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Old 08-21-21, 03:36 PM
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Need tips on getting a new bike in 2021

So there's this supply issue going on. Problem is, I need a new road bike soon. Does anyone have tips as far as finding availability of bikes? Any hacks? I'm in Southern CA, USA. What I'm looking for is essentially a carbon fiber endurance bike, preferably with something like Shimano 105 on it.

Currently I've checked Canyon and a Trek store and it seems like most bikes my size are out-of-stock. I haven't checked every single local non-branded bike shop but I'm trying to stick with buying direct from a brand if possible, because it seems they have excellent customer support, service, and fitting practices. I'm thinking of a few different rough strategies and I'm wondering how others feel about them, and if you could offer others:

1.) Start calling/visiting every bike store around and try to find a bike in-stock that meets my earlier description, regardless of brand
2.) Try to order a bike and just wait 4-12 months or whatever
3.) Spend more money than I originally anticipated because it seems that the higher-end bikes tend to be more in-stock since many of the new COVID riders didn't want to spend 5k+ on a bike
4.) Just forget it and try again next year

The problem with 4 is that I ride pretty heavy and since i was already very fit from running and weight lifting (particularly I did a lot of heavy leg days), I am going on very long rides, and my current bike may be slightly too big for me, so it results in quite a bit of back pain, even after a fit. I did manage to do a test ride on a Small and Medium size bike recently, and both felt heaps more comfortable than my current Giant ML. The other issue has been road vibrations get to me after a while, hence wanting a carbon fiber bike.

What I've found is that not only are most bikes my size out-of-stock, but many times they don't even have an accurate estimate as to when they will be in stock, or it's something crazy like 2022.

Is there any other strategy I haven't thought of that could work? My main stipulation is that I really don't want to buy another bike that isn't the proper size for me and the ability of the shop staff to help put me in the proper size bike is very important. Budget I can wiggle on a bit. Right now, I'm feeling like money isn't even the problem, it seems it's almost impossible to get ahold of anything regardless.
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Originally Posted by Dr1v3n View Post
So there's this supply issue going on. Problem is, I need a new road bike soon. Does anyone have tips as far as finding availability of bikes? Any hacks? I'm in Southern CA, USA. What I'm looking for is essentially a carbon fiber endurance bike, preferably with something like Shimano 105 on it.

Currently I've checked Canyon and a Trek store and it seems like most bikes my size are out-of-stock. I haven't checked every single local non-branded bike shop but I'm trying to stick with buying direct from a brand if possible, because it seems they have excellent customer support, service, and fitting practices. I'm thinking of a few different rough strategies and I'm wondering how others feel about them, and if you could offer others:

1.) Start calling/visiting every bike store around and try to find a bike in-stock that meets my earlier description, regardless of brand
2.) Try to order a bike and just wait 4-12 months or whatever
3.) Spend more money than I originally anticipated because it seems that the higher-end bikes tend to be more in-stock since many of the new COVID riders didn't want to spend 5k+ on a bike
4.) Just forget it and try again next year

The problem with 4 is that I ride pretty heavy and since i was already very fit from running and weight lifting (particularly I did a lot of heavy leg days), I am going on very long rides, and my current bike may be slightly too big for me, so it results in quite a bit of back pain, even after a fit. I did manage to do a test ride on a Small and Medium size bike recently, and both felt heaps more comfortable than my current Giant ML. The other issue has been road vibrations get to me after a while, hence wanting a carbon fiber bike.

What I've found is that not only are most bikes my size out-of-stock, but many times they don't even have an accurate estimate as to when they will be in stock, or it's something crazy like 2022.

Is there any other strategy I haven't thought of that could work? My main stipulation is that I really don't want to buy another bike that isn't the proper size for me and the ability of the shop staff to help put me in the proper size bike is very important. Budget I can wiggle on a bit. Right now, I'm feeling like money isn't even the problem, it seems it's almost impossible to get ahold of anything regardless.
you’ll be paying a little more, but look at TheProsCloset. There’s financing available, 18 month buyback guarantee, and they replace anything that needs it before selling.
It’s kind of like when you buy “certified used” from a Chevy or GMC dealership kind of thing……
You are paying the prices, especially with the current inflation, but at least you get more peace of mind in the purchase than you otherwise would buying 2nd hand or refurbished
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Old 08-21-21, 06:20 PM
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This is easy. Order now, pick it up next March
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Originally Posted by Steve B. View Post
This is easy. Order now, pick it up next March
This is good, unless he wants to train during the winter indoors as well. Or ride outside when it’s not terrible out.
i would use TPC if needed, but another solution -
A lot of shops take small deposits, then you pay it off when they get the bike.
He could, if he so desired, put that deposit down and buy a cheaper bike off Craigslist or anywhere for winter usage and then just have a “project bike” for the future or a dedicated “trainer bike”

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Old 08-21-21, 07:14 PM
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If you want a new bike, the only strategy is to wait till shops get stock. You can go used and get something halfway decent IF you pretty much know what frame size fits you. I see a lot of decent carbon road bikes on my local Craigslist, but as I understand it, there's very little negotiating going on as every used bike sells. Plus call every shop in your area and determine inventory. You might get lucky and find something.
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Craigslist? I'm not buyin, but I do window shop...
I'm in SoCal, considered northern region of SoCal; and I see a lot of very nice bikes listed, in quite a range of sizes...
If you're lookin because you say your current bike is too large to get a proper fit - then a newer model used machine can provide a lot for a fraction of new cost.
Of course, everyone likes 'new', but that doesn;t always transcrib to 'better'.
So, yeah, used may mean some replacement, like tires, chain, maybe saddle. But that stuff is easy to do, and a saddle swap is often a given on a 'new' machine.
Never quite understood 'endurance' except that it was for someone who wants/needs a more upright posture... Usually done with a higher/longer head tube.
most all 'endurance' type posture adjustments can be done with parts, short of the race 'fashionable' very short head-tube models...
If an adjustment needs to be done for someone with a larger/heavier torso; that adjustment can often be done with some proper saddle/stem/bar adjustment.
and so on, and so on...
I know you asked about buying a 'new' bike - I'm giving the perspective of buying 'new' to you... possible light use from the original owner.
also... if you're ridin regular, like 4-5 days a wk (or even 3...) having just one wheel set is a total fail (for me...)
buy 'used and you can have the daily wheels which come with bike, afford a nice topend wheelset, and still have plenty of dosh left for other 'stuff' , like some fashion Bibs or Jersey, helmutt, etc...
Only Caveat - you gottta know what you're looking at, when you buy used - know what and how to check. For that, more than one set of eyes and more heads help sort out the details, if you're not sure of what you're looking at.
A good way, we learned many years ago, is to be in a group of crazy dedicated riders - club, team, regular training/riding and post-ride coffee groups.
I mean you have to really work to hide to avoid 'groups' in SoCal.... LOL! And SoCal is loaded with great bikes from others who are Jones-n to buy the next greatest.
There are a lot of nice machines on CL... some with very nice pricing...
But if you gotta have that downtube decal - I get it... I was there often myself... LOL!
Funny thing is, my 'most used' bike group has more machines bought 'used' than those I bought 'new' (yes, I have tooo many, but they all get ridden... LOL!)
I am a roadie, been one for way tooo long, absolutely love it, so the mtbs do sit a bit...
...just sayin...
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Old 08-22-21, 08:18 AM
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How many burpees can you do ?
A long bike ride is not a good workout since its too easy.
Do burpees and you'll be done working out in 10 minutes.
And its free.
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Originally Posted by CheGiantForLife View Post
How many burpees can you do ?
A long bike ride is not a good workout since its too easy.
Do burpees and you'll be done working out in 10 minutes.
And its free.
Disagree. I was a trainer for years, I have background knowledge in most arenas of fitness, be it aerobic training, anaerobic training, training for hypertrophy, training for power, etc.

Each program would be set up vastly different.

My reason for saying that is, burpees can be great for conditioning, but it’s a more explosive movement. You’re utilizing each muscle group, but not enough to really notice any benefit (except the HR increase for your cardio/zone training).

The thing is, I don’t know too many people who can do 10 minutes straight of burpees, nor do I believe it would be the most efficient way to utilize that exercise. To really maximize the efficiency of a burpee, you’re looking for a combination of time and explosiveness while maintaining the same form throughout. Ideally, you’d be adding a push-up and pull-up in, which will require a bit more rest time as the reps accumulate.

That’s perfect for finishing off a cardio routine in the gym, or to utilize in circuits for HIIT.

I’ve done all of the above and then some. I love burpees. But a longer, albeit still moderately intense, cycling bout will not only tax your legs to the point where, with adequate recovery, they have no choice but to get stronger (hence the muscular endurance)……..
but also the heart has to get used to functioning at a higher bpm threshold for longer periods, which provides the aerobic benefit and potential increase of Vo2 max.

In short, you can withstand the cardio tax, the lactic acid build up, and the glycogen depletion for longer, which directly translates to “time under tension”, a key for progression.

Again, I love burpees, but a statement that makes them seem “end all, be all” for benefits is false imo.
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Surprised to notice that Excel has a lot of Caledonias in stock. Maybe not the geo you're looking for, but at least they're in stock:

https://www.excelsports.com/cervelo-...c-bicycle-2022
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When I was searching I looked at Giant and Specialized - their websites list dealer locations for specific model and size you're looking at. You might find something close to you. I ended up only driving an hour to get mine.
Even if you don't find one nearby, you might find a shop willing to ship, but this might be hard since authorized dealers aren't allowed to ship to customers. I did find a specialized shop that said I could pay for it and have FedEx pick it up. Kind of a hassle, but depends on how desperate you are to get a bike now. I was also looking at Canyon but gave up on them because they kept changing the dates on availability.
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I know a guy that drove 6 hrs to South Florida to get his new bike. He basically started calling, found a shop with the frame he was looking for, not the specific groupset, but said he could always replace it later if he found he did not like it. Put a deposit on it over the phone, drove down the next day to get it. Suck situation, but this is what people are doing these days if they really want that bike.
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I can't speak to other manufacturers but Trek's online locator has been great for finding bikes and parts.
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I know a guy that drove 6 hrs to South Florida to get his new bike. He basically started calling, found a shop with the frame he was looking for, not the specific groupset, but said he could always replace it later if he found he did not like it. Put a deposit on it over the phone, drove down the next day to get it. Suck situation, but this is what people are doing these days if they really want that bike.
My LBS doesn't ordinarily do online sales, but a person found the exact bike she was looking for in their online stock, gave them a call, and then drove here from Colorado to pick it up! I can't remember the city, but I'm pretty sure it was one of the bigger cities along the Front Range, which would have been about a 12 hour drive.

Weird times...
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Originally Posted by ThermionicScott View Post
My LBS doesn't ordinarily do online sales, but a person found the exact bike she was looking for in their online stock, gave them a call, and then drove here from Colorado to pick it up! I can't remember the city, but I'm pretty sure it was one of the bigger cities along the Front Range, which would have been about a 12 hour drive.

Weird times...
What is it about the shop agreements with the manufacturers that a person has to be live in person in order to get the bike? I assume for this same situation, once the buyer arrived at the shop, they could have asked the shop to then ship it to them?
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Try Fezzari. They are direct to consumer like Canyon. Outstanding customer service and experience.
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I know someone who just went through this same exercise. He spent several months calling multiple LBS's, scouring Craigslist, etc and ended up buying a new bike from LBS that will (hopefully) arrive in Feb 2022.

You might get lucky and find something on CL, but even under normal circumstances buying a carbon road bike on CL is a risky endeavor. Personally I'd either order a new bike and hope for the best on delivery dates, or bite the bullet and pay a premium on Pro's Closet. At least with Pros Closet you'll know it's been inspected, everything works, and it (probably) isn't stolen. Also you don't have to worry about getting robbed at the point of sale.
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Even if you don't find one nearby, you might find a shop willing to ship, but this might be hard since authorized dealers aren't allowed to ship to customers.
Absolutely. It pays to ask around. I think every shop sets its own policy and it isn't always what the manufacturer wants. As an example, my Bianchi came unassembled in its original box, despite warnings printed on the box declaring it isn't allowed to be sold unassembled and must only be sold fully assembled by a qualified shop. But this was before the bike shortage so everything might be different now.
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What is it about the shop agreements with the manufacturers that a person has to be live in person in order to get the bike? I assume for this same situation, once the buyer arrived at the shop, they could have asked the shop to then ship it to them?
Huh?
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Call around and keep moving your search area out until its to far for you to travel. If that doesn't work, then you'll just have to order and wait.
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Huh?
Simply put, why can't you call an LBS that is showing as having the bike you want in stock, paying with a credit card over the phone and then having the shop ship it to you?
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Simply put, why can't you call an LBS that is showing as having the bike you want in stock, paying with a credit card over the phone and then having the shop ship it to you?
I think they just prefer not to. They're a small community-focused hands-on shop that likes to do in-person fitting and follow-up maintenance. I got the impression that the person offered to drive out to pick it up and they said "umm, sure!"
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I think they just prefer not to. They're a small community-focused hands-on shop that likes to do in-person fitting and follow-up maintenance. I got the impression that the person offered to drive out to pick it up and they said "umm, sure!"
Ok, though it was a more general question. As an example, Trekbikes shows a Domane SL7 in stock most closely to here in Baltimore MD which would be about a 7hr roundtrip drive. Given the craziness with supply etc, you'd think one could call that shop, arrange a purchase on the phone and have it shipped. But, I don't think Trek allows this -- nor, as far as I can tell, enable possibility of ship to another (much closer) authorized Trek store. This is a functionality pretty much most department stores can manage.
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Ok, though it was a more general question. As an example, Trekbikes shows a Domane SL7 in stock most closely to here in Baltimore MD which would be about a 7hr roundtrip drive. Given the craziness with supply etc, you'd think one could call that shop, arrange a purchase on the phone and have it shipped. But, I don't think Trek allows this -- nor, as far as I can tell, enable possibility of ship to another (much closer) authorized Trek store. This is a functionality pretty much most department stores can manage.
It wasn't a Trek bike, just a Salsa model that is apparently in very short supply in that particular size. You don't have to believe my story if you don't want to.
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I drove about 7 hours round trip for my new Trek. I didn't want to order and wait for something and luckily it was the exact item I wanted in my size. Didn't seem too large of a burden for me to drive out there and they were willing to hold the bike for a few days for me as well. Don't know why they wont ship from the website but imagine its an independently owned scenario and they can't dictate what the shops do ?
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It wasn't a Trek bike, just a Salsa model that is apparently in very short supply in that particular size. You don't have to believe my story if you don't want to.
I completely believe you. Again, I'm just wondering in this day and age of manufacturers having national networks of authorized retailers or even company owned stores, combined with online ability to check store inventories, why there aren't easier paths to finding and having product shipped, if not to home, then to nearby other authorized retailers. Seems a bit arcane and antiquated of a system.
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