
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Originally Posted by GhostRider62 View Post
I wonder how anyone thinks ACA does any route improvement on the TransAM

A lot of it is very high speed single lane with no shoulder.
By lobbying and advocating for improvements and taking cyclist needs into account on road design and upgrades, they may not be funding the work themselves but rather working with the funding authorities. I like to know how you define "a lot" however they provide the best roads available taking a cyclist's needs into account. Regular updates are provided when roads change or alternatives are found.
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By lobbying and advocating for improvements and taking cyclist needs into account on road design and upgrades, they may not be funding the work themselves but rather working with the funding authorities. I like to know how you define "a lot" however they provide the best roads available taking a cyclist's needs into account. Regular updates are provided when roads change or alternatives are found.
A lot = majority of the miles.
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A lot of it is very high speed single lane with no shoulder.
Reading this I wonder, have you ridden the same route I did?
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Originally Posted by pdlamb View Post
Reading this I wonder, have you ridden the same route I did?
How much of the route from Astoria to the Mississippi isn't on high speed roads? Much less than half. When did you ride it? A 3 foot shoulder with a 30 inch rumple strip doesn't qualify as a shoulder in my book. I don't know what route you took or when, I rode the TransAm in 2016 West to East starting in Astoria. It is better than the Southern route.

This is right off their website. Pretty no doubt, but I assure you that is a 70 mph road.


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How much of the route from Astoria to the Mississippi isn't on high speed roads? Much less than half. When did you ride it? A 3 foot shoulder with a 30 inch rumple strip doesn't qualify as a shoulder in my book. I don't know what route you took or when, I rode the TransAm in 2016 West to East starting in Astoria. It is better than the Southern route.

This is right off their website. Pretty no doubt, but I assure you that is a 70 mph road.

So you suport copyright theft and marginalize an organization because the USA does not have a road network with extensive quiet secondary roads. This is an ethical issue, if you choose to or support copying someone elses work thats on you.
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Not specifically the question asked, but I had good luck recently using a Strava heat map and RideWithGPS to find and then build a route for a vacation I'm taking in a few weeks. Specifically, we'll be stopping in Sioux Falls, SD and Billings, MT (among other places) and Strava showed the dedicated cycling path along the Big Sioux River plain as day. It was white-hot on the map and easily the most used route in the city.

For Billings I was able to string some dedicated bike paths and some other roads together in a 100k loop around the city. I grew up there but a lot has changed. The heat map showed some heavily used roads and the satellite map showed why when zoomed in - dedicated bike lanes.

If you know one part of the Trail then the Strava heat map should show you any possible routes from it fairly easily.
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So you suport copyright theft and marginalize an organization because the USA does not have a road network with extensive quiet secondary roads. This is an ethical issue, if you choose to or support copying someone elses work thats on you.
They do not own the roads and I am doubtful they do much to improve the route. Many people have mapped it out. Sharing that map is not theft. The valuable information on the paper maps is location of services and no, I do not support theft. How did you gather that from my comment? ACA has been trying to remove 3 foot wide rumble strips in Kansas and other states since before 2000 with no results. Riders should be aware that they will be forced into the lane in many areas because the small shoulder has been deeply scared with rumple strips. There are alternative routes in Kanas, why haven't they changed the route?
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A lot of it is very high speed single lane with no shoulder.
Virtually none of the TransAm route I did in 2009 was on a single lane road. It was almost all two lane roads, although there were perhaps 5 miles west of Hindman, KY that was about a lane and a half. FWIW, that emptied out onto a four lane road, IIRC, with nice (though littered) shoulders. Add a few more roads in southwest Virginia and eastern Kentucky were less than two "standard in 2021" lanes. West of the Mississippi, I don't remember any; so if there were a few miles like that, they didn't stick in my memory.

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How much of the route from Astoria to the Mississippi isn't on high speed roads? Much less than half. When did you ride it? A 3 foot shoulder with a 30 inch rumple strip doesn't qualify as a shoulder in my book. I don't know what route you took or when, I rode the TransAm in 2016 West to East starting in Astoria. It is better than the Southern route.
It's possible the picture you lifted from the ACA site was posted at 70 mph, but most of what I remember was lower. Maybe we're not talking about just the speed limit, though? When I think of a long drive, greater than four hours or so, I'm thinking about high speed limits, limited access, no stop signs or traffic lights, and very large radius turns. I only remember the 10 miles of I-80 west of Rawlins, WY that fits that description, but that stretch had hu-u-uge shoulders!

I'll agree with you on few shoulders. However, you seem to imply shoulders are necessary for safe bicycling. That's not my experience. Much more important than the presence or absence of shoulders are traffic volumes and sight lines. The ACA routes I've ridden do well by those metrics.

Reading your posts remind me of a supported tour I rode; despite written descriptions on the web site, in the tour booklet, and in the pre-ride brief to the effect of "You will be riding public roads with other traffic," there were more than a few people shocked -- shocked! I say -- to find out we were riding on paved public roads, and that the roads hadn't been closed for the day for a bike ride.

Perhaps you can explain what you want in a touring route? Are you expecting to find an off-road route without any motorized traffic? I understand you can put together a few week long rides like that, but not across the U.S.A. Are you willing to ride 4,000 miles on dirt roads to do it (not that I'm aware of any such routes in existence)? Do you want to ride only roads with 30 mph speed limits? Heck, even the dirt back roads of Kansas have trucks pushing 55.

I'll usually let posts like yours slide without responding to them. But I'm saddened by the effort some people seem to be making to dismantle the few existing east-west routes across the U.S. because they don't fit some arbitrary definition of ideal. Yes, I say dismantle, like the push to "replace" the Affordable Care Act by repealing it without a replacement in place. There are no complete off-road routes across the country. Even the north-south Continental Divide Route spends some miles on paved public roads. I'm not thrilled with the focus Adventure Cycling has put into re-routing in response to whiners, I disagree with some of their short-sighted political stands, and I sometimes think they could do better routing. But their routes deserve better than your disapprobation.
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To be clear, you started by posting:



Virtually none of the TransAm route I did in 2009 was on a single lane road. It was almost all two lane roads, although there were perhaps 5 miles west of Hindman, KY that was about a lane and a half. FWIW, that emptied out onto a four lane road, IIRC, with nice (though littered) shoulders. Add a few more roads in southwest Virginia and eastern Kentucky were less than two "standard in 2021" lanes. West of the Mississippi, I don't remember any; so if there were a few miles like that, they didn't stick in my memory.




It's possible the picture you lifted from the ACA site was posted at 70 mph, but most of what I remember was lower. Maybe we're not talking about just the speed limit, though? When I think of a long drive, greater than four hours or so, I'm thinking about high speed limits, limited access, no stop signs or traffic lights, and very large radius turns. I only remember the 10 miles of I-80 west of Rawlins, WY that fits that description, but that stretch had hu-u-uge shoulders!


I'll agree with you on few shoulders. However, you seem to imply shoulders are necessary for safe bicycling. That's not my experience. Much more important than the presence or absence of shoulders are traffic volumes and sight lines. The ACA routes I've ridden do well by those metrics.


Reading your posts remind me of a supported tour I rode; despite written descriptions on the web site, in the tour booklet, and in the pre-ride brief to the effect of "You will be riding public roads with other traffic," there were more than a few people shocked -- shocked! I say -- to find out we were riding on paved public roads, and that the roads hadn't been closed for the day for a bike ride.


Perhaps you can explain what you want in a touring route? Are you expecting to find an off-road route without any motorized traffic? I understand you can put together a few week long rides like that, but not across the U.S.A. Are you willing to ride 4,000 miles on dirt roads to do it (not that I'm aware of any such routes in existence)? Do you want to ride only roads with 30 mph speed limits? Heck, even the dirt back roads of Kansas have trucks pushing 55.


I'll usually let posts like yours slide without responding to them. But I'm saddened by the effort some people seem to be making to dismantle the few existing east-west routes across the U.S. because they don't fit some arbitrary definition of ideal. Yes, I say dismantle, like the push to "replace" the Affordable Care Act by repealing it without a replacement in place. There are no complete off-road routes across the country. Even the north-south Continental Divide Route spends some miles on paved public roads. I'm not thrilled with the focus Adventure Cycling has put into re-routing in response to whiners, I disagree with some of their short-sighted political stands, and I sometimes think they could do better routing. But their routes deserve better than your disapprobation.

I rarely respond to people who bring their political positions into discussions.


I meant a single lane in each direction, this is the definition as I understand it or at least Wiki agrees. The route is entirely single lane until you pass the Sinclair oil refinery in Wyoming whereafter eastbound you ride on I-80 shoulder for around an hour before going South thru Colorado over the mostly hellacious road I have ever ridden. I do not recall any 4 lane highways in Colorado.


Your experience is not recent.


Many of the small shoulders are mostly or completely made unrideable due to a certain administration's decision to plaster rumble strips over them. I am sure you did not have the same experience in 2008 as I had in 2016.


The route is not owned by ACA. The cuesheet from Astoria to Pueblo is like one sheet. It isn't a complicated route until you get to Kentucky, then it is signposted "76"


The picture that I linked is probably Route 287 in Wyoming, it is about 200 miles of that.


Lots of riders have been killed or hit on these 60-80 mph roads when forced to ride off the shoulder. I was hit.


I would expect to ACA to reroute when a one lane road (two lanes in your definition) road is 60-80 mph and the shoulder has been obliterated with a 2-3 foot rumble strip. There are areas where there is no alternative. Kansas isn't one of them, they could re-route. 287 from Dubois to the Sinclair refinery is one of them but that stretch really is pretty decent.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Single...s%20can%20pass).
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