Go Back  Bike Forums > Bike Forums > General Cycling Discussion
Reload this Page >

Race across America

Notices
General Cycling Discussion Have a cycling related question or comment that doesn't fit in one of the other specialty forums? Drop on in and post in here! When possible, please select the forum above that most fits your post!

Race across America

Old 07-01-21, 06:44 AM
  #26  
indyfabz
Senior Member
 
indyfabz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Posts: 31,051
Mentioned: 199 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
Quoted: 13752 Post(s)
Liked 6,662 Times in 3,370 Posts
Originally Posted by Koyote View Post
A presumption which is reinforced by the context and timing of his first post in the thread, and also his juvenile username.
Added him to my ignore list not long after he joined. For obvious reasons.
indyfabz is offline  
Likes For indyfabz:
Old 07-01-21, 07:09 AM
  #27  
jamesdak 
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Utah
Posts: 6,883

Bikes: Paletti,De Rosa Neo Pro,Pinarello Monviso,Duell Vienna,Giordana XL Super(2)Lemond Maillot Juane (2) & custom & Versailles,PDG Paramount,Serotta CSI,Fuji Opus III,Davidson Impulse,Pashley Guv'nor,Evans,Fishlips,Jan De Reus,Prologue TT,Y-Foil,Softride

Mentioned: 122 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1711 Post(s)
Liked 1,264 Times in 633 Posts
First off, big congrats to Leah. She's achieved something most of us wouldn't even attempt.

On a side note, I happen to have a bike that was owned by 3 time RAAM winner Bob Fourney. It wasn't one of his RAAM bikes but one he had custom made to race in Paris-Brest-Paris in the mid 90's. Quite a sweet ride even today.

It's about 1/2 longer in the top tube than even my Lemonds, with lot's of tire clearance, light Columbus EL-OS tubing, styles lugs, and a sweet paint job. I rebuilt it with a nice Dura Ace 9 speed setup and use it as one of my comfortable but fast long distance riders.


Framebuilder named Wayne Evans in Denver made this.



Gotta love the headbadge!
__________________
Steel is real...and comfy.
jamesdak is offline  
Old 07-01-21, 07:18 AM
  #28  
Koyote
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2017
Posts: 4,003
Mentioned: 32 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 3892 Post(s)
Liked 5,156 Times in 2,277 Posts
Originally Posted by jamesdak View Post
Gotta love the headbadge!
Kokopelli!

That is a seriously pretty bike.
Koyote is online now  
Old 07-01-21, 08:30 AM
  #29  
AlmostTrick
Tortoise Wins by a Hare!
 
AlmostTrick's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Looney Tunes, IL
Posts: 7,397

Bikes: Wabi Special FG, Raleigh Roper, Nashbar AL-1, Miyata One Hundred, '70 Schwinn Lemonator and More!!

Mentioned: 21 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1546 Post(s)
Liked 919 Times in 496 Posts
Outstanding achievement, it's so nice to see a woman beat the men.

I had a neighbor who was crew chief for his Dad's 4x mixed relay team a few years back. Dad was riding RAAM at 80 years old! Amazing.
AlmostTrick is offline  
Old 07-01-21, 09:51 AM
  #30  
Pop N Wood
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2020
Location: Maryland
Posts: 1,163

Bikes: 1982 Bianchi Sport SX, Rayleigh Tamland 1, Rans V-Rex recumbent, Fuji MTB, 80's Cannondale MTB with BBSHD ebike motor

Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 552 Post(s)
Liked 432 Times in 285 Posts
Originally Posted by livedarklions View Post
Probably because we're finding it hard to believe that your "curiosity" about this is unrelated to the fact that it was won by a woman.
​​​​​
Yikes. Project much?

Maybe a bit of a projection on my part, but some of you need to work on your views of women. Not all of them are these frail creatures that need you to protect them from imagined internet slights. Especially one who just rode a bike cross country in 11 days.

This thread has gone off the rails, but you are right, I'm not all that interested in bike races in general. Should probably keep off hand comments to topics of interest.
Pop N Wood is offline  
Old 07-01-21, 10:01 AM
  #31  
shelbyfv 
Senior Member
 
shelbyfv's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: TN
Posts: 9,194
Mentioned: 32 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2586 Post(s)
Liked 2,880 Times in 1,529 Posts
Originally Posted by Pop N Wood View Post
Should probably keep off hand comments to topics of interest.
Keep it in P&R, everyone will be happier.
shelbyfv is online now  
Likes For shelbyfv:
Old 07-01-21, 10:05 AM
  #32  
kahn
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: northWET washington
Posts: 730
Mentioned: 2 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 196 Post(s)
Liked 174 Times in 134 Posts
Originally Posted by Koyote View Post
Kokopelli!

That is a seriously pretty bike.
He stands tooting away above my kitchen door.

And it really is a pretty bike.
kahn is offline  
Old 07-01-21, 11:29 AM
  #33  
tomato coupe
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Posts: 2,361

Bikes: Colnago, Van Dessel, Factor, Cervelo, Ritchey

Mentioned: 3 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1442 Post(s)
Liked 2,157 Times in 894 Posts
I think it's great that the race was won by a woman, but I'm also curious why everyone was significantly slower this year. It's got nothing to do who won the race or what their gender is. Really windy? Got it. Record high temperatures? Ouch, that must have sucked. Changed the route? Good to know. New mandated sleep rules to increase safety? Understandable.
tomato coupe is offline  
Likes For tomato coupe:
Old 07-01-21, 12:03 PM
  #34  
Sy Reene
Advocatus Diaboli
 
Sy Reene's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: Wherever I am
Posts: 7,346

Bikes: Merlin Cyrene, Nashbar steel CX

Mentioned: 11 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
Quoted: 3922 Post(s)
Liked 966 Times in 646 Posts
Originally Posted by tomato coupe View Post
I think it's great that the race was won by a woman, but I'm also curious why everyone was significantly slower this year. It's got nothing to do who won the race or what their gender is. Really windy? Got it. Record high temperatures? Ouch, that must have sucked. Changed the route? Good to know. New mandated sleep rules to increase safety? Understandable.
I'm not sure I'm looking at this correctly, as it seems somewhat weird, but this seems to say that the entire race only had 12 entrants, only 2 under the age of 50, and of the 12, only 3 people finished. https://www.raamrace.org/results
Sy Reene is offline  
Old 07-01-21, 12:10 PM
  #35  
mstateglfr 
Sunshine
 
mstateglfr's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2014
Location: Des Moines, IA
Posts: 13,154

Bikes: '18 class built steel roadbike, '19 Fairlight Secan, '88 Schwinn Premis , Black Mountain Cycles Monstercross V4, '89 Novara Trionfo

Mentioned: 105 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 6115 Post(s)
Liked 3,258 Times in 1,880 Posts
Originally Posted by tomato coupe View Post
I think it's great that the race was won by a woman, but I'm also curious why everyone was significantly slower this year. It's got nothing to do who won the race or what their gender is. Really windy? Got it. Record high temperatures? Ouch, that must have sucked. Changed the route? Good to know. New mandated sleep rules to increase safety? Understandable.
Yeah, lost in all the bickering in this thread is the fact that the entire race was slower this year. I too saw that and wondered why. The gender of riders didnt even cross my mind- just curious why it was slower. The average speed was slower for the winner, so it was therefore slower for all.
Rain? Heat? Wind? Everyone rode Gatorskins?
And the reverse is true- when I see a race that is faster than usual, I also wonder what allowed for better times.
mstateglfr is offline  
Old 07-01-21, 12:12 PM
  #36  
livedarklions
Racerboyz' b'crat
 
livedarklions's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2018
Location: New England
Posts: 9,816

Bikes: Serotta Atlanta; 1994 Specialized Allez Pro; Giant OCR A1; SOMA Double Cross Disc

Mentioned: 53 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 5077 Post(s)
Liked 4,375 Times in 2,462 Posts
Originally Posted by Pop N Wood View Post
Yikes. Project much?

Maybe a bit of a projection on my part, but some of you need to work on your views of women. Not all of them are these frail creatures that need you to protect them from imagined internet slights. Especially one who just rode a bike cross country in 11 days.

This thread has gone off the rails, but you are right, I'm not all that interested in bike races in general. Should probably keep off hand comments to topics of interest.
OK, so you were never much interested in this event before, but SOMETHING triggered you to investigate where it was on the spectrum of average speeds? Hmmmmmm, I wonder what that could be..........

Nice try with the "projection" deflection.
livedarklions is online now  
Likes For livedarklions:
Old 07-01-21, 12:36 PM
  #37  
livedarklions
Racerboyz' b'crat
 
livedarklions's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2018
Location: New England
Posts: 9,816

Bikes: Serotta Atlanta; 1994 Specialized Allez Pro; Giant OCR A1; SOMA Double Cross Disc

Mentioned: 53 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 5077 Post(s)
Liked 4,375 Times in 2,462 Posts
Originally Posted by Sy Reene View Post
I'm not sure I'm looking at this correctly, as it seems somewhat weird, but this seems to say that the entire race only had 12 entrants, only 2 under the age of 50, and of the 12, only 3 people finished. https://www.raamrace.org/results

I guess, but this may have been an especially hard year to get ready for this with everything shutting down periodically. To me that makes her accomplishment even more impressive. That and she beat the men's winner by 17+ hours.
livedarklions is online now  
Old 07-01-21, 12:48 PM
  #38  
tomato coupe
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Posts: 2,361

Bikes: Colnago, Van Dessel, Factor, Cervelo, Ritchey

Mentioned: 3 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1442 Post(s)
Liked 2,157 Times in 894 Posts
Originally Posted by Sy Reene View Post
I'm not sure I'm looking at this correctly, as it seems somewhat weird, but this seems to say that the entire race only had 12 entrants, only 2 under the age of 50, and of the 12, only 3 people finished. https://www.raamrace.org/results
Yeah, looks like the numbers were way down.

The only other solo woman rider DNFed with 100 miles left -- that had to be a tough decision.
tomato coupe is offline  
Old 07-01-21, 12:56 PM
  #39  
livedarklions
Racerboyz' b'crat
 
livedarklions's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2018
Location: New England
Posts: 9,816

Bikes: Serotta Atlanta; 1994 Specialized Allez Pro; Giant OCR A1; SOMA Double Cross Disc

Mentioned: 53 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 5077 Post(s)
Liked 4,375 Times in 2,462 Posts
Originally Posted by tomato coupe View Post
Yeah, looks like the numbers were way down.

The only other solo woman rider DNFed with 100 miles left -- that had to be a tough decision.

She didn't make the cutoff, not her decision.

That had to hurt bad.
livedarklions is online now  
Old 07-01-21, 06:45 PM
  #40  
downtube42
Senior Member
 
downtube42's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Portland, OR
Posts: 2,833

Bikes: Soma Fog Cutter, Volae Team, Priority Eight (for sale), Nimbus MUni, Trek Roscoe 6, Focus Mares.

Mentioned: 8 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 464 Post(s)
Liked 977 Times in 494 Posts
Originally Posted by mstateglfr View Post
Yeah, lost in all the bickering in this thread is the fact that the entire race was slower this year. I too saw that and wondered why. The gender of riders didnt even cross my mind- just curious why it was slower. The average speed was slower for the winner, so it was therefore slower for all.
Rain? Heat? Wind? Everyone rode Gatorskins?
And the reverse is true- when I see a race that is faster than usual, I also wonder what allowed for better times.
Both Haldeman and Robič had two winning years where their times were different by almost 24 hours. Haldeman's were consecutive years, the 2nd being slower. Weather is a huge difference.

I've only done 24 hour races and brevets up to 1500k; my limited experience is that small things can make a huge difference. When you're close to your mental and physical limits, it doesn't take much for things to go bad. Heat and wind, to me, are the morale killers.
downtube42 is offline  
Old 07-01-21, 07:35 PM
  #41  
Pop N Wood
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2020
Location: Maryland
Posts: 1,163

Bikes: 1982 Bianchi Sport SX, Rayleigh Tamland 1, Rans V-Rex recumbent, Fuji MTB, 80's Cannondale MTB with BBSHD ebike motor

Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 552 Post(s)
Liked 432 Times in 285 Posts
Originally Posted by mstateglfr View Post
Yeah, lost in all the bickering in this thread is the fact that the entire race was slower this year. I too saw that and wondered why. The gender of riders didnt even cross my mind- just curious why it was slower. The average speed was slower for the winner, so it was therefore slower for all.
Rain? Heat? Wind? Everyone rode Gatorskins?
And the reverse is true- when I see a race that is faster than usual, I also wonder what allowed for better times.
I was wondering a lot of the same things. The one news article I did find mentioned a lean field. If it was really 12 entrants than lean is an understatement.

Maybe the uncertainty with covid caused people to think the race wouldn't happen so no one trained. Also wonder if they required riders to be vaccinated and if that caused people to not show up.
Pop N Wood is offline  
Old 07-01-21, 09:17 PM
  #42  
scott967
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: Oahu, HI
Posts: 1,308

Bikes: 89 Paramount OS 84 Fuji Touring Series III New! 2013 Focus Izalco Ergoride

Mentioned: 2 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 256 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 47 Times in 37 Posts
Used to live in Annapolis, but that was before RAAM ended there. I think it would be kind of cool to see the finishers, but like sailing you don't know when day or night it's going to be. I finished my share of rides at city dock, but that's more of the Sunday afternoon variety, when you can get a milk shake and sit and watch the boats cycle through Ego Alley.

scott s.
.
scott967 is offline  
Old 07-01-21, 10:09 PM
  #43  
OldRailfan
Old enough, hmmm?
 
OldRailfan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2021
Location: Coldstream, BC Canada
Posts: 167

Bikes: DeVinci, Bianchi, Nishiki, RBSM Mud Adder

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 37 Post(s)
Liked 49 Times in 37 Posts

Yep, our local girl did well.
But the coverage in the local paper was .... meh.

Last edited by OldRailfan; 07-01-21 at 10:13 PM.
OldRailfan is offline  
Old 07-02-21, 04:58 AM
  #44  
shelbyfv 
Senior Member
 
shelbyfv's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: TN
Posts: 9,194
Mentioned: 32 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2586 Post(s)
Liked 2,880 Times in 1,529 Posts
Originally Posted by Pop N Wood View Post
Also wonder if they required riders to be vaccinated and if that caused people to not show up.
I'm sure that's it....
shelbyfv is online now  
Likes For shelbyfv:
Old 07-02-21, 05:16 AM
  #45  
livedarklions
Racerboyz' b'crat
 
livedarklions's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2018
Location: New England
Posts: 9,816

Bikes: Serotta Atlanta; 1994 Specialized Allez Pro; Giant OCR A1; SOMA Double Cross Disc

Mentioned: 53 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 5077 Post(s)
Liked 4,375 Times in 2,462 Posts
Originally Posted by Pop N Wood View Post
Also wonder if they required riders to be vaccinated and if that caused people to not show up.
So, your theory is they narrowed the field by screening out complete idiots who refuse vaccination?
livedarklions is online now  
Likes For livedarklions:
Old 07-02-21, 05:20 AM
  #46  
GhostRider62
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2021
Posts: 867
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 534 Post(s)
Liked 406 Times in 251 Posts
There were three (3) Solo finishers. None of the top riders were in this year's race. That explains the record time. Sex has nothing to do with what I wrote there.
GhostRider62 is offline  
Old 07-02-21, 06:49 AM
  #47  
livedarklions
Racerboyz' b'crat
 
livedarklions's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2018
Location: New England
Posts: 9,816

Bikes: Serotta Atlanta; 1994 Specialized Allez Pro; Giant OCR A1; SOMA Double Cross Disc

Mentioned: 53 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 5077 Post(s)
Liked 4,375 Times in 2,462 Posts
Originally Posted by GhostRider62 View Post
There were three (3) Solo finishers. None of the top riders were in this year's race. That explains the record time. Sex has nothing to do with what I wrote there.
I think we got that the first 4 or so times somebody felt a need to point that out. Sex obviously has something to do with why you'd choose to point it out yet again.

You want us to believe that the sex of the winner has nothing to do with the fact that multiple posters have decided that the topic of this thread is explaining why this was a slow time for this race?

Are you also selling a bridge in Brooklyn?

Again, I'm sure it's extremely likely that the "top riders" were dissuaded from training for this event under the restrictions of the last year. I think the fact that she did so to win by more than 17 hours despite those obstacles makes the accomplishment more, not less, remarkable.
livedarklions is online now  
Likes For livedarklions:
Old 07-02-21, 07:19 AM
  #48  
indyfabz
Senior Member
 
indyfabz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Posts: 31,051
Mentioned: 199 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
Quoted: 13752 Post(s)
Liked 6,662 Times in 3,370 Posts
Originally Posted by livedarklions View Post
I think the fact that she did so to win by more than 17 hours despite those obstacles makes the accomplishment more, not less, remarkable.
As long as she did not defile her femininity with lots of tattoos I am good with her performance.
indyfabz is offline  
Likes For indyfabz:
Old 07-02-21, 07:37 AM
  #49  
Rdmonster69
Shawn of the Dead
 
Join Date: Apr 2021
Posts: 195
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 112 Post(s)
Liked 170 Times in 73 Posts
Originally Posted by indyfabz View Post
As long as she did not defile her femininity with lots of tattoos I am good with her performance.
Hot chix with tattoos are still hot, Hot chix without tatoos are hot. Hot chix are hot. Bike riding is fun. The RAAM is cool. Now if someone could tell me why this years RAAM was slow we could end this thread. I like hot chix.

I have fully plumbed the major tenants of this thread.
Rdmonster69 is offline  
Old 07-02-21, 08:00 AM
  #50  
indyfabz
Senior Member
 
indyfabz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Posts: 31,051
Mentioned: 199 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
Quoted: 13752 Post(s)
Liked 6,662 Times in 3,370 Posts
Originally Posted by Rdmonster69 View Post
I have fully plumbed the major tenants of this thread.
I don't rent. I own.
indyfabz is offline  
Likes For indyfabz:

Thread Tools
Search this Thread

Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service - Do Not Sell My Personal Information -

Copyright 2021 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.