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Old 06-09-21, 09:39 AM
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To paint or not to paint?

I have gotten everything off of the frame. The seat post came out smooth. It looks like the previous owner applied some anti-seize compound (though I am wondering why he didn't do that with the !@#$%^& fork.) I am thinking about taking it down to bare metal and re-painting it. I'll be doing it myself. It looks much better now that its been cleaned up. Thoughts, opinions, criticism.

PS: I know I am becoming the king of junk (some think they're junk, but I disagree.)
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I like the idea of a repaint, and Iím thinking about doing it to one of my frames.The results Iíve seen from this stuff have been great: https://spraybike.us/
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is really worth the time to repaint a junk????
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I am assuming it is a DIY paintjob. Aluminum can sometimes be difficult to paint if you take it to bare metal. You will need a good aluminum specific primer. I would be inclined to scuff the existing paint and feather and chips and paint over the existing paint. Try a small out of the way spot first to ensure the new paint does not react negatively with the old paint.

Actually it does not look that bad as is, but I can see your desire to paint as I hate labels like that 6061 Aluminum labels on the stays
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Originally Posted by grizzly907la View Post
I have gotten everything off of the frame. The seat post came out smooth. It looks like the previous owner applied some anti-seize compound (though I am wondering why he didn't do that with the !@#$%^& fork.) I am thinking about taking it down to bare metal and re-painting it. I'll be doing it myself. It looks much better now that its been cleaned up. Thoughts, opinions, criticism.

PS: I know I am becoming the king of junk (some think they're junk, but I disagree.)
I've done this a number of times and now achieve results that rival the best professional paint jobs I've seen (not to toot my horn too much! ). It does take practice. You'll probably wreck the first frame (or two) you try. Great thing is you can always start over My advice is to use a system all from the same vendor - so, same vendor for prime/paint/clear. Personally I only use duplicolor which is an acrylic laquer. Nothing beats a properly done laquer finish IMO.

My process is:
1) take frame for sandblasting
2) thin coat of etching primer on bare metal. let 'flash off' for an hour or so (depending on conditions).
3) apply couple coats of sandable primer. depending on how well the primer went on ill let it flash off for a couple hours then start painting. if there are imperfections in the primer I'll let it dry 24 hours then do a light wet sand.
4) apply laquer. this takes practice. i'll typically apply 9-10 coats building up progressively thicker. sometimes more.
5) let laquer fully cure for ~10 days.
6) wet sand/polish.
7) use the best clear coat you're comfortable using. really like Duplicolor 1K which is urethane based. If you know what you're doing the best clear is a 2K but highly toxic.
8) after clear has fully cured wet sand/polish (if necessary often is not).
9) enjoy!
Tip: ALWAYS follow directions from manufacturer on how/when to use their system.

Takes practice, time and patience but it's something I really enjoy. Once you get good at it you can achieve pro level finishes. Good luck!

NOTE - I only paint steel frames. Process, as mentioned above, has some caveats for aluminum.
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Looks classy
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White bikes are the slowest.
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Originally Posted by aclinjury View Post
is really worth the time to repaint a junk????
One mans junk is another mans treasure. Plus I can use it as a beta test because I have some vintage steel frames I want to build up, and they do need to be repainted.
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Originally Posted by Bill in VA View Post
I am assuming it is a DIY paintjob. Aluminum can sometimes be difficult to paint if you take it to bare metal. You will need a good aluminum specific primer. I would be inclined to scuff the existing paint and feather and chips and paint over the existing paint. Try a small out of the way spot first to ensure the new paint does not react negatively with the old paint.

Actually it does not look that bad as is, but I can see your desire to paint as I hate labels like that 6061 Aluminum labels on the stays
I could take the labels off via a heat gun. The Welligo one looks a little cheesy...the other ones don't really bother me.
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Originally Posted by indyfabz View Post
White bikes are the slowest.
What if I paint it Cobalt blue?
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Old 06-09-21, 06:09 PM
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Yesterday I finished the last clear coat of an '89 Fuji Ace that I stripped to bare metal and rattle can spray painted it, probably the only one I will do. It is certainly nowhere near being a really well done paint job, but it looks pretty good. It is a lot of work and a lot of time. Not hard work per se, but tedious and messy. I did not want a high gloss, flashy finish, but more of a satin with just a bit of sheen. I am going to let it set for 10 to 14 days before I start doing any re-building on it. Also, I am still toying with the idea of some kind of decals, not Fuji Ace, but something like chevrons, shapes characters, etc.

I am pretty sure if I was to do another bike, I would get it powder coated. I have had that done to two framesets, and, IMO, it is a cost effective, work saving, durable option with thousands of color tones to choose from.





I need to do some light, wet sanding on it, and then polish it up.
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Originally Posted by grizzly907la View Post
What if I paint it Cobalt blue?
Blue is the second slowest color, and isnít cobalt toxic?
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The paint alone would be worth more than the frame. I personally wouldn't waste the time. Unless the paint is exceptional damaged I wouldn't bother and even then I wouldn't bother unless you have free paint and free time.

Also NEVER CLAMP A BIKE BY THE TUBES!!!!!!! Seatposts are designed to be clamped the tubes on a frame are not.
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Originally Posted by indyfabz View Post
Blue is the second slowest color, and isnít cobalt toxic?
Ok I give up...what's the fastest color?
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Originally Posted by delbiker1 View Post
Yesterday I finished the last clear coat of an '89 Fuji Ace that I stripped to bare metal and rattle can spray painted it, probably the only one I will do. It is certainly nowhere near being a really well done paint job, but it looks pretty good. It is a lot of work and a lot of time. Not hard work per se, but tedious and messy. I did not want a high gloss, flashy finish, but more of a satin with just a bit of sheen. I am going to let it set for 10 to 14 days before I start doing any re-building on it. Also, I am still toying with the idea of some kind of decals, not Fuji Ace, but something like chevrons, shapes characters, etc.

I am pretty sure if I was to do another bike, I would get it powder coated. I have had that done to two framesets, and, IMO, it is a cost effective, work saving, durable option with thousands of color tones to choose from.





I need to do some light, wet sanding on it, and then polish it up.
One of my obstacles is find a stand or something to hang it off, so I can paint it.
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OP - Paint or not???

Who's got time to paint a bike during ridding weather? But, if its all apart ya may as well, cause if ya don't ya probably wont till its all apart again...
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The frame looks pretty nice as is, IMO
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Originally Posted by aclinjury View Post
is really worth the time to repaint a junk????
If you think a 6061 aluminum race frame is junk then you're definitely the new generation. And that Bikes Direct Windsor is probably a rebadged Specialized or something. Not cool to bash a man's bike. Unless it's a fixed gear with no brakes, green chain and pink rims.

I'd remove the aftermarket decals and go over the paint with some polishing compound. That will get rid of most of the little imperfections and black marks and bring the white back to life. Then touch up paint where needed and wax it. It's not in such bad condition where it needs to be painted, especially a cheap home paint job which will most likely peel pretty quickly.
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Originally Posted by aclinjury View Post
is really worth the time to repaint a junk????

If it's worth riding, nothing wrong with making it look good. And that's a one question mark question at best. It's op's time to allocate.
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If you think a 6061 aluminum race frame is junk then you're definitely the new generation. And that Bikes Direct Windsor is probably a rebadged Specialized or something. Not cool to bash a man's bike. Unless it's a fixed gear with no brakes, green chain and pink rims.

I'd remove the aftermarket decals and go over the paint with some polishing compound. That will get rid of most of the little imperfections and black marks and bring the white back to life. Then touch up paint where needed and wax it. It's not in such bad condition where it needs to be painted, especially a cheap home paint job which will most likely peel pretty quickly.

I'd refrain from trash talking the green chain and pink rims, but no brakes is always fair game.
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Originally Posted by grizzly907la View Post
One mans junk is another mans treasure. Plus I can use it as a beta test because I have some vintage steel frames I want to build up, and they do need to be repainted.

I know nothing about paint, but is an aluminum frame a good beta test for a steel frame?
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Originally Posted by grizzly907la View Post
Ok I give up...what's the fastest color?
Duh. Pink.
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Originally Posted by livedarklions View Post
I know nothing about paint, but is an aluminum frame a good beta test for a steel frame?
I am a long way from being an truly experienced painter. However, in my limited experience, other than what you prime with, and how you prime, the rest of the process is the same.
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That Windsor frame looks fine to me as is. I'd simply use rubbing compound to clean up the scuffs and a bit of white touch up and wax and you're done.

I have painted two frames in the last couple of years. Each time it was a substantial amount of work and the results were only barely up to my own rather low standards. From 10 feet away, each looks terrific. From one foot, there are flaws due to my not knowing jack squat about applying paint. I'm good at a few things, but painting definitely isn't one of them.
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Originally Posted by indyfabz View Post
Duh. Pink.
No! Red!

Aaaaaaahhhhh!!
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