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tomato coupe 10-01-21 01:37 PM


Originally Posted by Harold74 (Post 22252969)
When I look at the graphs, I see a rider deliberately holding cadence to roughly constant, preferred values which forces power to vary linearly in relation to crank torque.

It suggests that being in the right cadence zone has a larger impact on power generation than does crank torque.

Your second sentence totally contradicts the first.

Harold74 10-01-21 01:50 PM


Originally Posted by tomato coupe (Post 22253097)
Your second sentence totally contradicts the first.

I disagree. The second point speaks to the utility of correlation in the context being discussed. The third point speaks to things that may or may not be inferred by the trend of the graphs. The trend exhibited by a data set and that data set's coefficient of correlation or separate things with different potential uses.

tomato coupe 10-01-21 01:57 PM


Originally Posted by Harold74 (Post 22253113)
I disagree. The second point speaks to the utility of correlation in the context being discussed. The third point speaks to things that may or may not be inferred by the trend of the graphs. The trend exhibited by a data set and and that data set's coefficient of correlation or separate things with different potential uses.

Your discussion of correlation is off target and meaningless. If power is equal to torque multiplied by angular velocity (i.e. RPM), and the angular velocity (RPM) is held constant, then all variation in the power are due to variation of the torque. This is as simple as it gets.

Harold74 10-01-21 02:11 PM


Originally Posted by tomato coupe (Post 22253121)
Your discussion of correlation is off target and meaningless.

Well, how fine of you to inform me of that in such a considerate manner.


Originally Posted by tomato coupe (Post 22253121)
If power is equal to torque multiplied by angular velocity (i.e. RPM), and the angular velocity (RPM) is held constant, then all variation in the power are due to variation of the torque. This is as simple as it gets.

Yes, so simple in fact that it's precisely what I said myself in my first point.


Originally Posted by Harold74 (Post 22252969)
When I look at the graphs, I see a rider deliberately holding cadence to roughly constant, preferred values which forces power to vary linearly in relation to crank torque.

Somehow that point is worthwhile for you to make but off target and meaningless for me?

tomato coupe 10-01-21 02:29 PM


Originally Posted by Harold74 (Post 22253146)
Yes, so simple in fact that it's precisely what I said myself in my first point.

Yes you did get it right in your first point. But, you totally contradicted it later, which was my point.

Harold74 10-01-21 03:01 PM


Originally Posted by tomato coupe (Post 22253167)
Sorry. How about irrelevant to the point, instead of off target and meaningless?

Much better, thank you.


Originally Posted by tomato coupe (Post 22253167)
Yes you did get it right in your first point. But, you totally contradicted it later, which was my point.

Can you elaborate at all on how you see my second point contradicting my first? Where is this contradiction that you speak of? So far, all that you seem to have done is:

a) Indicate that you feel a contradiction exists and;

b) Reiterate my point #1.


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